Paloma wrote:3.) ... But R4 here isnt actually supported IMO and must play with the bugs it brought into it from the beginning. ...
when Vas the bugs not removed, so is
not Martins fault.
so must r4 let beat up
btw. The bugs do not affect the strength.
Of course it is.
Please look for yourself.
Say Martin would play the same tornament in the same facility
but then he would do it all for his own fun
THEN of course he would have no criticism at all.
But we have a different design. The event show match, call it what you prefer, is transmitted from Martin to the famous website ChessBomb who transmit normally Wch matches and something like Tata where the World elite players were playing.
More, Martin is also transmitting his tournament to Suzy Polgar who has one of the biggest info shops on the internet (for regular chess so to speak) and she is now presenting the Martin event exactly like she did it for the Tata.
Well, at such a moment it should be allowed to ask some questions about fairness and I answer that, no, it's not fair, if all other entries get support from their home families except Rybka. But Rybka is the undoubtably strongest engine on the planet.
Why taking Rybka at all? Answer for me is clear: R4 might be the best but not so for Martin. That is the basic message and the results are proving it in absolute clarity.
Was it announced in time that Martin held this event right now?
In science there is a clean principle of methods.
Someone makes a claim, explains how he will test it and then starts the description of the details. So that critics have all chances to step in.
Only if everything was kosher, then a result or a theory could be trusted. Otherwise commentary would be it's all just artefacts.
Of course Martin is no scientist and must not care about scientifical design but why his tournament gets such a publicity? It were only justified in a logical sense if at lease the conditions for all players would be comparable. This isnt the case for Rybka.
Let me show you the background. As far as I had understood the situation with the best program and all the possible copy versions and recompilations, the bugs are a minimum of security for the author of the top program. He found the best solution in reserving his best version for the internet offer with best hardware of course.
Since there are people in our scene who misbehave and publish every secret for free, it's a logical defense if the best business author keeps something for himself and that functions only if he leaves something imperfect in his program because that leaves a waterprint like signature in every illegal copy.
The Americans know the old saying Fool me once etc. Ignoring the criminal misbehavior in our community is a fatal mistake. If the personal creativity of our best team captains is taken under attack, time of naive approaches has gone. Some precaution must be found.
Martin for one behaves as if he never even heard of the new development. If he had, he could not have planned a worldwide transmission of a play in his private room with a not supported engine of the best program on the planet.
Martin is absolutely allowed to do what he wants, but it must also be allowed to point out the weaknesses of his approach and therefore diagnosing his event as meaningless.
I was absent for almost 2 years and therefore
I missed the debates about the end of the Hippos and then the rise of Houdini. Could someone please give me the links for a certainly issue of debates about the legal problems of all that? Because I prefer to base my judgement on expert opinions as a lay in CC tech. Thanks and all the best to all members.
