"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Ted Summers
From this position posted by Robert Flesher
[d]1r3rk1/3bbppp/1qn2P2/p2pP1P1/3P4/2PB1N2/6K1/qNBQ1R2 w - - 0 21 21. Bxh7+ Kxh7 22. Rh1+ Kg8 23. Rh8+ Kxh8 24. Qh1+ Kg8 25. g6!!
Winning! amazing test position!
we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bbpp1/1qn2PP1/p2pP3/3P4/2P2N2/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 25
you posted: Yes, that's the win and it's forced mate. 25..fg 26. Ng5! and after tossing pieces Black is mated.
after 25..fg 26. Ng5! we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bb1p1/1qn2Pp1/p2pP1N1/3P4/2P5/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 26
and now only 26...Qbb2! avoid mate! 27.Bxb2 Qxb2+ 28.Kg3 Qf2+! 29.Kxf2 Rxf6+ 30.exf6 Bxf6 31.Qd5+ +6.xx for white
second best move (26...Bh3+) leads after 27.Qxh3 to mate in 8 for white.
Paloma wrote:From this position posted by Robert Flesher
[d]1r3rk1/3bbppp/1qn2P2/p2pP1P1/3P4/2PB1N2/6K1/qNBQ1R2 w - - 0 21 21. Bxh7+ Kxh7 22. Rh1+ Kg8 23. Rh8+ Kxh8 24. Qh1+ Kg8 25. g6!!
Winning! amazing test position!
we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bbpp1/1qn2PP1/p2pP3/3P4/2P2N2/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 25
you posted: Yes, that's the win and it's forced mate. 25..fg 26. Ng5! and after tossing pieces Black is mated.
after 25..fg 26. Ng5! we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bb1p1/1qn2Pp1/p2pP1N1/3P4/2P5/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 26
and now only 26...Qbb2! avoid mate! 27.Bxb2 Qxb2+ 28.Kg3 Qf2+! 29.Kxf2 Rxf6+ 30.exf6 Bxf6 31.Qd5+ +6.xx for white
second best move (26...Bh3+) leads after 27.Qxh3 to mate in 8 for white.
Try not capturing with the Bishop. Try Nd2 instead.
Paloma wrote:From this position posted by Robert Flesher
[d]1r3rk1/3bbppp/1qn2P2/p2pP1P1/3P4/2PB1N2/6K1/qNBQ1R2 w - - 0 21 21. Bxh7+ Kxh7 22. Rh1+ Kg8 23. Rh8+ Kxh8 24. Qh1+ Kg8 25. g6!!
Winning! amazing test position!
we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bbpp1/1qn2PP1/p2pP3/3P4/2P2N2/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 25
you posted: Yes, that's the win and it's forced mate. 25..fg 26. Ng5! and after tossing pieces Black is mated.
after 25..fg 26. Ng5! we reach this position:
[d]1r3rk1/3bb1p1/1qn2Pp1/p2pP1N1/3P4/2P5/6K1/qNB4Q b - - 0 26
and now only 26...Qbb2! avoid mate! 27.Bxb2 Qxb2+ 28.Kg3 Qf2+! 29.Kxf2 Rxf6+ 30.exf6 Bxf6 31.Qd5+ +6.xx for white
second best move (26...Bh3+) leads after 27.Qxh3 to mate in 8 for white.
Try not capturing with the Bishop. Try Nd2 instead.
Hello Terry,
I think you may want to look at the postion again, or maybe I am looking at the wrong position. Either way, can you show the position in which you think nd2 is good?
In this position if nd2 ?? white gets mated not black.
[d]1r3rk1/3bb1p1/2n2Pp1/p2pP1N1/3P4/2P5/1q4K1/qNB4Q w - - 0 2
Last edited by Robert Flesher on Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Engines are actually very good in these type of positions. Of course an extra queen can skew things for a while, but it doesn't take long for an engine to see the sac. But 5 minutes on fast hardware and R4.1 sees no mate.
New game
1r3rk1/3bbppp/1qn2P2/p2pP1P1/3P4/2PB1N2/6K1/qNBQ1R2 w - - 0 1