tiger wrote:tomgdrums wrote:tiger wrote:tomgdrums wrote:No I am not going to complain at all. The ironic thing is that I agree with you about the era of cut and paste engines. None of them interest me. I enjoy the chance to purchase original engines by original authors. But your flippant answers to my honest questions regarding a potential Chess Tiger 2011 for PC and your disdain for other programs makes me question whether I care anymore about a Chess Tiger for PC.tiger wrote:Tord Romstad wrote:For the same reason that most of us on this message board uses more than one chess program: They are all different, and it is fun to play against a variety of opponents. In addition to Stockfish, I use Chess Tiger, Chess Genius, Hiarcs and Kakinoki Shogi regularly on my iPhone and iPad. I also have Shredder and tChess Pro installed, but I don't like them as much as the other programs, and rarely use them.tiger wrote:Tord Romstad wrote:True, but actually the iOS version is named "Stockfish chess", in order to make it easier to find accidentally when searching for chess programs on the app store. I have several friends with iPhones who wanted a chess program, downloaded the most promising looking free program they could find, and discovered to their surprise that I am the author (most of my friends don't know I'm a chess programmer).tiger wrote:The name is not important. Look, you can have a horrible and nonsensical name like "Stockfish" and still be popular.
Thanks a lot for the new version! The only thing I'm missing now is iPad support.
Actually I'm wondering why you use Chess Tiger. You have developped your own chess program for the same platform...
Shredder has been a great inspiration for me. It showed me how disastrous it can be to try to cram too much information on such a small screen.
Tom are you listening? Are you going to complain to Stephan for this one?
As someone who complains (and rightfully so I might add) about the people who support the cut and paste engines, you might want to learn to be a little nicer to potential paying customers and your colleagues who also put out good product.
Just a thought.
Don't even think about it.
I have been posting here for years and stopped on the first days of september 2008 after having been flamed to the bones together with a few others. I was defending my opinion that Rybka was an illegal derivative of a GPL program. Looks like the general opinion has changed a little bit, but I'm not going to forget about this.
Now I'm back.
If I want to hide what I think, I just don't post.
If I post, I say what I really have in mind.
I have great respect for a number of chess programmers. Not all of them, but most of them. let me name for example Stephan, Mark, Richard, Bob, Tord, Frans, ... just to name a few (no offense meant to the great people I have left out).
It is an unfortunate fact that I am in direct competition with some of them. But I know, and they know, that we are the ones who have worked hard, for years, on our own creations. That we are fighting but that we have actually many things in common and we can imagine ourselves in each other's shoes (not sure if this sentence makes any sense, grammatically ).
I can imagine how they had to struggle with Objective-C in order to create an iOS GUI, for those who did it themselves. I can imagine how they had to struggle with their own existing code to implement interpolation between opening and endgame scores.
So there is definitely some kind of connection between us, a sense of competition, but no hate or disrespect I think.
On iOS, I find Shredder's GUI too cramped. So what?
Richard's program is outdated. So what? He is one of my idols.
Tord's program is not for everyone. So what?
I find Mark's program not appealing, graphically. So what?
Fritz, it seems, screwed up and has got a number of bad reviews. So what?
Chess Tiger is certainly the most outrageaous: it is available in english only. It is said that it is not competitive stength-wise. The first version was insufficiently tested and did not work on iOS 3.1.3. The email feature did not work either. I don't have permanent brain. Worse, the engine can do it but I will not implement it in the GUI.
Now about the "potential customers".
If someone likes my products and purchase them, great. If he does not purchase them because of what I say, that's perfectly fine with me. I would do exactly the same.
I'm not going to change what I think or what I say in fear of losing customers. I just don't care. You'd know if you were there 3 years ago, or before.
You seem to be upset by the fact that I did not answer your question about Chess Tiger for PC.
I have been asked this question here a dozen times in the last few days and I did not answer. Maybe you have not noticed, but you are the only one taking offense.
I guess that the other persons have noticed the silence, that they have understood and, by respect, did not insist.
You mention the word respect. Would it not have been respectful for you to just have answered my question with a simple, "I do not yet know my plans for Chess Tiger 2011 on other platforms."
I asked because I was excited and enthusiastic about it! Sorry about that!
And yet when you did eventually answer you answered in a sarcastic and disrespectful way. Why?
Again I am sorry that I was initially enthusiastic about your program. I won't commit that sin again.
You should relax a little bit... It's already hot enough on some other threads in this forum...
Thanks for the concern. I am doing well. Best of luck.