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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Romy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:07 pm

Christopher Conkie wrote:I've seen many cars like this in Nizhny Novgorod before.
I give hint to those with lack of analytics.
Look see domain of image source (rightclick on the mouse gadget).
So the right-hand-drive conclusion is safe, and Dr Deeb is...not.

Are you illustrated?
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Post by bob » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:09 pm

And there is some sort of point to the post and picture? Eludes me.

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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Christopher Conkie » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:12 pm

Romy wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:I've seen many cars like this in Nizhny Novgorod before.
I give hint to those with lack of analytics.
Look see domain of image source (rightclick on the mouse gadget).
So the right-hand-drive conclusion is safe, and Dr Deeb is...not.

Are you illustrated?
Unde nu intra soarele pe geam, intra doctorul pe usa.

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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Romy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:46 pm

Robert Flesher wrote:we have respected "experts" in field of computer chess stating there is illegal code copying present in Rybka 1.0.
So-called "experts" in field of computer chess may not be such experts in field of optimising compilers...hopefully, they can extricates themselves before it bites them. See my contribution above for relevance.

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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Terry McCracken » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:49 pm

Romy wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:we have respected "experts" in field of computer chess stating there is illegal code copying present in Rybka 1.0.
So-called "experts" in field of computer chess may not be such experts in field of optimising compilers...hopefully, they can extricates themselves before it bites them. See my contribution above for relevance.
You don't frighten anyone, Nemo.
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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by IQ » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Hi Rolf, nice to see that you got a new alias!
Romy wrote:In advance, forgive me my failures in English for my first post and all permitted successors.

I was attracted here by the controversy of early versions of RYBKA and any alleged small idea or even code/method borrowings or inspirations by its author Mr Rajlich.

You may not know that this matter even has escaped into the realworld media. Der Spiegel!!

I studied the whole thing, read a PDF from Mr Wegner and a PDF from another who did not directly sign his name to it, but who is known. And I read hundreds of post here and in open chess and hiarcs, and a hit-letter to ICGA with list of confederated signers.

I think by this standard applied against Mr Rajlich, even Mr Shakespeare should be banned. Shakespeare borrowed plots, methods, ideas even big groups of words. Plays are not chessprograms but the principle is similar.

Point is, Shakespeare's improvements were of great supergenius, not (relatively) mediocre like his so-called inspiration sources

More I studied this matter, more I was reminded of this wise quotation --

"This evil fortune, which generally attends extraordinary men in the management of great affairs, has been imputed to divers causes, that need not be here set down, when so obvious a one occurs, if what a certain writer observes be true, that when a great genius appears in the world the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
- Jonathan Swift, "Essay on the Fates of Clergymen", 1728

I do not call all the signatories to the anti-Rajlich as "dunces" but I do classify them as dunces by relativity - means by comparison to Mr Rajlich. In my opinion. And in opinion of Chess. Everything is relative. In their own circles I am sure they are all great wiseguys. Maybe, 20 or 30 years ago they too were genius not (relative) dunce.

Reason for my thinking is this. Their creations were not only beaten thoroughly by RYBKA, but were beaten with a maximum of humiliation! They could not even understand the chess method, how they were beaten! Most of the time they and their vast-inferior creations thought they were drawing, even winning, then as if my magic RYBKA prevailed. No magic. Just a higher chess.

So the 10 signatures to the anti-Rajlich letter, to me are all a nonsense and a confederacy. Of no appreciable value. No probative value. No evidential value. No big technical value. Only grapes value. Sour, even?

So what if Mr Rajlich looked at Mr Letouzey's work? He produce something of much higher magnitudes, level, understanding - Mr Rajlich's genius.

In all so-called evidence I see patch of code here and of source there. Nowhere I see understanding of how the alleged son is so much stronger (at Chess! not programming!) than the father.

If Mr Houdart (author of the HOUDINI) were to sign such a hit-letter as produced against Mr Rajlich, then I would pay some attention to the letter. At least HOUDINI is a suitable calibre opponent to RYBKA, its author's opinion deserve respect. All I can see is result of RYBKA-CRAFTY or other lacklustres. How many game I have to play from neutral openingbook before Crafty win single game against RYBKA? 300? 3000? More? JUNIOR same.

I am waiting to be sent testcopy of Dr Wael Deeb's chessprogram. His most gentle, most refined language is a good attracter for me.

History will record this attack event much the same as my analysis, of this I am confident.

ICGA better disband before Mr Levy gets into trouble, I would advise. It has no legal role and should watch carefully unwise statement.

My advice to Mr Rajlich, ignore the mob, I mean confederacy. Let them make sanctions. History is to your side. Tournament without RYBKA is like human chess world without KASPAROV. Do not even soil your hand with lawsuit. It is in the inherent(?) nature of dog to bark when it sees a frightening power, and of dunces to confederate, so there is no question of blame.

Even if Mr Rajlich did 90% of what he is accused, no big deal, it is matter of legal interpretation. Mozart had but once to hear other's music, he internally recorded and processed then improved greatly. There are many examples.

Condemn Rajlich, you condemn Shakespeare and Mozart too.

Excuse me, I have no intention of providing offense to any person, even Salieri. Only for perspective. So, confederacy of (relative) dunces, please excuse my statements, they all were given with the maximum of due, earned respect to you.

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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Romy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:15 pm

geots wrote:Welcome to the forum. It may be too late, but I hope you had all your shots and other vaccinations before posting here. There is a lot of crap floating around.
Thank you. I did. And I observed as you said.

Even, it appears I am some person or persons I am not. Same people who made the false accusation against Mr Rajlich have made baseless, evidenceless accusations against me. Making accusations without even the semblances of proof is apparently a norm here, and some moderators either participate or permit.

Mr Rajlich always appeared a gentleman in posting. But he has invoked a massive inferiority complex in some other. Chess is only the game.

Since two apparently very different source codes can, given supercompilers, render into the same object code, comparing object code of RYBKA (early) and other programs (source or object, it does not concern) proves...nothing, except about the logic powers of the pack hunters.

Showing that Fruit source in small parts compiles into object code modules similar or even identical to chunks within RYBKA is an example of non-proof. S/N ratio high to overload.

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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Terry McCracken » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:22 pm

Romy wrote:
geots wrote:Welcome to the forum. It may be too late, but I hope you had all your shots and other vaccinations before posting here. There is a lot of crap floating around.
Thank you. I did. And I observed as you said.

Even, it appears I am some person or persons I am not. Same people who made the false accusation against Mr Rajlich have made baseless, evidenceless accusations against me. Making accusations without even the semblances of proof is apparently a norm here, and some moderators either participate or permit.

Mr Rajlich always appeared a gentleman in posting. But he has invoked a massive inferiority complex in some other. Chess is only the game.
What accusations have been made against you?
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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Terry McCracken » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:27 pm

geots wrote:
Romy wrote:
benstoker wrote:[somebody else's original code] + [a chunk of Vas original code] != original code
Erroneous exclamations mark is present in above. Specially, because "chunk" here is vast majority of important code.


Welcome to the forum. It may be too late, but I hope you had all your shots and other vaccinations before posting here. There is a lot of crap floating around.

Best,


PS: I actually own the copyright for quoting Jonathan Swift. The ICGA or CIGA or whatever the shit they call it, told me so.
Yes, two in this thread are spewing a lot of nonsense.
This thread needs to be deleted for civil discourse to move foward.

Twitty or whomever is hiding his identity, maybe you should do the same George.
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Re: When a great genius appears, dunces can be relied upon a

Post by Romy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Terry McCracken wrote:What accusations have been made against you?
Is there a memory impairment? You accused me of being some Christopher (Conkie?) and some Roberto made another. Scroll back to find unless rogue moderator are at work.

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