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NATIONAL12
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houdini

Post by NATIONAL12 »

in corr play to be polite Houdini is crap.ok you get a fast exe which i will be first to admit its briliant at blitz,however in my games on WBBC i have had to overule it.even in my presant game Houdini is given +0.29 evals,i am black and yet i know i am completely lost,here is position.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... 21833;pg=2
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NATIONAL12
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Re: houdini

Post by NATIONAL12 »

to clarify above.

my last move was 30...Bb4 i spent many hours checking every defense on a 12 core computer and cannot improve on the following line

31.Bf4 Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.F4!! and i doubt anyone on this forum could find this move it is incredibly deep,just know my opponent will find it.
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zullil
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Re: houdini

Post by zullil »

NATIONAL12 wrote:to clarify above.

my last move was 30...Bb4 i spent many hours checking every defense on a 12 core computer and cannot improve on the following line

31.Bf4 Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.F4!! and i doubt anyone on this forum could find this move it is incredibly deep,just know my opponent will find it.
[D]2r3k1/5pp1/5n1p/pB6/Pb2p3/1n2B2P/1P3PP1/3R1NK1 w - - 0 31
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kgburcham
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on behalf of CCC, challenge accepted

Post by kgburcham »

NATIONAL12 wrote:to clarify above.
33.F4!! and i doubt anyone on this forum could find this move it is incredibly deep,just know my opponent will find it.
this program prefers 33.f4
[D] 6k1/5pp1/5n1p/pBr1B3/Pb2p3/1n5P/1P3PP1/3R1NK1 w - -

8.00 0:00 +1.18++ 33.Bd6 (11.760)
8.00 0:00 +1.11 33.Bf4 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (15.706)
8.00 0:00 +1.11 33.Bf4 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (16.830)
9.00 0:00 +1.03-- 33.Bf4 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (31.260) 1953
9.00 0:00 +0.95-- 33.Bf4 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (38.677) 2417
9.00 0:00 +0.88 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (48.843) 3052
9.00 0:00 +0.88 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (54.710) 3419
10.00 0:00 +0.80-- 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Be5 Rc5 (140.902) 4403
10.00 0:00 +0.77 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Rd1 Rxb2 36.Be5 Rc2 37.Ne3 Rd2 38.Rxd2 Nxd2 39.Kh2 Nb3 40.Kg3 (157.717) 4928
10.00 0:00 +0.77 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Rd1 Rxb2 36.Be5 Rc2 37.Ne3 Rd2 38.Rxd2 Nxd2 39.Kh2 Nb3 40.Kg3 (196.167) 6130
11.00 0:00 +0.85++ 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Rd1 Rxb2 36.Be5 Rc2 37.Ne3 Rd2 38.Rxd2 Nxd2 39.Kh2 Nb3 40.Kg3 (208.583) 6518
11.00 0:00 +0.76 33.Bg3 Rc2 34.Ne3 Rxb2 35.Be5 Rd2 36.Rxd2 Nxd2 37.Bc6 Nb3 38.Kf1 Nc5 39.Ke2 Nd3 40.Bxf6 gxf6 41.Bxe4 (213.167) 6661
11.00 0:00 +0.77 33.Rd8+ Kh7 34.Bh2 Rc2 35.Rd1 Rxb2 36.Be5 Rc2 37.Ne3 Rd2 38.Rxd2 Nxd2 39.Kh2 Nb3 40.Kg3 (299.985) 6382
11.00 0:00 +0.93++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Ne3 Bc5 35.Re1 Nd5 (600.262) 7598
11.00 0:00 +0.93 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nb3 39.Nd2 (602.200) 7622
11.00 0:00 +0.93 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nb3 39.Nd2 (607.782) 7693
12.00 0:00 +1.01++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nb3 39.Nd2 (626.061) 7924
12.00 0:00 +1.09++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nb3 39.Nd2 (635.221) 8040
12.00 0:00 +1.09 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nd3 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Kg6 41.a5 Kf5 42.Ng3+ Ke6 (638.562) 8083
12.00 0:00 +1.09 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nd3 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Kg6 41.a5 Kf5 42.Ng3+ Ke6 (661.311) 8371
13.00 0:00 +1.01-- 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Nc1 37.Rc3 Rxc3 38.Bxc3 Nd3 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Kg6 41.a5 Kf5 42.Ng3+ Ke6 (799.102) 8501
13.00 0:00 +1.00 33.f4 Rc1 34.Rxc1 Nxc1 35.Ng3 Nd3 36.Bxf6 gxf6 37.Nxe4 Nxf4 38.Nxf6+ Kg7 39.Nd7 h5 40.Kf2 h4 41.Ne5 Bd6 42.Nc4 Nd3+ 43.Kf3 (976.200) 8874
13.00 0:00 +1.00 33.f4 Rc1 34.Rxc1 Nxc1 35.Ng3 Nd3 36.Bxf6 gxf6 37.Nxe4 Nxf4 38.Nxf6+ Kg7 39.Nd7 h5 40.Kf2 h4 41.Ne5 Bd6 42.Nc4 Nd3+ 43.Kf3 (1.010.260) 8082
14.00 0:00 +1.00 33.f4 Rc1 34.Rxc1 Nxc1 35.Ng3 Nd3 36.Bxf6 gxf6 37.Nxe4 Nxf4 38.Nxf6+ Kg7 39.Nd7 h5 40.Kf2 h4 41.Ne5 Bd6 42.Nc4 Nd3+ 43.Kf3 (1.548.008) 9859
14.00 0:00 +1.00 33.f4 Rc1 34.Rxc1 Nxc1 35.Ng3 Nd3 36.Bxf6 gxf6 37.Nxe4 Nxf4 38.Nxf6+ Kg7 39.Nd7 h5 40.Kf2 h4 41.Ne5 Bd6 42.Nc4 Nd3+ 43.Kf3 (1.740.232) 10117
15.00 0:00 +0.92-- 33.f4 Rc1 34.Rxc1 Nxc1 35.Ng3 Nd3 36.Bxf6 gxf6 37.Nxe4 Nxf4 38.Nxf6+ Kg7 39.Nd7 h5 40.Kf2 h4 41.Ne5 Bd6 42.Nc4 Nd3+ 43.Kf3 (3.416.167) 12114
15.00 0:00 +0.92 33.f4 Nc1 34.Ne3 Nd3 35.Bxd3 exd3 36.Rxd3 Ne4 37.Kh2 f6 38.Rd8+ Kh7 39.Bd4 Rc6 40.Rd5 Kg6 41.Rb5 Bc5 42.Bxc5 Rxc5 43.Rb7 f5 44.Rd7 Rc1 (3.500.243) 12412
15.00 0:00 +0.92 33.f4 Nc1 34.Ne3 Nd3 35.Bxd3 exd3 36.Rxd3 Ne4 37.Kh2 f6 38.Rd8+ Kh7 39.Bd4 Rc6 40.Rd5 Kg6 41.Rb5 Bc5 42.Bxc5 Rxc5 43.Rb7 f5 44.Rd7 Rc1 (3.500.322) 12412
16.00 0:00 +0.92 33.f4 Nc1 34.Ne3 Nd3 35.Bxd3 exd3 36.Rxd3 Ne4 37.Kh2 f6 38.Rd8+ Kh7 39.Bd4 Rc6 40.Rd5 Kg6 41.Rb5 Bc5 42.Bxc5 Rxc5 43.Rb7 f5 44.Rd7 Rc1 (4.390.586) 12763
16.00 0:00 +0.92 33.f4 Nc1 34.Ne3 Nd3 35.Bxd3 exd3 36.Rxd3 Ne4 37.Kh2 f6 38.Rd8+ Kh7 39.Bd4 Rc6 40.Rd5 Kg6 41.Rb5 Bc5 42.Bxc5 Rxc5 43.Rb7 f5 44.Rd7 Rc1 (4.819.583) 12852
17.00 0:00 +0.98 33.f4 Nc1 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Ne3 Nd3 36.Bxd3 exd3 37.Rxd3 Rc1+ 38.Kh2 Rb1 39.Nd5 Nxd5 40.Rxd5 f6 41.Bc3 Ra1 42.Bxb4 axb4 43.a5 Ra2 44.b3 Ra3 45.Kg1 Rxb3 46.a6 (8.262.449) 14675
17.00 0:00 +0.98 33.f4 Nc1 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Ne3 Nd3 36.Bxd3 exd3 37.Rxd3 Rc1+ 38.Kh2 Rb1 39.Nd5 Nxd5 40.Rxd5 f6 41.Bc3 Ra1 42.Bxb4 axb4 43.a5 Ra2 44.b3 Ra3 45.Kg1 Rxb3 46.a6 (8.901.570) 14242
18.00 0:01 +0.90-- 33.f4 Nc1 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Ne3 Nd3 36.Bxd3 exd3 37.Rxd3 Rc1+ 38.Kh2 Rb1 39.Nd5 Nxd5 40.Rxd5 f6 41.Bc3 Kg6 42.f5+ Kg5 43.Bd4 Re1 44.Kg3 Re4 45.Bf2 Re2 46.h4+ (18.992.175) 16204
18.00 0:01 +0.82-- 33.f4 Nc1 34.Rd8+ Kh7 35.Ne3 Nd3 36.Bxd3 exd3 37.Rxd3 Rc1+ 38.Kh2 Rb1 39.Nd5 Nxd5 40.Rxd5 f6 41.Bc3 Kg6 42.f5+ Kg5 43.Bd4 Re1 44.Kg3 Re4 45.Bf2 Re2 46.h4+ (24.139.757) 16255
18.00 0:01 +0.82 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bc7 Kf8 39.Bd8 Nh5 40.Bc6 Be1 41.Bh4 g5 42.fxg5 hxg5 (24.279.169) 16186
18.00 0:01 +0.82 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bc7 Kf8 39.Bd8 Nh5 40.Bc6 Be1 41.Bh4 g5 42.fxg5 hxg5 (24.279.206) 16186
19.00 0:01 +0.90++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bc7 Kf8 39.Bc6 Ke7 40.Kg2 Ke6 41.g4 g6 42.Ne3 Nxb2 43.f5+ Ke7 44.fxg6 fxg6 (33.175.631) 16713
19.00 0:02 +0.88 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Na1 37.Rc3 Nd5 38.Rxc2 Nxc2 39.Ng3 Be3 40.Nxe4 Bxf4 41.Bxf4 Nxf4 42.Kh2 Ne3 43.g3 Nfd5 44.Nc5 Kg6 45.Nb3 Nd1 46.Bd3+ (33.583.064) 16658
19.00 0:02 +0.88 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Na1 37.Rc3 Nd5 38.Rxc2 Nxc2 39.Ng3 Be3 40.Nxe4 Bxf4 41.Bxf4 Nxf4 42.Kh2 Ne3 43.g3 Nfd5 44.Nc5 Kg6 45.Nb3 Nd1 46.Bd3+ (35.303.238) 16366
20.00 0:02 +0.80-- 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Bc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Rd3 Na1 37.Rc3 Nd5 38.Rxc2 Nxc2 39.Ng3 Be3 40.Nxe4 Bxf4 41.Bxf4 Nxf4 42.Kh2 Ne3 43.g3 Nfd5 44.Nc5 Kg6 45.Nb3 Nd1 46.Bd3+ (46.877.888) 16215
20.00 0:03 +0.82 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.Ng3 Nd3 37.Bxf6 gxf6 38.Nxe4 Nxf4 39.Nxf6+ Kg7 40.Ng4 Bd6 41.Ne3 Bc7 42.Nc4 Ne2 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bd5 Kf6 45.Kg1 (56.748.842) 16889
20.00 0:03 +0.82 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.Ng3 Nd3 37.Bxf6 gxf6 38.Nxe4 Nxf4 39.Nxf6+ Kg7 40.Ng4 Bd6 41.Ne3 Bc7 42.Nc4 Ne2 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bd5 Kf6 45.Kg1 (56.748.879) 16889
21.00 0:03 +0.90++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.Ng3 Nd3 37.Bxf6 gxf6 38.Nxe4 Nxf4 39.Nxf6+ Kg7 40.Ng4 Bd6 41.Ne3 Bc7 42.Nc4 Ne2 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bd5 Kf6 45.Kg1 (63.265.723) 16938
21.00 0:04 +0.98++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh1 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.Ng3 Nd3 37.Bxf6 gxf6 38.Nxe4 Nxf4 39.Nxf6+ Kg7 40.Ng4 Bd6 41.Ne3 Bc7 42.Nc4 Ne2 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bd5 Kf6 45.Kg1 (69.718.991) 16963
21.00 0:04 +0.86 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (70.372.806) 16928
21.00 0:04 +0.86 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (75.883.913) 16744
22.00 0:04 +0.94++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (81.966.073) 16865
22.00 0:05 +0.96 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (86.576.734) 16788
22.00 0:05 +0.96 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (93.499.640) 16528
23.00 0:07 +0.88-- 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 g5 41.fxg5 hxg5 42.Nc4 Nb3 43.Kg2 Kg7 44.Kf2 Nd5 45.Ne3 (119.394.414) 16154
23.00 0:08 +0.87 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 Kf8 41.Nc4 Nb3 42.Kg2 Ke7 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bb7 Nb3 45.Kf2 (132.058.521) 16128
23.00 0:09 +0.87 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Rxd1 36.Nxd1 Nc1 37.g3 Nd3 38.Bd4 Bc5 39.Bxc5 Nxc5 40.Ne3 Kf8 41.Nc4 Nb3 42.Kg2 Ke7 43.Bc6 Nd4 44.Bb7 Nb3 45.Kf2 (148.288.162) 15842
24.00 0:13 +0.81 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Nd3 41.g3 Kf8 42.a5 Ke7 43.a6 Bb6 44.Ne1 N3b4 45.Be2 Kd6 46.Kg2 (230.042.715) 16710
24.00 0:18 +0.81 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Nd3 41.g3 Kf8 42.a5 Ke7 43.a6 Bb6 44.Ne1 N3b4 45.Be2 Kd6 46.Kg2 (325.355.361) 17482
25.00 0:20 +0.81 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Nd3 41.g3 Kf8 42.a5 Ke7 43.a6 Bb6 44.Ne1 N3b4 45.Be2 Kd6 46.Kg2 (371.750.778) 17754
25.00 0:25 +0.81 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Nd3 41.g3 Kf8 42.a5 Ke7 43.a6 Bb6 44.Ne1 N3b4 45.Be2 Kd6 46.Kg2 (450.617.744) 17660
26.00 0:38 +0.89++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.Bd2 Nd3 41.g3 Kf8 42.a5 Ke7 43.a6 Bb6 44.Ne1 N3b4 45.Be2 Kd6 46.Kg2 (735.507.539) 19197
26.00 0:44 +0.90 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.g3 Nd1 41.Bd2 N1c3 42.Bc6 Kf8 43.Kg2 Ke7 44.a5 Kd6 45.Ba8 Kc7 46.f5 (854.985.898) 19112
26.00 0:49 +0.90 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.g3 Nd1 41.Bd2 N1c3 42.Bc6 Kf8 43.Kg2 Ke7 44.a5 Kd6 45.Ba8 Kc7 46.f5 (937.060.830) 18984
27.00 1:09 +0.82-- 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nd5 39.Bxa5 Nxb2 40.g3 Nd1 41.Bd2 N1c3 42.Bc6 Kf8 43.Kg2 Ke7 44.a5 Kd6 45.Ba8 Kc7 46.f5 (1.331.648.844) 19057
27.00 1:20 +0.80 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.g3 Nd3 37.Bd4 h5 38.f5 Ne1 39.Kh1 Nf3 40.Bxf6 gxf6 41.Bc6 Nd2 42.Nxd2 Bxd2 43.Bxe4 Kg7 44.Kg2 Bc1 45.b3 Be3 46.Bf3 (1.543.885.455) 19167
27.00 1:33 +0.80 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.g3 Nd3 37.Bd4 h5 38.f5 Ne1 39.Kh1 Nf3 40.Bxf6 gxf6 41.Bc6 Nd2 42.Nxd2 Bxd2 43.Bxe4 Kg7 44.Kg2 Bc1 45.b3 Be3 46.Bf3 (1.777.458.934) 19096
28.00 1:56 +0.88++ 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.g3 Nd3 37.Bd4 h5 38.f5 Ne1 39.Kh1 Nf3 40.Bxf6 gxf6 41.Bc6 Nd2 42.Nxd2 Bxd2 43.Bxe4 Kg7 44.Kg2 Bc1 45.b3 Be3 46.Bd3 (2.289.285.253) 19676
28.00 1:59 +0.88 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nxb2 39.g3 Nd1 40.Bxa5 Nd5 41.Be1 N1c3 42.Bc4 Kf8 43.a5 Ke7 44.f5 Kd6 45.Kg2 Kc6 46.Kf1 (2.356.183.555) 19714
28.00 2:13 +0.88 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nxb2 39.g3 Nd1 40.Bxa5 Nd5 41.Be1 N1c3 42.Bc4 Kf8 43.a5 Ke7 44.f5 Kd6 45.Kg2 Kc6 46.Kf1 (2.619.391.637) 19692
28.00 2:27 +0.88 33.f4 Rc2 34.Kh2 Rc1 35.Ne3 Bc5 36.Rxc1 Nxc1 37.Nc2 Nd3 38.Bc7 Nxb2 39.g3 Nd1 40.Bxa5 Nd5 41.Be1 N1c3 42.Bc4 Kf8 43.a5 Ke7 44.Kg2 Kd6 45.Kf1 Kc6 46.f5 (2.927.383.799) 19892
best move: f2-f4 time: 2:28.719 min n/s: 19.892.000 nodes: 2.927.383.799
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Eelco de Groot
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Re: houdini

Post by Eelco de Groot »

NATIONAL12 wrote:in corr play to be polite Houdini is crap.ok you get a fast exe which i will be first to admit its briliant at blitz,however in my games on WBBC i have had to overule it.even in my presant game Houdini is given +0.29 evals,i am black and yet i know i am completely lost,here is position.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... 21833;pg=2
The position does not seem so lost to Rainbow Serpent. With white it would play 31. Ng3.


2r3k1/5pp1/5n1p/pB6/Pb2p3/1n2B2P/1P3PP1/3R1NK1 w - -

Engine: eXperimental Tommy Cooper - Rainbow Serpent Build 181 (Athlon 2009 MHz, 128 MB)

by Tord Romstad, Marco Costalba, Joona Kiiski

22/08 5:28 +0.59 31.Ng3 Rc7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bf1 Kh7
34.h4 Kg6 (166.567.745) 507

23/19 6:08 +0.50 31.Ng3 Bc5 32.Nf5 Kh7 33.Bc4 Bxe3
34.Nxe3 Nc5 35.Bxf7 Nxa4 36.Rd2 Rc1+
37.Kh2 Rc7 38.Ba2 Kg6 39.Nc4 Rb7
40.h4 (187.244.769) 508

24/17 8:35 +0.52 31.Ng3 g5 32.Nf5 Kh7 33.f3 Kg6
34.fxe4 Nxe4 35.g3 Bc5 36.Kg2 Kxf5
37.Bd7+ Ke5 38.Bxc8 Bxe3 39.Rd3 (258.809.776) 502

25/30 28:33 +0.41 31.Ng3 Kh7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 35.Bxf6 gxf6 36.Bd7 Rc4
37.Bf5+ Kg8 38.Nf1 Nxf1 39.Kxf1 Kg7
40.b3 Rc3 41.Bxe4 Rxb3 42.g3 Ra3
43.Bd5 Rxa4 44.Ke2 (882.871.268) 515

26/29 28:48 +0.41 31.Ng3 Kh7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 35.Bxf6 gxf6 36.Bd7 Rc4
37.Bf5+ Kg8 38.Nf1 Nxf1 39.Kxf1 Kg7
40.b3 Rc3 41.Bxe4 Rxb3 42.g3 Ra3
43.Bd5 Rxa4 44.Ke2 (890.507.227) 515

27/29 30:51 +0.41 31.Ng3 Kh7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 35.Bxf6 gxf6 36.Bd7 Rc4
37.Bf5+ Kg8 38.Nf1 Nxf1 39.Kxf1 Kg7
40.b3 Rc3 41.Bxe4 Rxb3 42.g3 Ra3
43.Bd5 Rxa4 44.Ke2 (950.756.473) 513

28/29 35:02 +0.41 31.Ng3 Kh7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 35.Bxf6 gxf6 36.Bd7 Rc4
37.Bf5+ Kg8 38.Nf1 Nxf1 39.Kxf1 Kg7
40.b3 Rc3 41.Bxe4 Rxb3 42.g3 Ra3
43.Bd5 Rxa4 44.Ke2 (1.074.830.196) 511

29/27 41:11 +0.41 31.Ng3 Kh7 32.Bf4 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 35.Bxf6 gxf6 36.Bd7 Rc4
37.Bf5+ Kg8 38.Nf1 Nxf1 39.Kxf1 Kg7
40.b3 Rc3 41.Bxe4 Rxb3 42.g3 Ra3
43.Bd5 Rxa4 44.Ke2 (1.258.034.510) 509

In case of 31.Bf4 it would not play 33. f4 but again evaluation is only a little bit better for White. As this game is still in progress can we be sure you are not trying to set a trap? How deep did you investigate 33. f4? Show us a winning line :P ! Just kidding Mr. National.


[D]2r3k1/5pp1/5n1p/pB6/Pb2pB2/1n5P/1P3PP1/3R1NK1 b - -

Engine: eXperimental Tommy Cooper - Rainbow Serpent Build 181 (Athlon 2009 MHz, 128 MB)

1/01 0:00 +0.16 31...Rc2 (351) 21

2/04 0:00 0.00 31...Rc2 32.Rd8+ Bf8 33.Bd6 (898) 56

3/11 0:00 -0.04 31...Rc2 32.Rd8+ Kh7 33.Ne3 Rxb2
34.Bc4 Rb1+ 35.Rd1 Rxd1+ 36.Nxd1 Nd4 (3.243) 202

4/11 0:00 -0.04 31...Rc2 32.Rd8+ Kh7 33.Ne3 Rxb2
34.Bc4 Rb1+ 35.Rd1 Rxd1+ 36.Nxd1 Nd4 (22.460) 356

5/09 0:00 0.00 31...Rc2 32.Rd8+ Kh7 33.Ne3 Rxb2
34.Nc4 Rb1+ 35.Kh2 Bc5 (29.926) 383

6/10 0:00 -0.08-- 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kh7 35.Bc3 Kg6 36.g3 (61.539) 436

6/10 0:00 -0.14 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Nc5 35.Bc3 Nb7 36.Rd2 (82.030) 476

7/16 0:00 -0.15 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kh7 35.Bc3 Kg6 36.g3 Nc5
37.Bxa5 Rxb2 38.Bc3 Rc2 39.Be5 (95.443) 470

8/08 0:00 -0.20 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Nd2 35.Bc3 (143.042) 481

9/16 0:00 -0.22 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kh7 35.g3 Kg6 36.Bc3 Nc5
37.Bxa5 Rxb2 38.Bc3 Rc2 39.Bb4 (179.874) 499

10/10 0:00 -0.20 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Rc1 35.Rxc1 Nxc1 36.f3 (349.226) 496

11/16 0:01 -0.28-- 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kh7 35.Kh2 Kg6 36.Bc3 Nc5
37.Kg3 Nh5+ 38.Kh4 Nf6 39.g3 (582.337) 510

11/19 0:01 -0.29 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kh7 35.Kh2 Kg6 36.Bc3 Nc5
37.Bxa5 Rxb2 38.Bc3 Rb3 39.Bd4 Ne6
40.Bb6 Kh7 (633.288) 512

12/08 0:01 -0.25 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Kf8 35.Bc3 (959.659) 520

13/24 0:03 -0.32 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Bc5 33.Ne3 Bxe3
34.fxe3 Rc5 35.Rd8+ Kh7 36.Bxf6 gxf6
37.Be8 Kg7 38.Rd7 Rc1+ 39.Kh2 Rc8
40.Rxf7+ Kg6 41.Rb7+ Kf5 42.Rxb3 Rxe8
43.Rc3 (1.734.705) 533

14/19 0:05 -0.20++ 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Nd2 35.h4 f5 36.f4 exf3
37.Bd3 fxg2 38.Kxg2 f4 39.Nf5 h5
40.Nd4 Kg7 (2.766.506) 534

14/18 0:06 -0.13 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Nd2 35.Be2 Kg7 36.g3 f5
37.Kg2 Re5 38.Nc2 Rd5 39.Nxb4 axb4
40.f4 (3.505.122) 536

15/19 0:07 -0.28 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Nd2 35.Be2 h5 36.h4 Kg7 37.f4 exf3
38.gxf3 Re5 39.Kf2 Bc5 40.Rg1+ Kf8 (4.123.407) 540

16/16 0:16 -0.45 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Rc8 35.g3 Bc5 36.Nf5 Kh7
37.Rd7 Kg6 38.Nh4+ Kg7 39.Bc4 (9.165.826) 543

16/07 0:21 -0.41 31...Kh7 32.Ng3 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 (11.391.657) 538

17/07 0:21 -0.41 31...Kh7 32.Ng3 Rc5 33.Bd6 Rc8
34.Be5 Nd2 (11.760.112) 536

17/23 0:28 -0.36 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.f4 exf3 36.gxf3 f4
37.Nc4 Kg7 38.h4 Rh5 39.Nd6 Nd4
40.Rxd4 Bc5 41.Ne8+ Kg6 42.Bd3+ f5 (15.344.661) 537

18/16 0:31 -0.35 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Rc8 35.g3 Bc5 36.Nf5 Kh7
37.Rd7 Kg6 38.Nh4+ Kg7 39.Ba6 (16.953.474) 537

19/07 0:39 -0.24 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Rd8+ Kh7
34.Bh2 Rc2 (21.321.420) 536

20/23 1:12 -0.27 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.f4 exf3 36.gxf3 f4
37.Nc4 Kg7 38.Rd8 Rg5+ 39.Kh2 Bc5
40.Rd3 Nd4 41.h4 Rg3 42.Ne5 Nf5 (38.343.579) 532

21/26 1:53 -0.28 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 h5
37.gxh5 Rg5+ 38.Kh2 Rxh5+ 39.Kg3 Be7
40.Nd5 Bd6+ 41.Kg4 Rh6 42.Kf5 Rh5+
43.Kxe4 Re5+ 44.Kf3 (60.085.688) 531

22/25 2:41 -0.17 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 f4 36.Nd5 Nd2
37.Nxf4 Rc2 38.Kg2 Bc5 39.Nh5 Rxb2
40.Ng3 e3 41.Re1 h5 42.gxh5 exf2
43.Re2 Kg7 (85.085.689) 527

23/12 3:01 -0.18 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Rd8+ Kh7
34.Bxf6 gxf6 35.Ng3 Nd2 36.Kh1 f5
37.Bd7 (95.451.733) 524

24/08 5:49 -0.30-- 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Bd2 35.Bc4 (181.523.464) 519

24/32 7:22 -0.30 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 h5
37.gxh5 Rg5+ 38.Kh2 Rxh5+ 39.Kg3 Kg7
40.Bc6 Nc5 41.Nc2 f5 42.Nxb4 axb4
43.f3 Nd3 44.fxe4 Nxb2 (232.353.389) 524

25/16 8:15 -0.31 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Nd2 35.Kh2 h5 36.h4 Kg7
37.Kg3 Rc8 38.f3 Bd6+ 39.f4 (259.543.012) 524

26/25 22:36 -0.31 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 h5 39.Rd7 hxg4
40.Nd6 Rc2 41.Nxf7 Kg7 42.Ne5+ Kf6
43.Nxg4+ Ke6 (730.211.084) 538

27/25 24:48 -0.31 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 h5 39.Rd7 hxg4
40.Nd6 Rc2 41.Nxf7 Kg7 42.Ne5+ Kf6
43.Nxg4+ Ke6 (797.571.880) 535

28/24 29:19 -0.31 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 h5 39.Rd7 hxg4
40.Nd6 Rc2 41.Nxf7 Kg7 42.Ne5+ Kf6
43.Nxg4+ (934.529.227) 531

29/17 37:09 -0.31 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 h5 39.Rd7 hxg4 (1.176.407.523) 527

30/07 74:24 -0.34 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 Nd2 (2.396.293.215) 536

31/16 141:47 -0.34 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 Kg7 39.Ne3 (4.547.370.005) 534

32/16 192:25 -0.34 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 Kg7 39.Ne3 (6.115.142.609) 529

33/16 243:35 -0.34 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 Kg7 39.Ne3 (7.712.268.491) 527

34/18 489:57 -0.32 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 Rg5 39.Kg3 Kg7
40.Kf4 (15.828.620.039) 538

35/18 539:31 -0.32 31...Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.Bxf6 gxf6
34.Ne3 f5 35.g4 fxg4 36.hxg4 Bd2
37.Nc4 Bb4 38.Kg2 Rg5 39.Kg3 Kg7
40.Kf4 (17.323.149.779) 535
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zullil
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Re: houdini

Post by zullil »

NATIONAL12 wrote:to clarify above.

my last move was 30...Bb4 i spent many hours checking every defense on a 12 core computer and cannot improve on the following line

31.Bf4 Rc2 32.Be5 Rc5 33.F4!! and i doubt anyone on this forum could find this move it is incredibly deep,just know my opponent will find it.
Stockfish-2.1.1 (8 threads):

Code: Select all

Searching: 2r3k1/5pp1/5n1p/pB6/Pb2p3/1n2B2P/1P3PP1/3R1NK1/ w - -
infinite: 1 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 1   +0.48   00:00      91  Ng3 
 2   +0.36   00:00     369  Ng3 Rc2 Rd8+ Kh7 
 3   +0.36   00:00     624  Ng3 Rc2 Rd8+ Kh7 
 4   +0.16   00:00    1105  Ng3 Rc2 Rd8+ Kh7 f3 
 5   +0.04   00:00    1795  Ng3 Rc2 Rd8+ Kh7 f3 Be7 
 6   +0.28   00:00    7555  Bf4 Rc5 Rd8+ Kh7 Ne3 Rc1+ Kh2 g5 
 7   +0.44   00:00   10848  Bf4 Kh7 Ne3 Nh5 Bd6 Bxd6 Rxd6 Rc1+ Kh2 
 8   +0.36   00:00   16164  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ng3 f5 Rd8+ Kg7 
 9   +0.20   00:00   35725  Bf4 Nh5 Be5 Rc5 Bh2 Rc2 Ne3 Rxb2 Be5 Ra2 Rd7 
10   +0.20   00:00   45100  Bf4 Nh5 Be5 Rc5 Bh2 Rc2 Ne3 Rxb2 Be5 Ra2 Rd8+ Kh7 
                            Bc4 
11   +0.36   00:00   65923  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Nd2 g3 Kg7 Be2 Rc8 
                            Nf5+ Kg6 
12   +0.44   00:00  101849  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Nd2 g3 Nf3+ Kg2 Ne1+ 
                            Kf1 Nf3 Nd5 Nd2+ Rxd2 Bxd2 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Rc1+ Ke2 
13   +0.28   00:00  305108  Bf4 Nh5 Be5 Rc5 Rd8+ Kh7 Re8 f6 Bh2 f5 Re5 Nf6 Rxc5 
                            Nxc5 Ne3 Kg6 g4 fxg4 hxg4 
14   +0.53   00:00  726039  Bf4 Kh7 Ne3 Rc1 Bc4 Rxd1+ Nxd1 Nd4 Be5 Ne6 Nc3 Kg6 
                            Bxe6 fxe6 Bxf6 Kxf6 Nxe4+ Ke5 
15   +0.44   00:00   1376K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Bd2 Nc4 Bf4 g3 Be5 
                            Nd6 Bxd6 Rxd6 Kg7 
16   +0.57   00:01   1503K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Bd2 Nc4 Bf4 g3 Be5 
                            Kg2 Kf8 Re1 Nd4 Rxe4 Nxb5 axb5 Rxb5 
17   +0.48   00:01   2455K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Kg2 Kg7 Bd7 
                            Kf6 h4 Nc4 Nd5+ Ke5 Nxb4 axb4 
18   +0.57   00:01   3036K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 f4 gxf4 
                            Nc4 Rd4 Nxe3 fxe3 Rc2 b3 Rb2 Rxe4 Rxb3 
19   +0.40   00:01   5389K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Nd2 g4 h5 Kg2 Kg7 Kg3 
                            Kg6 Bd7 hxg4 hxg4 Kg5 Be8 Kg6 Bb5 Kg5 Nf5 Nf3 
20   +0.65   00:03  13541K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Bc5 Nh5 Be7 Re1 Rc5 Ng3 Re5 Nxe4 Nxb3 
21   +0.65   00:03  14586K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Bc5 Nh5 Rb2 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bxe4 
                            Bxf2+ Kf1 Bc5 Bd5 f5 Be6 Kf6 
22   +0.57   00:03  16426K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Bc5 Nh5 Rb2 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bxe4 
                            Bxf2+ Kf1 Bc5 Rd5 Bb4 Rd7 Kf6 Bd5 
23   +0.53   00:04  19147K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Rb2 Nh5 Rxb3 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bxe4 
                            Rb2 Rd5 
24   +0.57   00:04  22875K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Rb2 Nh5 Bc5 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bxe4 
                            Bxf2+ Kf1 Bc5 Bd5 Rc2 g4 Kf6 Bc4 Ke7 Re1+ Kd6 
25   +0.57   00:05  27590K  Bf4 Kh7 Ng3 Rc5 Bd6 Rc8 Be5 Nd2 Bxf6 gxf6 Bd7 Rc2 
                            Bf5+ Kg8 b3 Rb2 Nh5 Bc5 Nxf6+ Kg7 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bxe4 
                            Bxf2+ Kf1 Bc5 Bd5 Rc2 g4 Kf6 Bc4 Ke7 Re1+ Kd6 
26   +0.61   00:13  88930K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 f4 gxf4 
                            Nc4 Nxc4 Rxc4 Bf5 Kg7 Kg2 Be7 b3 Rb4 Rd5 Rxb3 Bxe4 
                            Rb4 Re5 Kf6 
27   +0.53   00:16 114549K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Bd2 Nc4 Rd5 Kf1 
                            Rd4 Nxd2 Rxd2 Rxd2 Nxd2+ Ke2 Nf3 Ke3 Kg7 Kf4 Kf6 g4 
                            Ng5 gxf5 Nxh3+ Kxe4 Nxf2+ Kf4 h5 Bc4 
28   +0.69   00:24 177086K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Bd2 Nc4 Bb4 g3 Kg7 
                            Kg2 Rc7 Rd5 Bc5 h4 Kg6 h5+ Kg7 Rd7 Rxd7 Bxd7 Bd4 
                            Nd6 Kf8 Nxe4 Ke7 Bf5 Bxb2 f4 
29   +0.61   00:31 225483K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Kf6 Kg2 
                            Bd2 Nc4 Bb4 h4 Be1 Rd6+ Kg7 Rd1 Bb4 Rd7 Kf6 Rd6+ 
                            Kg7 Rd8 Kf6 Ne3 Ke7 Rd5 Rxd5 Nxd5+ Kd6 Nxb4 axb4 
                            Bc4 
30   +0.61   00:42 312470K  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Nd2 Be2 
                            Nf3+ Bxf3 exf3 Rd3 Rc1+ Kh2 Kg6 g4 f4 Nd5 Bd6 Rxf3 
                            Kg5 Kg2 Rc2 Nc3 Be5 Ne4+ Kg6 Rd3 Bxb2 Rd6+ Kg7 
31   +0.69   02:09   1016M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Kf6 Kg2 
                            Bd2 Nc4 Bc1 h4 h5 Rd6+ Ke7 Ra6 Nd4 Rxa5 Nxb5 b3 
                            Rxc4 bxc4 Nd6 c5 Nc4 Rb5 e3 Rb7+ Ke6 
32   +0.65   02:41   1263M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke7 h5 Kf6 Re8 
33   +0.48   04:54   2362M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Rd8+ Kh7 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 Rc1+ Kh2 Nc5 
                            Nd5 Be1 Nxf6+ Kg6 Rd6 Kg7 Nh5+ Kf8 Rd8+ Ke7 Re8+ 
                            Kd6 Nf6 Bxf2 Nxe4+ Nxe4 Rxe4 Rc2 Rf4 Rxb2 Rf6+ Ke7 
                            Rxh6 Be3 Rh4 Rb4 Rh8 Bf4+ Kg1 Rb2 Ra8 Bc7 
34   +0.65   06:35   3201M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke7 h5 Kf6 Rg8 Ke5 
35   +0.61   07:14   3514M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke7 Bd1 Rd5 Rh7+ Kf6 Be2 Kg6 
36   +0.61   08:41   4242M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke7 Bd1 Rd5 Rh7+ Kf6 Be2 Kg6 
37   +0.53   15:57   7906M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Rd8+ Kh7 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g4 fxg4 
                            hxg4 Rc1+ Kg2 Nc5 Bc4 Nxa4 Bxf7 Bc5 Bd5 Bxe3 fxe3 
                            Nxb2 Bxe4+ Kg7 Rd6 Nc4 Rg6+ Kf8 Rxh6 Nxe3+ Kf3 Nc4 
                            Bd5 Ne5+ Kf4 Nd3+ Ke4 Nf2+ Kf3 Rc5 
38   +0.44   31:33  15736M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Na1 Bc4 
                            Nc2 b3 Nxe3 fxe3 Rc6 Kg2 Kg6 Bxf7+ Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Kf2 
                            Rd6 Bb5 Rxd7 Bxd7 Bd6 Bc6 Ke6 Bb5 Be5 
39   +0.65   48:36  24519M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke7 Bd1 Rd5 Rh7+ Kd6 Be2 Rc5 
40   +0.61   55:33  28106M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Kg7 Rd7 Bd2 Nc4 
                            Bb4 Kg2 Kf6 h4 Be1 Ne3 Bd2 Bc4 Bxe3 Bxb3 Bc1 Rxf7+ 
                            Ke5 Rh7 Kd6 Rh8 Ke5 Kf1 Kf6 Ke2 Kg7 Rg8+ Kh7 Be6 
                            Bxb2 Rc8 Re5 Rc6 Bd4 
41   +0.57 1:38:15  50235M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 
42   +0.57 1:53:03  57957M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 f5 h4 
43   +0.57 2:14:07  68963M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 f5 h4 Kd7 
44   +0.57 2:49:28  87526M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 f5 h4 Kd7 
45   +0.57 4:03:59 126653M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 f5 h4 Kd7 
46   +0.57 5:48:18 182200M  Bf4 Rc2 Be5 Rc5 Bxf6 gxf6 Ne3 f5 g3 Nd2 Bd7 Nc4 
                            Nxc4 Rxc4 Bxf5 Bc5 b3 Rc3 Rd5 Rxg3+ Kf1 Rc3 Bxe4 
                            Bb4 Rd3 Rxd3 Bxd3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Bc4 Bc5 Bd5 Ke7 f4 f6 
                            Bc4 f5 Bd3 Ke6 Ba6
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Carlos Ylich
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Location: Brazil

Re: houdini

Post by Carlos Ylich »

Each player should play their games. What you want is just that
we analyze your games.
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FWCC
Posts: 117
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:39 pm

Re: houdini

Post by FWCC »

Houdini generally overoptimistic anyway.

FWCC
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NATIONAL12
Posts: 305
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:31 pm
Location: bristol,uk

Re: houdini

Post by NATIONAL12 »

i have been told off by TD of WBCCC for posting position,which i accept, however my opponent chose a diff move in 31.Ng3 so this does not stop you guys posting AN.

my line was 33.f4 Rc2 Kh2 Bc5 after which Rybka's evals started low and continued to climb to over 0.60 and increasing with every depth.i hasten to add this is with very powerful computer and mid 30's with Rybka.

remember guys we are talking corr chess here and not 60 min evals.
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Roger Brown
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Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:22 pm

Re: houdini

Post by Roger Brown »

Hello Paul,

If this is a live correspondence game should you be doing this?

It seems a bit dubious to ask for assistance in analysing positions on a forum. Kind of pointless too, considering the machines one has access to nowadays...

Later.
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