Fritz 13: “Let’s Check”

[Evert]

Number of unique positions of chess: 10 to the 120th power: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I think this estimate is far too large.

[Laskos]

Number of unique positions of chess: 10 to the 120th power: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I think this estimate is far too large.

Yes, but a quantity of 10^25 - 10^30 of chess positions encountered in actual high quality possible games is reasonable. No database will cover it with any useful analysis in foreseeable future, for dozens of years.

Kai

[M ANSARI]

Some moves will lose by force and thus there is no need to calculate every possible iteration of moves. For example pretty soon if someone plays d4 and you answer with a5, you will quickly lose that game no matter what move you play after. Although that is not the best example, it does show that a collection of super high quality moves will be necessary to avoid immediate defeat, and you do not need every single possible move that can be played ... you only need the moves that survive the position.

[rlsuth]

Cloud crashing in 3...2...1

[Laskos]

Some moves will lose by force and thus there is no need to calculate every possible iteration of moves. For example pretty soon if someone plays d4 and you answer with a5, you will quickly lose that game no matter what move you play after. Although that is not the best example, it does show that a collection of super high quality moves will be necessary to avoid immediate defeat, and you do not need every single possible move that can be played ... you only need the moves that survive the position.

That's why I reduced from >10^60 to a square root or less. 10^25 - 10^30 are explicitly the number of unique positions occurring only in _high_quality_games_, otherwise take the square or more.

Kai

[Hugo]

Hi All

dont discusst this feature into ground before it is released. Thats not nice.
Give it a space to grow, I think it is a good idea.
Who the hell needs 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
and more of possible_high_quality_super_grandmaster_LOL_games?? All > 2600 players here? or what?
"let's check" can be a usefull intresting feature for >80% of chess players.

C. Keck

[Laskos]

Hi All

dont discusst this feature into ground before it is released. Thats not nice.
Give it a space to grow, I think it is a good idea.
Who the hell needs 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
and more of possible_high_quality_super_grandmaster_LOL_games?? All > 2600 players here? or what?
"let's check" can be a usefull intresting feature for >80% of chess players.

C. Keck

Sorry, one has to pay for this probably useless feature, maybe even as a periodical subscription (no one clarified that), therefore if something is not nice, then I guess it's not me...

Kai

[fern]

In fact we do not even need a modest database.
I love childish programs with voices, comments, sounds and the rest.
My profession is writing, not playing
To play chess is just like to drink a beer.
I do not need a databse of brands and global history about beer to taste one.

Fern

[Hugo]

Hi All

dont discusst this feature into ground before it is released. Thats not nice.
Give it a space to grow, I think it is a good idea.
Who the hell needs 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
and more of possible_high_quality_super_grandmaster_LOL_games?? All > 2600 players here? or what?
"let's check" can be a usefull intresting feature for >80% of chess players.

C. Keck

Sorry, one has to pay for this probably useless feature, maybe even as a periodical subscription (no one clarified that), therefore if something is not nice, then I guess it's not me...

Kai

On this planet money rules..... this is not nice.
Emancipate yourself from money slavery. Too much arguments are based on money. I am no Shreik...for sure, but money you will not find as an argument in my posts.

kind regards, Clemens

[Laskos]

Hi All

dont discusst this feature into ground before it is released. Thats not nice.
Give it a space to grow, I think it is a good idea.
Who the hell needs 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
and more of possible_high_quality_super_grandmaster_LOL_games?? All > 2600 players here? or what?
"let's check" can be a usefull intresting feature for >80% of chess players.

C. Keck

Sorry, one has to pay for this probably useless feature, maybe even as a periodical subscription (no one clarified that), therefore if something is not nice, then I guess it's not me...

Kai

On this planet money rules..... this is not nice.
Emancipate yourself from money slavery. Too much arguments are based on money. I am no Shreik...for sure, but money you will not find as an argument in my posts.

kind regards, Clemens

I have only arguments based on money, some others are getting money properly with silly arguments. Besides that, it's not me who began talking about what is nice and what is not, I just stated the argued fact that the ads cannot correspond to a reality.

Kai