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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by kranium » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:46 pm

mhalstern wrote:What does untuned mean and why is everybody claiming Strelka 5 is untuned?
Testing to determine optimal search/eval, etc. parameters...
people are saying it's 'untuned' because Jury himself said it was 'untuned'
(see his release 'blurb')

I guess this is his way of saying it can/may become even stronger with time and effort in this regard...

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by Jouni » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:04 pm

Strelka is extremely strong: Quick match vs Komodo (64b!):

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1   Strelka 5 +147  1½111½1½11110½½½0½1½½1½½1½1101  21.0/30
2   Komodo 3  -147  0½000½0½00001½½½1½0½½0½½0½0010   9.0/30

S5 evaluation is interesting, many times +5-8 when Komodo is still in +1-2 !? Ingo is IPON run soon started?

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by geots » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:10 pm

Desperado wrote:Hello George,

i think "arrow" is just the translation of the russian word "strelka"...


Thanks, Michael. Versions are coming from every direction- I thought we might have another new one.


Best,

George

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by geots » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:13 pm

Daniel Shawul wrote:I find this translation hilarious :)



At least now I see why Graham's Strelka logo has the guy with the bow. I had not made the connection.


gts

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by walter koroljow » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:16 am

Russian has diminutive forms of nouns -- "My dear little XXX." One would use these to talk to a lover, a child, pet, etc., as in "My dear little sweetie." I assume other Slavic languages do the same. So:

Rybka = my dear little fish;
Strelka = my dear little arrow.

P.S. "Vodka" is the diminutive of "Voda", which means "Water".

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by lkaufman » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:33 am

Jouni wrote:Strelka is extremely strong: Quick match vs Komodo (64b!):

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1   Strelka 5 +147  1½111½1½11110½½½0½1½½1½½1½1101  21.0/30
2   Komodo 3  -147  0½000½0½00001½½½1½0½½0½½0½0010   9.0/30

S5 evaluation is interesting, many times +5-8 when Komodo is still in +1-2 !? Ingo is IPON run soon started?

Jouni
What was the time limit? Houdini 1.5 32 bit also clobbers Komodo 3 at super-fast levels but not at the levels the testers use.

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by Jouni » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:09 pm

I used game in 1 minute level. And yes with game in 3 minutes Komodo improves a lot and scores almost 50%. But still great result for 32b Strelka.

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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by mclane » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:14 pm

strelka 5 is not only strong, it plays amazing games with amazing evaluations.

a mixture out of THE KING (johan de koning) and CSTAL (c.whittington) and Nimzo (chrilly donninger) in aggressive mode,
with evaluations few times bigger then the opponent program, so similar like mchess or CSTAL.

when the normal rybka-clones all have an evaluation that is LOWER than normal , strelka comes with speculative/full-moon-scores.

a very interesting program.


the way it organizes SPACE and TIME on the board reminds me very much on the king.

the opponent is often paralyzed. often the opponents are not coming above the 4th or even 3rd rank while strelka attacks like hell.

wow !!

congratulations. this is really cool and unsound chess.
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Re: Strelka 5 by Yuriy Osipov

Post by mclane » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:25 pm

kranium wrote:
mhalstern wrote:What does untuned mean and why is everybody claiming Strelka 5 is untuned?
Testing to determine optimal search/eval, etc. parameters...
people are saying it's 'untuned' because Jury himself said it was 'untuned'
(see his release 'blurb')

I guess this is his way of saying it can/may become even stronger with time and effort in this regard...

maybe there is a new feature in the program that is yet not much tuned.

the program PLAYS like there is something unique in it.

but ---- i would not say that this new feature needs to be tuned. it plays like hell and i like it much.

it plays much different like other chess programs i have in the moment.

it is not playing like houdini, not playing like rybka or any other program i know.
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Re: Bravo Jury !

Post by Sylwy » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:44 am

mclane wrote:
kranium wrote:
mhalstern wrote:What does untuned mean and why is everybody claiming Strelka 5 is untuned?
Testing to determine optimal search/eval, etc. parameters...
people are saying it's 'untuned' because Jury himself said it was 'untuned'
(see his release 'blurb')

I guess this is his way of saying it can/may become even stronger with time and effort in this regard...

maybe there is a new feature in the program that is yet not much tuned.

the program PLAYS like there is something unique in it.

but ---- i would not say that this new feature needs to be tuned. it plays like hell and i like it much.

it plays much different like other chess programs i have in the moment.

it is not playing like houdini, not playing like rybka or any other program i know.
Jawohl Thorsten !

Tomorrow I'll post here the result of a test match against Deep Rybka 4 (120 games , blitz 4"+2"). Rybka is alredy crushed. 8 victories in a range for S5 - I haven't seen that before !
You are right , Strelka 5 is an amazing chess engine. I observed a lot of games. Played with Rybka like a match mouse-cat ! :lol:
Something is very particular in this engine.For sure the evaluation !

Bravo Jury ! And......I'm very serious ! You give us a great engine ! Strelka 5 remains on my computers.

SilvianR

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:lol: In Strelka veritas ! :lol:

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