Houdini wrote: Laskos wrote:
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Program Score % Elo + - Draws
1 Houdini 1.5a w32 : 1242.5/2300 54.0 3214 11 11 35.9 %
2 Strelka 5 : 1057.5/2300 46.0 3186 11 11 35.9 %
It rocks, only 28 +/ -11 Elo points weaker than Houdini, clearly the second strongest program, and an untuned one! Now Yuri, tune it!
"It rocks", LOL. People's reactions to Strelka are hilarious.
Jury literally said: "I mostly made a Houdini 1.5a copy, I apologize to Robert Houdart".
You have verified the author's claim by means of the similarity detector - I guess that Strelka 5 is actually closer to Houdini 1.5 than Houdini 2 is.
So in what way exactly does "it rock", what exactly is the merit of making a copy that is 30 Elo weaker than the original?
Now, with a better compile, Strelka 5 is ~15 Elo points weaker than Houdini 1.5 (both 32 and 64 bit versions). First, I said that it rocks without knowing just how much similar it is to Houdini 1.5, its evaluation is a bit crazy and dissimilar to anything. Second, I hope Yuri finally will release it as an open source. Third, I was not very much pleased that you went commercial, at the same time I have nothing fundamentally against it, you spent many hours on Houdini's development.
The advent of banned for a long time on CCC (how stupid they are?) open source Ippos is really a revolution in top CC programming (and not yet a fully assimilated one). There is also Stockfish to inspire people (based on my similarity tester, very few are using its sources, maybe they are modifying them beyond recognition). If Strelka 5 sources will appear, it would mean another, smaller revolution. Yuri writes very compact, readable sources, no wonder his Strelka 2.0 sources were copied by some well-known commercial authors. Strelka 2.0 is not totally a Rybka 1 RE, he basically got what he needed from Rybka 1, then completed it with Fruit 2.1, then tuned it.
You have to admit, Vas was hacked, you will be too, and it's much better if Yuri does this. Imagine a Saint in Hyattian or CCC books doing this, without any intention of releasing the sources, selling it and so on. Then go prove something to "I don't have time to check every Saint".