[D]r1b2rk1/2qp1pp1/ppnNp2p/4P3/P1P1BQ2/8/1B3PPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 21
Ra3....Chess Master 2200X fiinds this in 6 ply....about 80 seconds...
Turbo432....after about 30 minutes only plays Rf1-d1...
Dedicated Chess Move Test....
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test...
Hello:
I guess that things have changed a lot in those years! Infinite analysis (interrupted at 15 minutes) by StockFish 2.1.1 w32 (2 cores), using 1 GB of hash:
[d]r1b2rk1/2qp1pp1/ppnNp2p/4P3/P1P1BQ2/8/1B3PPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1
The last official release of StockFish finds Ra3 in 0.765 seconds [11524 nodes/(15064 nodes/second)] at depth 5/5 in my system... so it will be faster in better hardware.
I have observed one issue in my system (Intel Pentium D930): the final slowdown in search speed (in terms of nodes/second). It happens with all the engines I have; this issue does not happen when I run Houdini 1.5a w32 in console mode in an Intel i5-760. Why? I only run StockFish (or other engine) under Arena 2.0.1, without more programmes.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
I guess that things have changed a lot in those years! Infinite analysis (interrupted at 15 minutes) by StockFish 2.1.1 w32 (2 cores), using 1 GB of hash:
[d]r1b2rk1/2qp1pp1/ppnNp2p/4P3/P1P1BQ2/8/1B3PPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1
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Stockfish-211-32-ja:
1/1 00:00 407 554 +6,34 Bb2c1
2/2 00:00 1.284 1.749 +6,06 Ra1d1 Bc8b7
3/3 00:00 1.942 2.645 +6,18 Ra1d1 Bc8b7 Bb2c1
4/4 00:00 5.350 7.133 +6,10 Ra1d1 Bc8b7 Bb2c3 Ra8d8
5/5 00:00 11.524 15.064 +6,66 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 g7g5 Qf4f3
6/6 00:00 20.081 25.195 +8,64 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 g7g5 Qf4h4 Kg8g7
7/8 00:00 22.348 28.040 +8,84 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 g7g5 Qf4h4 f7f5 e5xf6/ep
8/11 00:00 27.498 33.864 +8,92 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 g7g5 Qf4f6 Nc6a5 Nd6xb7 Na5xb7 Qf6xh6
9/12 00:00 54.945 63.963 +9,81 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Ra8b8 Rf1b1 f7f5 e5xf6/ep Qc7xd6 Rg3xg7+ Kg8h8
10/12 00:00 62.212 71.099 +9,81 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Ra8b8 Rf1b1 f7f5 e5xf6/ep Qc7xd6 Rg3xg7+ Kg8h8
11/18 00:01 170.438 160.487 +9,29 Ra1a3 Ra8a7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Qf4h4 Ne7g6 Qh4g4 Kg8h8 Nd6xf7+ Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Kh8g8
12/22 00:01 341.616 260.378 +10,86 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Ra8c8 Qe4h4 Kg8h8 Nd6xc8 Rf8xc8 Qh4g4
13/22 00:01 668.707 378.870 +11,35 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Qc7c6 Qe4g4 g7g6 Qg4h4 Kg8h7 Bd4e3 h6h5 Qh4f6 Kh7g8
14/22 00:02 1.424.545 509.311 +12,08 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Ra8c8 Qe4g4 g7g6 Qg4h4 Kg8h7 Bd4e3 h6h5 Qh4f4 Kh7g8 Qf4h6 Qc7b8 Rf1b1 Rc8c6 c4c5 h5h4 Qh6xh4
15/26 00:03 1.846.553 532.454 +12,00 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6d4 Bb2xd4 Bb7xe4 Qf4xe4 Ra8c8 Qe4g4 g7g6 Qg4h4 Kg8h7 Qh4e7 Qc7d8 Nd6xc8 Qd8xc8 Bd4xb6
16/26 00:06 3.942.701 638.804 +12,84 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Ra8b8 Bb7e4 Rb8e8 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Kg8f8 Bb2a3+ Re8e7 Rf1b1 Kf8e8 Ba3xe7 Ke8xe7
17/29 00:09 6.630.719 692.286 +13,37 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xa8 Ne7g6 Qf4e3 a6a5 Ba8e4 Qd8h4 Qe3xb6 Ng6f4 Be4f3 Nf4d3 Bb2c3 Qh4f4 Qb6xa5
18/29 00:11 8.104.911 694.389 +13,13 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Qc7d8 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Ra8c8 Bb7e4 Kg8f8 Bb2a3+ Rc8c5 Ba3xc5+ b6xc5 Qg6h7 Qd8c7 Qh7h8+ Kf8e7 Rg3xg7 Rf7xg7 Qh8xg7+ Ke7e8
19/34 00:16 12.149.589 717.340 +13,73 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xa8 Ne7g6 Qf4e3 Qd8h4 Ba8e4 Ng6f4 Bb2d4 g7g6 Rf1b1 Kg8h8 Bd4xb6 g6g5 h2h3 Kh8g8 Bb6d4
20/34 00:22 16.606.854 726.490 +13,65 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Ra8e8 Bb7e4 Re8e7 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Rf7f5 Be4xf5 e6xf5 Qg6xh6 a6a5 Qh6f4 Re7f7 Rf1d1
21/34 00:31 23.125.232 742.621 +13,89 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xa8 Ne7g6 Qf4e3 Qd8h4 Ba8e4 a6a5 Qe3xb6 Qh4d8 Qb6xd8 Rf8xd8 Bb2c3 Rd8f8 f2f4 Bc8a6 Bc3xa5 Rf8b8 Nd6xf7 Kg8xf7 Be4xg6+ Kf7e7 Bg6e4
22/38 01:10 53.552.706 754.763 +14,78 Ra1a3 Qc7d8 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xa8 Ne7g6 Qf4e3 Qd8h4 Ba8e4 a6a5 Qe3xb6 Qh4d8 Qb6xd8 Rf8xd8 Bb2c3 Rd8f8 Rf1b1 Ng6f4 Rg3e3 Nf4h5 Rb1b8 Bc8a6 Rb8b6 Ba6c8 Bc3xa5 f7f5 Be4c2 g7g6 Re3f3 Kg8g7 Ba5d2
23/38 01:21 60.896.239 745.482 +14,58 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Ra8e8 Bb7e4 Re8e7 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Rf7f5 Qg6xh6 a6a5 Qh6g6 Re7f7 Be4xf5 e6xf5 Qg6h5 Rf7e7 Rg3h3
24/38 05:53 162.756.019 460.474 +16,64 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ra8a7 Bb7e4 Qc7d8 Qf4xh6 Ne7g6 Qh6h5 Qd8h4 Be4xg6 Qh4xh5 Bg6xh5 g7g6 Bb2d4 Ra7a8 Bh5f3 Ra8b8 Bf3b7 a6a5 Rf1b1 Kg8g7 Bb7e4 Rf8h8 Bd4xb6 Rh8h4 Bb6xa5 Rb8xb1+ Be4xb1
25/38 12:05 264.567.127 364.511 +16,96 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Ra8e8 Bb7e4 Re8e7 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Rf7f5 Qg6xh6 Re7f7 Be4xf5 e6xf5 Qh6h4 Rf7f8 Rg3h3 Qc7c6 Bb2a3 Rf8c8 Qh4h7+ Kg8f7 Qh7xf5+
26/38 15:01 312.538.109 346.752 +17,21 Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3g3 Nc6e7 Be4xb7 Ne7g6 Qf4g4 Ra8e8 Bb7e4 Re8e7 Nd6xf7 Rf8xf7 Qg4xg6 Rf7f5 Qg6xh6 Re7f7 Be4xf5 e6xf5 Qh6h4 Rf7f8 Rg3h3 Qc7c6 Bb2a3 Rf8c8 Qh4h7+ Kg8f7 Qh7xf5+
I have observed one issue in my system (Intel Pentium D930): the final slowdown in search speed (in terms of nodes/second). It happens with all the engines I have; this issue does not happen when I run Houdini 1.5a w32 in console mode in an Intel i5-760. Why? I only run StockFish (or other engine) under Arena 2.0.1, without more programmes.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Ra3 is the only logical move. It forces the win. The Turbo 432 is very old and very slow by todays standard. Not sure why, outside of amusement to test it with this position or to show how far computer chess has come.rightrook wrote:[D]r1b2rk1/2qp1pp1/ppnNp2p/4P3/P1P1BQ2/8/1B3PPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 21
Ra3....Chess Master 2200X fiinds this in 6 ply....about 80 seconds...
Turbo432....after about 30 minutes only plays Rf1-d1...
What game is this position from? It's very familiar or at least the pattern is.
Terry McCracken
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Sticking to the topic:
Novag Sapphire II sees Ra3 in 90 seconds at 6 ply.
Novag Sapphire II sees Ra3 in 90 seconds at 6 ply.
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
By today's standards, this is not a real challenge for chess engines!rightrook wrote:[D]r1b2rk1/2qp1pp1/ppnNp2p/4P3/P1P1BQ2/8/1B3PPP/R4RK1 w - - 0 21
Ra3....Chess Master 2200X fiinds this in 6 ply....about 80 seconds...
Turbo432....after about 30 minutes only plays Rf1-d1...
My lousy engine DoubleCheck, finds Ra3 after 135k nodes only:
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info score cp 319 depth 8 nodes 135131 time 430 pv Ra1a3 Bc8b7 Ra3f3 Nc6a5 Be4xb7 Na5xb7 Nd6xf7
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Hi Terry.......the game was an engine match...Fritz 12 vrs Doctor?3.0
BTW, Turbo432 did find it in about one hour and 15 min.
Yes, I set up this test to see how much the computers have improved over the years....
regards
Robert
BTW, Turbo432 did find it in about one hour and 15 min.
Yes, I set up this test to see how much the computers have improved over the years....
regards
Robert
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Here is the game..only 30 moves...
[Event "ROBERT, Blitz 5m"]
[Site "Marlton"]
[Date "2011.11.25"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Fritz 12"]
[Black "Doctor? 3.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A45"]
[Annotator "0.41;0.03"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
{AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ 2405 MHz W=14.3 plies; 1,173kN/s B=12.3
plies; 17kN/s} 1. d4 {0.41/17 26 Both last book move} Nf6 {0.03/14 7} 2. Nc3 {
0.25/17 30 (Bf4)} e6 {0.03/15 8} 3. e4 {0.46/16 6 (e3)} Bb4 {0.08/13 12} 4. Bd3
{0.49/15 0 (Bg5)} c5 {-0.01/12 8} 5. dxc5 {0.56/16 3 (Be3)} Bxc3+ {-0.01/12 6
(Nc6)} 6. bxc3 {0.80/15 4} Qa5 {-0.01/14 4 (Nc6)} 7. Ne2 {0.89/17 24} Qxc5 {-0.
03/18 0} 8. O-O {0.95/16 14 (Be3)} O-O {-0.04/13 7 (Nc6)} 9. a4 {0.79/16 14
(Be3)} Qc7 {-0.08/13 6} 10. Ba3 {0.67/15 13} Re8 {-0.15/16 0 (d6)} 11. Nd4 {1.
02/17 17 (f3)} Qxc3 {-0.29/13 6 (a6)} 12. Nb5 {3.31/17 6} Qc6 {-0.29/14 0 (Qa5)
} 13. e5 {4.07/17 2 (Nd6)} Nd5 {-0.17/14 7} 14. Qh5 {4.81/17 0 (Nd6)} h6 {-0.
14/13 7} 15. Be4 {5.39/17 12 (Nd6)} a6 {0.36/12 8 (Qb6)} 16. Nd6 {6.91/14 1}
Rf8 {2.01/13 5} 17. c4 {6.99/15 0} Nf4 {2.74/12 6} 18. Qf3 {7.13/15 0} Qc7 {2.
76/13 7 (Nh3+)} 19. Qxf4 {7.15/13 1} Nc6 {2.70/11 4} 20. Bb2 {7.19/14 4} b6 {
2.67/12 2 (Qd8)} 21. Ra3 {10.66/14 3 (Rfd1)} Qd8 {2.84/10 6 (Bb7)} 22. Rg3 {13.
22/13 1 (Rd1)} g5 {5.90/12 7 (Ne7)} 23. h4 {15.55/14 1} Ne7 {6.79/10 6} 24.
hxg5 {19.11/16 0 (Bxa8)} h5 {9.35/11 7 (Ng6)} 25. g6 {#10/9 0 (Bxa8)} fxg6 {#7/
12 1 (Nxg6)} 26. Qh6 {#8/8 0} Qe8 {#6/4 0 (Rf5)} 27. Nxe8 {#6/7 0} Rf7 {#4/6 0}
28. Bxg6 {#3/7 0} Nxg6 {#2/1 0 (Bb7)} 29. Rxg6+ {#2/7 0} Rg7 {#1/0 0} 30. Qxg7#
{#1/7 0} 1-0
[Event "ROBERT, Blitz 5m"]
[Site "Marlton"]
[Date "2011.11.25"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Fritz 12"]
[Black "Doctor? 3.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A45"]
[Annotator "0.41;0.03"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
{AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ 2405 MHz W=14.3 plies; 1,173kN/s B=12.3
plies; 17kN/s} 1. d4 {0.41/17 26 Both last book move} Nf6 {0.03/14 7} 2. Nc3 {
0.25/17 30 (Bf4)} e6 {0.03/15 8} 3. e4 {0.46/16 6 (e3)} Bb4 {0.08/13 12} 4. Bd3
{0.49/15 0 (Bg5)} c5 {-0.01/12 8} 5. dxc5 {0.56/16 3 (Be3)} Bxc3+ {-0.01/12 6
(Nc6)} 6. bxc3 {0.80/15 4} Qa5 {-0.01/14 4 (Nc6)} 7. Ne2 {0.89/17 24} Qxc5 {-0.
03/18 0} 8. O-O {0.95/16 14 (Be3)} O-O {-0.04/13 7 (Nc6)} 9. a4 {0.79/16 14
(Be3)} Qc7 {-0.08/13 6} 10. Ba3 {0.67/15 13} Re8 {-0.15/16 0 (d6)} 11. Nd4 {1.
02/17 17 (f3)} Qxc3 {-0.29/13 6 (a6)} 12. Nb5 {3.31/17 6} Qc6 {-0.29/14 0 (Qa5)
} 13. e5 {4.07/17 2 (Nd6)} Nd5 {-0.17/14 7} 14. Qh5 {4.81/17 0 (Nd6)} h6 {-0.
14/13 7} 15. Be4 {5.39/17 12 (Nd6)} a6 {0.36/12 8 (Qb6)} 16. Nd6 {6.91/14 1}
Rf8 {2.01/13 5} 17. c4 {6.99/15 0} Nf4 {2.74/12 6} 18. Qf3 {7.13/15 0} Qc7 {2.
76/13 7 (Nh3+)} 19. Qxf4 {7.15/13 1} Nc6 {2.70/11 4} 20. Bb2 {7.19/14 4} b6 {
2.67/12 2 (Qd8)} 21. Ra3 {10.66/14 3 (Rfd1)} Qd8 {2.84/10 6 (Bb7)} 22. Rg3 {13.
22/13 1 (Rd1)} g5 {5.90/12 7 (Ne7)} 23. h4 {15.55/14 1} Ne7 {6.79/10 6} 24.
hxg5 {19.11/16 0 (Bxa8)} h5 {9.35/11 7 (Ng6)} 25. g6 {#10/9 0 (Bxa8)} fxg6 {#7/
12 1 (Nxg6)} 26. Qh6 {#8/8 0} Qe8 {#6/4 0 (Rf5)} 27. Nxe8 {#6/7 0} Rf7 {#4/6 0}
28. Bxg6 {#3/7 0} Nxg6 {#2/1 0 (Bb7)} 29. Rxg6+ {#2/7 0} Rg7 {#1/0 0} 30. Qxg7#
{#1/7 0} 1-0
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Hi Rob
long time no post
good to see you
The Legendary Mephisto Wunder Machine(with Chess Genius 5) plays
Ra3 in 3 Seconds scoring the position +6.09
6 Ply
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N ... 923814103/
Wunder Boy Regards
Steve
long time no post
good to see you
The Legendary Mephisto Wunder Machine(with Chess Genius 5) plays
Ra3 in 3 Seconds scoring the position +6.09
6 Ply
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N ... 923814103/
Wunder Boy Regards
Steve
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Re: Dedicated Chess Move Test....
Hi there Steve B.
Good to hear from you again....yes I am fine thanks...thought I would dust off some of my old machines to see if they still work.....
Take care of yourself...!
Thanks for posting...!
Rob
Good to hear from you again....yes I am fine thanks...thought I would dust off some of my old machines to see if they still work.....
Take care of yourself...!
Thanks for posting...!
Rob
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