ICCR (Independent Computer Chess Rating)

[Sedat Canbaz]

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/

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Try this one please (for me it works):
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/

Best,
Sedat

[tttony]

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/

Is offline

Try this one please (for me it works):
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/

Best,
Sedat

It's weird but still does not works for me

Firefox says: Server not found

DNS problems?? I dont know but I can't access to that sites

[Graham Banks]

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/

Is offline

Try this one please (for me it works):
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/

Best,
Sedat

It's weird but still does not works for me

Firefox says: Server not found

DNS problems?? I dont know but I can't access to that sites

I can connect to the second link using Firefox.

[Trajkoski Goran 02]

Lot of people want to be testers bat not all of them have 6 core i7. I have laptop with i7 4 core can i be taster?
I will play for example 90 min / 40 moves + 30 sec/move
The effect will be the same. Like i7 980

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

Just i'd like to inform you that:
-Due to many interest,requests...i will allow Quads too,but only with Hyper Threading OFF

Fore More Information:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/iccr/

Note:Fritz Chess Benchmark will be used for measuring the processor chess speed
For accurate testing:its strongly recommended to be used the bellow time controls:

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Hardware-Processor        Speed    Cores   kN/s   Time Control
---------------------------------------------------------------
2x Intel Xeon X5667     @ 4.60 GHz   12    28827   14m+15s
2x Intel Xeon X5680     @ 4.18 GHz   12    26276   17m+15s
2x Intel Xeon X5680     @ 4.00 GHZ   12    24293   20m+15s
Intel Core i7 3930k     @ 4.80 GHz    6    20356   28m+15s
Intel Core i7 980X      @ 4.60 GHz    6    19791   29m+15s
Intel Core i7 980X      @ 4.33 GHz    6    18709   32m+15s
2x Intel Core QX9775    @ 4.00 GHz    8    18063   33m+15s
Intel Core i7 970       @ 4.16 GHz    6    17302   36m+15s
Intel Core i7 2600K     @ 5.20 GHz    4    15516   42m+15s
2x Intel Core QX9775      3.20 GHz    8    14784   45m+15s
Intel Core i7 980X        3.33 GHz    6    14744   45m+15s
Intel Core i5 2500k     @ 4.90 GHz    4    14316   47m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T  @ 4.06 GHz    6    14012   48m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T  @ 3.80 GHz    6    13599   50m+15s
2x Intel Xeon E5472       3.00 GHz    8    13573   50m+15s
AMD FX X8 8150          @ 4.21 GHz    8    13331   52m+15s
Intel Core i5 760       @ 4.44 GHz    4    12912   54m+15s
Intel Core i5 2500k     @ 4.49 GHz    4    12784   55m+15s
Intel Core i7 920       @ 4.00 GHz    4    12454   57m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T  @ 3.60 GHz    6    12286   58m+15s
Intel Core i7 960       @ 4.00 GHz    4    11988   59m+15s
AMD FX X8 8150            3.60 GHz    8    11867   60m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T    3.30 GHz    6    11476   63m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T    3.20 GHz    6    11259   65m+15s
Intel Core i5 750       @ 3.80 GHz    4    11075   66m+15s
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.82 GHz    4    10730   69m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T    3.00 GHz    6    10601   70m+15s
Intel Core i7 2600K       3.40 GHz    4    10473   71m+15s
Intel Core i7 920       @ 3.30 GHz    4    10350   72m+15s
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.60 GHz    4    10192   73m+15s
AMD FX X8 8120            3.20 GHz    8    10019   75m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T    2.80 GHz    6    9945    75m+15s
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.40 GHz    4    9469    80m+15s
AMD Phenom II X6 1035T    2.60 GHz    6    9283    82m+15s
AMD Athlon II X4 955    @ 3.91 GHz    4    9192    83m+15s
Intel Core i7 860         2.80 GHz    4    8715    88m+15s
Intel Core 2 QX9650       3.00 GHz    4    8560    90m+15s
Intel Core i5 750         2.66 GHz    4    8335    93m+15s
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.80 GHz    4    7747   102m+15s
Intel Core 2 QX6700       2.66 GHz    4    7231   110m+15s
AMD Phenom II X4 940      3.00 GHz    4    6898   116m+15s
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600   2.40 GHz    4    6771   119m+15s
AMD Phenom X4 9700        2.40 GHz    4    5725   144m+15s
2x AMD Opteron 270        2.00 GHz    4    4581   185m+15s

Calculation Method – Time Control:
Intel Core i7 980X 3.33GHz=45m+15s (official time control)
Average Game Lenght:72 moves x15 sec = 18 Minutes
TOTAL= 45 Minutes + 18 Minutes = 63 Minutes per side (45m+15s)

Intel Core i7 980X @4.33GHz=32m+15s
Average Game Lenght:72 moves x15 sec = 18 Minutes
TOTAL= 32 Minutes + 18 Minutes = 50 Minutes per side (32m+15s)

18709 kns / 14744 kns = 1,268
63 Minutes / 1.268 = 49,68 Minutes – 18 Minutes = 32m+15s
63 Minutes / 50 Minutes = 1.26

Greetings,
Sedat

[Engin]

Hi Sedat !,

if you include only the top 20 engines or many ipp clones in your rating list then i am against it, otherwise if you be serious testing of all origin engines then go ahead.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hi Sedat !,

if you include only the top 20 engines or many ipp clones in your rating list then i am against it, otherwise if you be serious testing of all origin engines then go ahead.

Dear Engin,

First of all many thanks for your interest...

I know very well too that some chess friends will disagree with me,but this is the life - all of us see the world differently

Actually this thread is not for:
-Which chess engines are original or clones,but anyway i will try to replay you

Look what i will tell you,
During over many years i followed strictly the rules (all programs should be original work)

But later...i have changed my mind-see bellow why

And now i am asking you:
-Ok...lets say Rybka,Houdini,Ivanhoe,Fire...are clones or derivatives (not original work)

So...i have a question for you:
-How do you know 100 % that all rest chess programs are original work ???

You can not be sure for this (or any other chess expert),because you are not 100% during all of the time with the programers

My feelings say:
-In reality (in real terms),100 % original programs,which are done only with own work: are approx.30-40 (no more no less)

We should be so naive...believe me for that,of course two identical versions will be not allowed in ICCR

Some interesting notes:
-I see some chess programs,after each release the ELO difference is stronger than previous version
-I wish a lot to see a new engine,which will be stronger than Houdini (but it seems is not so easy...)
-The current releases of other engines are weaker than Houdini 2.0c (its already more than one yaer at the Top-that means a lot for me)
-Houdini is the King of the engines - Congrats again to Robert Houdart !!
-Rybka by Vasik Rajlich has a superior record-more than 4-5 years was unbeatable,i did not notice a such performance by other engine before
-Shredder,Fritz,Chess Tiger programs have also superior results in the past...
-For nowadays i see Engines with 3300 ELO:Fire,Ivanhoe,Stockfish,Critter,Komodo,Strelka...are another very strong top chess programs too,which can be Leaders in the new future

BTW,you told me in your private message that its a waste of time running SCCT Book Tournaments
Look again what i will tell you,
I respect your opinion,but i dont agree with you and looking at the Statistics Page Views:there is no less interest than my rest activities !!


Best Regards,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

EDIT:We should NOT be so naive...

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Sedat,

ratings from my latest SWCR after 158.166 games, have a look in the Komodo 4 x64 / Critter 1.4 x64 round robin thread in TalkChess.

that are my favorit TOP-20 in SWCR!
The other one are to old, same playing style, cloned, not analyse line (Thinker) or not interesting (Fritz, to boring, no UCI/WB compatible), buggy (Ktulu, Booot, Bison).

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
    4 Critter 1.4 x64                2976   23   23   800   77%  2757   33% + 21 
    5 Komodo 4.0 x64                 2968   23   23   799   77%  2757   32% + 08 
    8 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2961   17   17  1440   74%  2775   34% 
   14 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   17   17  1400   74%  2763   34%  
   51 Chiron 1.1 x64                 2827   16   16  1382   55%  2788   40% 
   60 Shredder 12 w32                2800    7    7  7621   59%  2735   37% 
   62 Sjeng c't 2010 w32             2790    8    8  5421   56%  2748   38% 
   72 Protector 1.4.0 JA x64         2768   14   13  1981   47%  2789   36% 
   73 Junior 12.5.0.3 x64            2762   13   13  2101   48%  2775   36% 
   75 Hiarcs 13.2 w32                2760   10   10  3861   50%  2758   39% 
   76 Spark 1.0 x64                  2759   12   12  2620   47%  2778   40% 
   82 Hannibal 1.1 x64               2743   14   14  1742   47%  2768   38% 
   87 Zappa Mexico II x64            2725   10   10  3939   46%  2752   39%
  103 Equinox 0.97e x64              2690   14   14  1960   39%  2773   33% 
  117 Umko 1.2 x64                   2671   15   15  1701   37%  2772   35% 
  144 Jonny 4.00 w32                 2615   10   10  3960   33%  2748   28% 
  147 Crafty 23.4 JA x64             2614   12   12  2743   29%  2779   30% 
  155 SmarThink 1.20 x64             2598   11   11  3421   31%  2751   30% 
  157 BugChess2 1.9 x64              2595   14   14  2022   31%  2747   27%   
  160 Tornado 4.40 x64               2591   14   14  2261   26%  2782   28% 

And for analyzes positions I like most this list ...
My TOP-10 in this area!

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Rank Name                            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
    4 Critter 1.4 x64                2976   23   23   800   77%  2757   33% + 21 
    5 Komodo 4.0 x64                 2968   23   23   799   77%  2757   32% + 08 
    8 IvanHoe 999946f x64            2961   17   17  1440   74%  2775   34% 
   14 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     2948   17   17  1400   74%  2763   34%  
   51 Chiron 1.1 x64                 2827   16   16  1382   55%  2788   40% 
   73 Junior 12.5.0.3 x64            2762   13   13  2101   48%  2775   36% 
   76 Spark 1.0 x64                  2759   12   12  2620   47%  2778   40% 
   82 Hannibal 1.1 x64               2743   14   14  1742   47%  2768   38% 
  155 SmarThink 1.20 x64             2598   11   11  3421   31%  2751   30% 
  157 BugChess2 1.9 x64              2595   14   14  2022   31%  2747   27%   

IvanHoe changed to 999946h x64 by PeterPan.

So far I testing here new engines too ...
Deuterium, Dirty, Gaviota, ProDeo.
Very interesting from the older one are AnMon, Aristarch.

With this 6 engines I have 4x4 engines with one core on Quad I used for analyzes of positions. Or with other words, this group of 16 engines I will used for my next activitie ...to create a new test set of positions!

With other words, most interesting engines for myself.
...
after all what I saw in SWCR in combination with all statistics I made!

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Sedat,

and here my favorit TOP-5 I would play games ...

1. Stockfish 2.1.1 JA PHQ
2. Spark 1.0 x64
3. Smarthink 1.20 x64
4. BugChess2 1.9 x64
5. AnMon 5.75

sort after ELO ...

And here sort after ... I like most ...

1. Spark 1.0 x64
2. AnMon 5.75
3. BugChess2 1.9 x64
4. Stockfish 2.1.1 JA PHQ
5. Smarthink 1.20 x64

Best
Frank