That preferred match of Stfish- Houdini would be a very interesting tactical match I think
As far for the games DJ played I found one strange loss in the first game of DJ against Stockfish.
After 37. Qf4 ? DJ is suddenly lost but after 37. g6 or Qg7 the result would be a draw because after that Rxc1 is forced and black must take the draw.
Does anyone has an explanation ?
[D] 4knR1/5p2/p2p1Q2/1p1q2P1/4p3/P7/1Pr5/1KB5 w - - 0 37
Deep Junior 13 Welcome Test
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Jouni
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Re: Deep Junior 13 Welcome Test
Yes very strange, because there are 4 drawing moves according to Critter 1.4 64-bit:
1. = (0.00): 37.Qh6 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka2 Qd5+ 41.Kb1 Qd1+ 42.Ka2 Qd5+
2. = (0.00): 37.Qh8 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka2 Qd5+ 41.Kb1 Qd1+ 42.Ka2 Qd5+
3. = (0.00): 37.Qg7 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka1 Qd1+ 41.Ka2 Qd5+ 42.Kb1 Qd1+ 43.Ka2
4. = (0.00): 37.g6 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kd2 Qd3+ 40.Ke1 Qe3+ 41.Kf1 Qd3+ 42.Kg2 Qd2+ 43.Kh3 Qe3+ 44.Kh4 Qe1+ 45.Kh5 Qh1+ 46.Kg5 Qc1+ 47.Qf4 f6+ 48.Kg4 Qd1+ 49.Kh4 Qh1+ 50.Kg3 Qg1+ 51.Kh3 Qh1+ 52.Qh2 Qd1 53.Qg3 Qh5+ 54.Kg2 Qe2+ 55.Qf2 Qg4+ 56.Qg3 Qe2+
Junior evaluates +0,35 after 24 ply and 5:50! Also against Houdini there was at least one directly losing move - someone speculates about hash collisions.
Jouni
1. = (0.00): 37.Qh6 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka2 Qd5+ 41.Kb1 Qd1+ 42.Ka2 Qd5+
2. = (0.00): 37.Qh8 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka2 Qd5+ 41.Kb1 Qd1+ 42.Ka2 Qd5+
3. = (0.00): 37.Qg7 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kb1 Qd3+ 40.Ka1 Qd1+ 41.Ka2 Qd5+ 42.Kb1 Qd1+ 43.Ka2
4. = (0.00): 37.g6 Rxc1+ 38.Kxc1 Qc4+ 39.Kd2 Qd3+ 40.Ke1 Qe3+ 41.Kf1 Qd3+ 42.Kg2 Qd2+ 43.Kh3 Qe3+ 44.Kh4 Qe1+ 45.Kh5 Qh1+ 46.Kg5 Qc1+ 47.Qf4 f6+ 48.Kg4 Qd1+ 49.Kh4 Qh1+ 50.Kg3 Qg1+ 51.Kh3 Qh1+ 52.Qh2 Qd1 53.Qg3 Qh5+ 54.Kg2 Qe2+ 55.Qf2 Qg4+ 56.Qg3 Qe2+
Junior evaluates +0,35 after 24 ply and 5:50! Also against Houdini there was at least one directly losing move - someone speculates about hash collisions.
Jouni
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Jouni
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Re: Deep Junior 13 Welcome Test
So why is test stopped? Without stop we would have already result for 60 games 
If You change conditions, please note, that Critter fills 1 GB has in 20 sec, so if there is more RAM allocate it!
Jouni
If You change conditions, please note, that Critter fills 1 GB has in 20 sec, so if there is more RAM allocate it!Jouni
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Re: Deep Junior 13 Welcome Test
Hi Jouni,
the test will continue very soon (probably today or tomorrow evening). You are right about the hash, some Junior-experts told me, that it also uses more hash when playing with >2 threads. So the new test will give 4GB hash to all engines. Time control will also be a bit adjusted.
I'll post the hyperlinks to the new test as soon as the test will have been started.
Stay tuned and best regards,
Timo
P.S.: I reported the game / position where Junior played these horrible blunder to Amir Ban (along with 2 other games where something similar happened). Maybe he can find the bug.
the test will continue very soon (probably today or tomorrow evening). You are right about the hash, some Junior-experts told me, that it also uses more hash when playing with >2 threads. So the new test will give 4GB hash to all engines. Time control will also be a bit adjusted.
I'll post the hyperlinks to the new test as soon as the test will have been started.
Stay tuned and best regards,
Timo
P.S.: I reported the game / position where Junior played these horrible blunder to Amir Ban (along with 2 other games where something similar happened). Maybe he can find the bug.