TimoK wrote:Hello Sedat,
Well, let me say it that way: For my taste there are too many Ippo-family engines around. No tester has the time to test all engines, so one has to choose. I'm testing Houdini that is clearly the strongest derivate. So I'm not very much interested in the rest of that family because I already have the strongest one. And there is another point: Because I'm Houdini customer, I'm able to get support. For any Ivanhoe or Robbolito I can't get any support from the author. Maybe I'll buy Vitruvius soon because it seems to have an interesting playing style and I'd get support because I bought a commercial product.Sedat Canbaz wrote:Sure...you did not use exactly the same words,but its quite qlear what do you mean with your 1st posting
In my opinion,all testers should be neutral and what a pity that some testers are against testing some top engines
Ok, sometimes there is a problem after a game has ended (Fritz GUI reports "Could not load engine") - maybe that has something to do with NetChess. But the performance problems you speak of never appeared in my tests. Maybe because you were testing at fast TCs and I'm only testing with slower TCs. The overhead/delay that is caused by NetChess could affect games at blitz level, but are negligible at longer TCs.Sedat Canbaz wrote:I used the Netchess adapter, which is available to public and honestly i was disappointed by the performance of some mp engines (engines were using 4 cores)
Plus,even many times i noticed many engine crashes via Netchess adapter...
Note that those Netchess's bugs (crashes,forfeits on time) are appeared in different time controls (blitz and slow)
As i mentioned before,any good program should be ok with all time controls,it does not matter-engine,utility,adapter,book...
Overall i like Netchess utility,with this tool we can run round-robin,swiss,gauntlets...
But however i think,Netchess is complicated tool (not so easy for use)
Note also that i am organizing Auto232 mode tournaments since more than 10 years
And so far (in auto232 mode) i did not notice any single crash or any single game forfeit on time
For example,nowadays i use 4m+2s,maybe for some experts this time control looks like fast,
but it depends on what hardware and with how many cores are the engines playing ?!
I mean,if we compare my current used conditions with one of my older machines,
then e.g i7 980X @4.33GHz 4m+2s probably will be equal in Elo points to Athlon 64 3400+ 100m+2s
Thats why i am still not sure how to call about SCCT Auto232's TC:fast or slow ?!
Maybe will be better to call it : 100m+2s, otherwise the chess experts will never mention SCCT
Houdini 1.5a bench:
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kN/s Mate Processor Speed Cores L.P EXE Hardware User 19389 10s Intel Core i7 980X @4.33GHz 6 ON x64 Sedat Canbaz 1109 425s AMD Athlon 64 3400+ 2.40GHz 1 OFF x64 Sedat Canbaz
SCCT - Gladiators 2010 Tournament:
SCCT 2011 (Two Computer Match):
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/tourna ... ter-match/
SCCT – Ponder OFF/ON:
I wish you good luck with your tournaments,