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Re: Budget phone

Post by Nordlandia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:59 am

Smartphone vs Desktop challenge

Question is whether Stockfish 7 on LG G3 will beat Houdini 4 Pro on Pentium E5200.

LG G3 is capable for about 1,400 Knp/s

Pentium E2000 is in the 2,000 range for Stockfish/Komodo and fairly in the 3,000 range for semi-obsolete H4 Pro.

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Re: Budget phone

Post by mclane » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:50 am

Lion wrote:And what about the Samsung galaxy s7 ?
S7 after 2', default hash size, 2927.
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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by JuLieN » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:14 pm

Here comes the updated charts.

The Galaxy S7 Edge is the European version, with the new Exynos. I set Stockfish to 8 threads, gave it 2GB of hash and let it run for one minute.

I'd be curious to know the bench results of the American version, with the Snapdragon. It should be faster than the Exynos, I believe.

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PC mit i5-3550 (4 cores @3.9 Ghz)                       6.332.000
PC mit i7-4700mq ( @2.4 Ghz)                            5.492.000

Samsung S7 Edge &#40;Exynos, 8 cores 64 bits&#41;               3.036.000 < NEW
Samsung S6 Edge + &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;               2.505.000
Samsung Galaxy Note 5                                   2.500.000 < NEW
iPad Pro &#40;A9X, 2 cores @2.26 Ghz 64 bits&#41;               2.480.000
Samsung S6 &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;                      2.042.000
iPhone 6s                                               2.024.000
Ipad Air 2 &#40;3 cores Apple A8X + M8 64 bits 1.5 Ghz&#41;     1.970.000
Xiaomi Redmi Note2   &#40;MTK6795 Helio x10&#41;                1.940.000
Lenovo Vibe X2 &#40;8 cores MTK6595m 2.0 Ghz&#41;               1.851.000
Cube T9 &#40;8 cores 2.0Ghz )                               1.837.000 
Samsung Note4 &#40;Exynos 5433 8 cores 1.9/1.3 Ghz 64Bit&#41;   1.520.000
LG G3                                                   1.400.000 < NEW
Xiaomi MiPad &#40;4 cores Tegra K1 32 bits&#41;                 1.357.000
Huawei Ascend Mate 7 &#40;8 cores Kirin 925 1.8 Ghz&#41;        1.293.000
iPad Mini 4 &#40;2 cores @1.5 GHz, 64 bits&#41;                 1.290.000
IPhone 6 &#40;2 cores Apple A8 64-bits 1,38 GHz&#41;            1.270.000
Huawei Honor 6 &#40;8 cores Kirin 920 1.7 Ghz&#41;              1.258.000 
One plus two &#40;8 cores 810 64Bit&#41;                        1.242.000
Teclast P98HD &#40;8 cores MTK8392 2 Ghz&#41;                   1.241.000
ELephone P8 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1,7 Ghz&#41;                   1.240.000
TCL Idol X+ S960T ( 8 cores 2.0 GHz&#41;                    1.226.000
Ipad Air &#40;2 cores Apple A7 64 bits 1.4 Ghz&#41;             1.218.000 
Onda V989 &#40;8 cores A80T 2 Ghz&#41;                          1.185.000
Iocean X8 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1.7GHz&#41;                      1.163.000
Iphone 5s &#40;2 64bit cores 1.3 ghz&#41;                       1.152.000 
Efox Smart E5 &#40;8 Cores MTK6592 1,7GHz&#41;                  1 138.000
Jiayu G4S &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1,7GHz&#41;                      1.132.000  
iPad Mini 2 &#40;2 cores Apple A7 64 bits 1.3 GHz&#41;          1.128.000
Cube Talk 9x &#40;8 cores MTK8392 1.7 Ghz&#41;                  1.124.000
TCL Idol X+ S960T ( 8 cores 2.0 GHz&#41;                    1.112.000 
PIPO P1 &#40;4 cores RK3288 1.8 Ghz&#41;                        1.108.000
Goophone M8 &#40;8 cores MTK8392 1.7 Ghz&#41;                   1.100.000
Zopo ZP998 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1.7 GHz )                   1.100.000
Coolpad F1 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1.7 GHz&#41;                    1.087.000
Star Ulefone U9592 &#40;8 cores 1.7 Ghz&#41;                    1.080.000
Motorola X play &#40;8 cores 615 but only 32bit OS&#41;         1.077.000
Teclast P90HD &#40;4 cores RK3288 1.8 Ghz&#41;                  1.072.000
THL 5000 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 2.0 Ghz&#41;                      1.069.000
ASUS Transformer TF701t &#40;4 cores )                      1.054.000
Elephone P2000 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1.7 Ghz&#41;                1.037.000
Pipo T9 &#40;8 cores MTK6592 1.7 Ghz&#41;                       1.021.000  
Samsung Note10.1 2014 &#40;4cores exynos&#41;                   1.014.000 
Lenovo Miix 2 10 &#40;4 cores, x86 Atom Bay&#41;                  915.000
Pipo M9pro &#40;4 cores RK3188 1.6 Ghz&#41;                       809.000 
Oneplus One &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.5 Ghz&#41;             784.000
Samsung Galaxy Note2 &#40;4 cores Exynos 4412 1.6 GHz&#41;        714.000
Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 &#40;4 cores Exynos 4412 1.6 GHz&#41;     714.000
Sony Xperia Z3 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.5 Ghz&#41;          713.000
Xiaomi Mi3 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.26 Ghz&#41;             711.000
Xiaomi Mi4 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.5 Ghz&#41;              707.000
ASUS Transformer TF300T &#40;4 cores&#41;                         661.000
HTC One M8 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.26 Ghz&#41;             650.000 
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S800 2.3 GHz&#41;   648.000
Asus memopad 10.1 &#40;4 cores RK3188 1.6 GHz&#41;                644.000
One Plus One                                              643.000 
Samsung Galaxy S5 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.5 Ghz&#41;       633.000
LG G3 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S801 2.5 Ghz&#41;                   613.000
Sony Xperia Z1 &#40;4 cores Snapdragon S800 2.2 Ghz&#41;          602.000
Asus Infinity tf700 &#40;4 cores&#41;                             590.000    
Note 3 &#40;4 cores&#41;                                          581.000   
Galaxy S3 &#40;4 cores&#41;                                       574.000
Cubot One &#40;4 core MTK 6589T@ 4x1.5Ghz&#41;                    568.000   
BQ Aquaris 5.7 5.7 &#40;4 cores MTK6589T 1.5 Ghz&#41;             566.000
LG G2                                                     556.000   
Pomp c6 &#40;4 cores MT6589T&#41;                                 553.000
Jiayu G3ST &#40;4 cores MTK6589T 1,5 Ghz&#41;                     548.000
Acer Liquid S1 &#40;4 cores MTK6589T 1.5 Ghz&#41;                 545.000
Nexus 7 Wifi &#40;Grouper&#41; &#40;4 cores Tegra 4 1,3 GHz&#41;          545.000
Zopo ZP700 &#40;4 cores MTK6582 1,3 GHz&#41;                      536.000
Timmy T1 &#40;4 cores MT6589T 1.5 GHz&#41;                        529.000
Pipo max M9 &#40;4x cortex a9 1.6 ghz&#41;                        526.000
LG Optimus 4xHD &#40;4 cores&#41;                                 521.000
ZTE geek v975 &#40;2+2HT intel atom&#41;                          511.000   
iPad4                                                     510.000
Nexus 10  &#40;2 cores&#41;                                       510.000   
Google Nexus 5 &#40;4 cores&#41;                                  508.000 
Asus Zenfone 6 &#40;2 cores + Hyperthread Intel z2580&#41;        497.000   
Amoi N828 &#40;4 cores MTK6589 @ 4x1,2GHz&#41;                    493.000
iPhone 5 &#40;2 cores&#41;                                        476.800
HTC one X tegra3 &#40;4 cores&#41;                                470.000
Motorola G &#40;4 cores&#41;                                      460.000   
google nexus 7 tablet pc &#40;4 cores&#41;                        457.000
SamsungGalaxy S4&#40;1.9Ghz,4 cores,1GBhash&#41;                  450.000   
Asus Transformer Prime &#40;4 threads&#41;                        440.435
Motorola G &#40;2014&#41; 4 cores                                 439.000
HTC one                                                   438.000 
Huawei P6 &#40;4 cores K3V2E 1.5 Ghz&#41;                         427.000
Tablet HP 7.1 1201 &#40;A7 Quad Core 1,0 Ghz&#41;                 410.000
Meizu MX3 &#40;8 cores Exynos 5410&#41;                           410.000  
Huawei P6 &#40;Hi-SiliconK3V2 4x1.5&#41;                          405.000    
Google Nexus4 &#40;4 cores&#41;                                   400.000
Xiaomi Mi2                                                386.000
Sony Xperia Z &#40;4 cores&#41;                                   376.000
B&N Nook HD+ &#40;2 cores TI OMAP 4470 1,5 GHz&#41;               371.000
Oppo Find 5                                               368.000
Dell Latitude &#40;Core2duo T7600, 2.3 Ghz&#41;                   366.000
Samsung Galaxy 3 &#40;2 core&#41;                                 333.567
Galaxy Note                                               329.000
Raspberry Pi 2 &#40;4 cores @ 900 MHz&#41;                        325.000 
Trekstor Surftab                                          305.000
iPad mini                                                 277.500
iPad3                                                     277.000
Mbx Dongle Board g02 &#40;2 cores AML8726-MX 1,2 GHz&#41;         276.000
Ipad2 &#40;2 cores&#41;                                           274.000
Motorola Razr i &#40;2 cores hyperthread&#41;                     271.000
Sony xperia S &#40;2 cores&#41;                                   259.000
Samsung Galaxy Nexus &#40;2 cores TI OMAP 4460 1,2 GHz&#41;       256.000
Tablet Rockchip RK3066 2core @1.6Ghz                      250.000 
Samsung Galaxy S2                                         253.000
Motorola X                                                253.000   
Motorola Razr &#40;Slimkat Android 4.4.2&#41;                     250.000
iPhone 4S &#40;Apple A5&#41;                                      225.500
Lenovo A660 &#40;2 cores&#41;                                     222.000
Advent Vega Tegra2                                        220.500
Sony Tablet S                                             218.000
Motorola Razr xt910 &#40;2 cores&#41;                             216.000
Motorola Razr HD                                          212.000
LG Optimus Speed P990 &#40;2 cores&#41;                           200.000
HTC one S qualcomm s4 &#40;2 cores&#41;                           200.000
Sony Xperia P &#40;2 cores&#41;                                   196.000
Samsung Galaxy SIII 1.5GHz &#40;2 Cores&#41;                      189.867
Motorola Razr i &#40;1 core&#41;                                  186.000
Nuu Nu1 &#40;qualcom dualcore 1.7 Ghz&#41;                        142.000
samsung epic                                              141.000
HTC Flyer, 1.5 Ghz                                        140.000
Advent Vega Tablet &#40;2 cores&#41;                              137.126
Dell Streak                                               133.000
Sony Xperia P &#40;2 cores&#41;                                   112.000
Samsung Vibrant                                           111.000
Samsung Galaxy Tab                                        108.500
LG Optimus 2x                                             102.000
HTC HD2 1 Ghz 1 core                                       94.000
HTC Desire S                                               90.000
Sony Xperia Ray                                            85.126
HTC Desire                                                 84.000
iPhone 4                                                   80.000
ipod touch 4                                               78.000   
samsung galaxy s                                           70.000
7-inch Barnes and Noble Color                              62.500
Sony PRS-T1 ebook-reader                                   53.817
iPhone 3GS                                                 51.000
HTC Wildfire S                                             31.000
Android phone Qualcomm 600MHz &#40;1 core&#41;                     25.750
Ipod touch 2nd gen                                         16.500
Palm Pre oc. 1Ghz &#40;Webos1.4.5&#41;                             16.000
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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by mclane » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:00 pm

I don't think it is good to Change the hash size.
We already have problems enough with the different stockfish versions over a period of time, by changing hash you change another parameter.

Increasing hash, and decreasing time of measurement for the benchmark both
Advantages the engine, but what is it worth for ?
You have 3036 and I have 2927.
So it's not a big change overall.
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Re: Budget phone

Post by yurikvelo » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:35 pm

Nordlandia wrote:Smartphone vs Desktop challenge

Question is whether Stockfish 7 on LG G3 will beat Houdini 4 Pro on Pentium E5200.

LG G3 is capable for about 1,400 Knp/s

Pentium E2000 is in the 2,000 range for Stockfish/Komodo and fairly in the 3,000 range for semi-obsolete H4 Pro.
CCRL 40/40: +6&#8722;44=70, which is -114 elo H4 vs SF7

this amount of ELO can be compensated about 4x time/speed, so I estimate H4 need CPU capable of SF7 @ 5 600 Knp/s to draw against SF7@LG_G3

With 1.5x speed advantage I predict compensation of 40elo, which still gives +75 elo advantage for SF7@LG_G3

P.S. another factor: H4 @ PC is capable of Syzygy-6, SF7@LG_G3 practically support only Syzygy-5. Have no idea how this can influence elo.

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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by royb » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:39 pm

Julien,

Did you use Droidfish for this result? I have Droidfish with SF 7 as the engine and I get nowhere near what you see. I have the Snapdragon 820-based Galaxy S7 Edge and after one minute with 1 GB of Hash and 4 threads (supposed to be 4 cores on Snapdragon 820), I see this performance in NPS for the starting position: 1096K nodes per second.

I'm wondering if I've got something set up incorrectly with SF 7 that is causing this low a number compared to the result you posted. Yes, your CPU is Exynos 8-core but some have said performance tests have shown that the two are close and the Snapdragon 820 is even a bit faster in some tests.

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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by mclane » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:01 pm

Snapdragon 820 has only 4 cores. Is a hot CPU and I guess exynos has bigger internal cache ?
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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by Laskos » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:05 pm

royb wrote:Julien,

Did you use Droidfish for this result? I have Droidfish with SF 7 as the engine and I get nowhere near what you see. I have the Snapdragon 820-based Galaxy S7 Edge and after one minute with 1 GB of Hash and 4 threads (supposed to be 4 cores on Snapdragon 820), I see this performance in NPS for the starting position: 1096K nodes per second.

I'm wondering if I've got something set up incorrectly with SF 7 that is causing this low a number compared to the result you posted. Yes, your CPU is Exynos 8-core but some have said performance tests have shown that the two are close and the Snapdragon 820 is even a bit faster in some tests.

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My guess is that SF was running on a single core. Snapdragon 820 should perform close or maybe even above Exynos.

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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by royb » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:13 pm

Laskos wrote:
royb wrote:Julien,

Did you use Droidfish for this result? I have Droidfish with SF 7 as the engine and I get nowhere near what you see. I have the Snapdragon 820-based Galaxy S7 Edge and after one minute with 1 GB of Hash and 4 threads (supposed to be 4 cores on Snapdragon 820), I see this performance in NPS for the starting position: 1096K nodes per second.

I'm wondering if I've got something set up incorrectly with SF 7 that is causing this low a number compared to the result you posted. Yes, your CPU is Exynos 8-core but some have said performance tests have shown that the two are close and the Snapdragon 820 is even a bit faster in some tests.

Roy
My guess is that SF was running on a single core. Snapdragon 820 should perform close or maybe even above Exynos.
Could it be that despite my setting the number of threads to 4, it was still using a single core? I do not know how to tell on the phone what is really going on when running SF 7 on it. Perhaps others with a Snapdragon 820 phone can test it and then we may learn more about this seemingly strange result.

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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

Post by Laskos » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:16 pm

royb wrote:
Laskos wrote:
royb wrote:Julien,

Did you use Droidfish for this result? I have Droidfish with SF 7 as the engine and I get nowhere near what you see. I have the Snapdragon 820-based Galaxy S7 Edge and after one minute with 1 GB of Hash and 4 threads (supposed to be 4 cores on Snapdragon 820), I see this performance in NPS for the starting position: 1096K nodes per second.

I'm wondering if I've got something set up incorrectly with SF 7 that is causing this low a number compared to the result you posted. Yes, your CPU is Exynos 8-core but some have said performance tests have shown that the two are close and the Snapdragon 820 is even a bit faster in some tests.

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My guess is that SF was running on a single core. Snapdragon 820 should perform close or maybe even above Exynos.
Could it be that despite my setting the number of threads to 4, it was still using a single core? I do not know how to tell on the phone what is really going on when running SF 7 on it. Perhaps others with a Snapdragon 820 phone can test it and then we may learn more about this seemingly strange result.
No way it's 1096K. In fact I hope it's above Exynos.

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