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Re: benchmark new smartphones:

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JuLieN wrote:Here comes the updated charts.

The Galaxy S7 Edge is the European version, with the new Exynos. I set Stockfish to 8 threads, gave it 2GB of hash and let it run for one minute.

I'd be curious to know the bench results of the American version, with the Snapdragon. It should be faster than the Exynos, I believe.

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PC mit i5-3550 (4 cores @3.9 Ghz)                       6.332.000
PC mit i7-4700mq ( @2.4 Ghz)                            5.492.000

Samsung S7 Edge &#40;Exynos, 8 cores 64 bits&#41;               3.036.000 < NEW
Samsung S6 Edge + &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;               2.505.000
Samsung Galaxy Note 5                                   2.500.000 < NEW
iPad Pro &#40;A9X, 2 cores @2.26 Ghz 64 bits&#41;               2.480.000
Samsung S6 &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;                      2.042.000
iPhone 6s                                               2.024.000
Ipad Air 2 &#40;3 cores Apple A8X + M8 64 bits 1.5 Ghz&#41;     1.970.000
Xiaomi Redmi Note2   &#40;MTK6795 Helio x10&#41;                1.940.000
Lenovo Vibe X2 &#40;8 cores MTK6595m 2.0 Ghz&#41;               1.851.000
Cube T9 &#40;8 cores 2.0Ghz )                               1.837.000 
Samsung Note4 &#40;Exynos 5433 8 cores 1.9/1.3 Ghz 64Bit&#41;   1.520.000
LG G3                                                   1.400.000 < NEW
Xiaomi MiPad &#40;4 cores Tegra K1 32 bits&#41;                 1.357.000
Huawei Ascend Mate 7 &#40;8 cores Kirin 925 1.8 Ghz&#41;        1.293.000
iPad Mini 4 &#40;2 cores @1.5 GHz, 64 bits&#41;                 1.290.000
IPhone 6 &#40;2 cores Apple A8 64-bits 1,38 GHz&#41;            1.270.000
Huawei Honor 6 &#40;8 cores Kirin 920 1.7 Ghz&#41;              1.258.000 
Apologies if this has already been answered - but how is it possible that the Honor 6, with 8 core processors and a high clock speed, gets a lower score than the iPhone 6?

I can only assume that the chess program is using such a large addressable memory space that the 64 bits become an advantage?

The Honor gets a MUCH higher GeekBench 3 score than the iPhone 6 does.

Btw - in the UK, the Honor costs £170, whereas the iPhone 6 costs over £600.
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Internal Cache of the CPU,
Qualcomm and other CPUs suck, exynos is good.
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towforce wrote:with 8 core processors and a high clock speed, gets a lower score than the iPhone 6?
Huawei Kirin 920 = ARM big.LITTLE: 4 cores Cortex-A15 + 4 cores Cortex-A7

It depends if big + LITTLE cores can be run simultaneously.

Exynos 5410 can run either 4-A7 either 4-A15 cores
Exynos 5420 can run both 4-A7 and 4-A15 cores simultaneously

Do not know about Kirin 920. If you have access - try 8 vs 4 threads and check gain.
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yurikvelo wrote:
towforce wrote:with 8 core processors and a high clock speed, gets a lower score than the iPhone 6?
Huawei Kirin 920 = ARM big.LITTLE: 4 cores Cortex-A15 + 4 cores Cortex-A7

It depends if big + LITTLE cores can be run simultaneously.

Exynos 5410 can run either 4-A7 either 4-A15 cores
Exynos 5420 can run both 4-A7 and 4-A15 cores simultaneously

Do not know about Kirin 920. If you have access - try 8 vs 4 threads and check gain.
Regretfully, I don't have one to test - though if I was buying a phone right now, I'd give the Honor serious consideration - even though it's a misspelling in British English ("honour"). :lol:

Thanks to you and Thorsten for suggestions as to why it might be worse in chess.

It is still mysterious that the iPhone 6S gets a geekbench 3 score of 1605, whereas the Honor gets a geekbench 3 score of 2990. This implies that the chess test didn't use all the available threads? Or maybe that the chess program uses enough memory to give 64 bit addressing an advantage?
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towforce wrote:It is still mysterious that the iPhone 6S gets a geekbench 3 score of 1605, whereas the Honor gets a geekbench 3 score of 2990
Here: https://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
iPhone 6S get 2490 in single-core and 4331 in multicore in geekbench 3

at the same time: https://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
Huawei Kirin 920 get 850 and 3044 respectively

4331 / 3044 = 1,4228

1.258.000 x 1,4228 = 1.789.881 <-- expected iPhone 6S perfomance based on GeekBench3 results
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There quite a few mobiles having 64 bit hardware but not using 64 bit android,
E.g. Motorola X play comes to my mind.

This is the first thing you have to find out: often mobiles with low memory of only 2 GB do not use 64 bit android.

Next thing is that most benchmarks test graphics. Completely irrelevant for our hobby.

Third thing is Qualcomm CPUs have fast gpus but get very hot and reduce speed soon.

That's the reason we have the benchmark, you can see which mobiles are interesting concerning chess.
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yurikvelo wrote:
towforce wrote:It is still mysterious that the iPhone 6S gets a geekbench 3 score of 1605, whereas the Honor gets a geekbench 3 score of 2990
Here: https://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks
iPhone 6S get 2490 in single-core and 4331 in multicore in geekbench 3

at the same time: https://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
Huawei Kirin 920 get 850 and 3044 respectively
Sorry - looks as though the number I had was the iPhone 6 single core.
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How come Samsung decide to make a model of phone with different CPU. Some versions have the Snapdragon and others the Exynos. Is there any way of knowing what version you get before buying. I live in New Zealand and would hate to buy the S7 only to find out later that it is the Snapdragon version. The Samsung NZ site does not state what specs are for the CPU but list all other specs.
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chessmobile wrote:Is there any way of knowing what version you get before buying. I live in New Zealand and would hate to buy the S7 only to find out later that it is the Snapdragon version. The Samsung NZ site does not state what specs are for the CPU but list all other specs.
Can't you ask seller before purchase?

US and China based customers will be getting the Snapdragon 820 version of the Galaxy S7 while Samsung’s Korean, Japanese and European markets will be getting the Exynos 8890 based variant of the Galaxy S7. As far as the Exynos 7422 goes, that device will be limited for customers in India only
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I suspect that there's a strong correlation between these numbers and the GeekBench 3 results. It would be easy to take a sample and check: in a spreadsheet, the correlation function is CORREL. If the outcome is close to 1, then we can say that the chess performance of a device will be close to its GeekBench 3 performance.

Given that people publish GeekBench 3 results as soon as a phone is launched, this information is always going to be available.

Again, this is a very long thread, so apologies if it has already been discussed.

Also, may I ask what the numbers below are, please? Reported number of positions generated per second?
JuLieN wrote:Here comes the updated charts.

The Galaxy S7 Edge is the European version, with the new Exynos. I set Stockfish to 8 threads, gave it 2GB of hash and let it run for one minute.

I'd be curious to know the bench results of the American version, with the Snapdragon. It should be faster than the Exynos, I believe.

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PC mit i5-3550 &#40;4 cores @3.9 Ghz&#41;                       6.332.000
PC mit i7-4700mq ( @2.4 Ghz&#41;                            5.492.000

Samsung S7 Edge &#40;Exynos, 8 cores 64 bits&#41;               3.036.000 < NEW
Samsung S6 Edge + &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;               2.505.000
Samsung Galaxy Note 5                                   2.500.000 < NEW
iPad Pro &#40;A9X, 2 cores @2.26 Ghz 64 bits&#41;               2.480.000
Samsung S6 &#40;8 cores 64 Bit Exynos&#41;                      2.042.000
iPhone 6s                                               2.024.000
Ipad Air 2 &#40;3 cores Apple A8X + M8 64 bits 1.5 Ghz&#41;     1.970.000
Xiaomi Redmi Note2   &#40;MTK6795 Helio x10&#41;                1.940.000
Lenovo Vibe X2 &#40;8 cores MTK6595m 2.0 Ghz&#41;               1.851.000
Cube T9 &#40;8 cores 2.0Ghz )                               1.837.000 
Samsung Note4 &#40;Exynos 5433 8 cores 1.9/1.3 Ghz 64Bit&#41;   1.520.000
LG G3                                                   1.400.000 < NEW
Xiaomi MiPad &#40;4 cores Tegra K1 32 bits&#41;                 1.357.000
Huawei Ascend Mate 7 &#40;8 cores Kirin 925 1.8 Ghz&#41;        1.293.000
iPad Mini 4 &#40;2 cores @1.5 GHz, 64 bits&#41;                 1.290.000
IPhone 6 &#40;2 cores Apple A8 64-bits 1,38 GHz&#41;            1.270.000
Huawei Honor 6 &#40;8 cores Kirin 920 1.7 Ghz&#41;              1.258.000 
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