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neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by Jim Ablett » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:21 pm

https://github.com/m00natic/neuroStock
https://github.com/m00natic/neuroGrape

Modification of Stockfish & Grapefruit chess engines using backpropagation neural network for evaluation.
by Andrey Kotlarski


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neuroStock 2.01 JA

Windows/Linux 32/64


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5047625/neurostock-201-ja.zip
Mirror:
http://cl.ly/FxfG/neurostock-201-ja.zip


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neuroGrape 1.1 JA

Windows/Linux 32

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5047625/neurogrape-11-ja.zip
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http://cl.ly/Fy1R/neurogrape-11-ja.zip


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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by Denis P. Mendoza » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:41 pm

Jim,

Could you add 'neurochesstrainer' to make it a complete package?
Thanks.

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by Jim Ablett » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Denis P. Mendoza wrote:Jim,

Could you add 'neurochesstrainer' to make it a complete package?
Thanks.

Denis
Hi Denis,

it should all be in there. :?

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by Denis P. Mendoza » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:44 pm

Jim Ablett wrote:
Denis P. Mendoza wrote:Jim,

Could you add 'neurochesstrainer' to make it a complete package?
Thanks.

Denis
Hi Denis,

it should all be in there. :?

Jim.
:oops: Sorry, I didn't look first before I complained!
Thanks a lot for these. I only asked as I wasn't successful with the trainer.

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by jm_thompson » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

Has anyone tested this Neural Network Stockfish? how does it compare with the original one? is it any stronger?

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by royb » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:32 pm

How does this all work? I'm new to neural nets but believe that they typically have to be "trained" before playing well. What is the process for the training and how long before it begins to play reasonable (2000 ELO) chess?

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by gleperlier » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:39 pm

jm_thompson wrote:Has anyone tested this Neural Network Stockfish? how does it compare with the original one? is it any stronger?
** neuroStock is an experiment (more like meta-engine) and in
** combination with neuroChessTrainer[fn:2] supposed to be testing
** platform for different backpropagation neural networks. There
** are no expectations for engine strength and as far as hardly
** trained, it plays like a blond bimbo.

But project is very interesting :D Will try it ^^

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by gaard » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:06 pm

I am not getting the output logs using mode 0. Could this be because I am using Windows and you compiled with the original directory format "./logs/stockfish-"?

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by jm_thompson » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:58 pm

gleperlier wrote:
jm_thompson wrote:Has anyone tested this Neural Network Stockfish? how does it compare with the original one? is it any stronger?
** neuroStock is an experiment (more like meta-engine) and in
** combination with neuroChessTrainer[fn:2] supposed to be testing
** platform for different backpropagation neural networks. There
** are no expectations for engine strength and as far as hardly
** trained, it plays like a blond bimbo.

But project is very interesting :D Will try it ^^
thanks, I didn't notice that.

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Re: neuroStock & neuroGrape mods by Andrey Kotlarski

Post by Jim Ablett » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:51 pm

gaard wrote:I am not getting the output logs using mode 0. Could this be because I am using Windows and you compiled with the original directory format "./logs/stockfish-"?
Windows builds are not outputting the neccesary log files. :(

I have re-compiled both NeuroStock & NeuroGrape with Cygwin and now both are working correctly :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5047625/neurogrape-11-ja.zip
Mirror:
http://cl.ly/G4l7/neurogrape-11-ja.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5047625/neurostock-201-ja.zip
Mirror:
http://cl.ly/G5Rg/neurostock-201-ja.zip

Downside is that NeuroStock can only be 32 bit (Cygwin has no 64 bit), but I don't think it matters much with these experimental programs.

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