Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

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JAMerolle
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Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by JAMerolle » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:10 pm

I looked on many list but have not seen it, any help would be great. I posted before but knowone has answered me.

royb
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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by royb » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:33 pm

I hope you do get an answer. I asked previously and got nothing on this. My guess is 2700 using the scale that CEGT uses but that's just my guess; I have no data to back that up.

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by styx » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:08 pm

how should someone know? for an accurate rating, stockfish on the ipad must participate in a human tournament. if you say "ok I only want to know it's rating compared to the CCRL or IPON engines" you could compare the speed of your ipad-sf with the speed of a desktop computer-sf used in these rating lists. if the desktop-pc is, let's say 20x faster, then maybe someone can guess the resulting elo difference.

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by royb » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:16 am

My MacBook Pro processor (2.3 GHz i7) runs only 3.57 times faster than an iPad 2 (comparing stockfish 2.2.2 speeds on both CPUs).

3.57x faster implies roughly 60 Elo strength (I see 35 Elo per doubling these days, not the 50 or so that used to seem the norm about 4-5 years ago). If that holds, then Stockfish 2.2.2 on CEGT is rated roughly 2973, so perhaps 2900 (on the CEGT scale) would seem the right neighborhood for the iPad 2 version of Stockfish.

Even if we allow for some pessimism, perhaps 2800? Pretty darn strong actually.

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by royb » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:12 am

I cannot edit my post now but I must have mis-typed on my calculator. My Mac 2.3 GHz i7 CPU is 4.6 times faster than the iPad 2, so that means perhaps 80 Elo difference between the Mac and the iPad 2 for Stockfish. Even so, that doesn't drastically change the numbers.
Perhaps 2800 is a realistic conservative strength estimate (again, using the CEGT rating scale).

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by ernest » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:18 am

royb wrote:I see 35 Elo per doubling these days, not the 50 or so that used to seem the norm about 4-5 years ago).
That's a pretty extreme view!
60 to 70 Elo per doubling still seems the mainstream observation...

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by royb » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:53 am

Really? I do not agree. My recent casual perusal of the CEGT rating list seems to suggest much less ELO gain these days for going from 1 to 2 to 4 CPUs. If I remember right, Houdini and Critter and Stockfish gain much less than 60 or 70 ELO when going from 1 to 2 CPUs and then again to 4 CPUs.

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by ernest » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:10 pm

royb wrote:going from 1 to 2 to 4 CPUs.
We were speaking about doubling speed, not doubling CPUs...

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by royb » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:12 pm

Oh yes, you are correct. I was saying one thing (typing one thing actually) and thinking another. Roughly 35 ELO per doubling of CPUs is what I was referring to. My apologies.

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Re: Stockfish on IPad 2 what is it rated?

Post by JAMerolle » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:54 am

Thanks for the help , of course I was only talking about computer computer matches. I know the SSDF has a nice spectrum of platforms so I thought it might be there but its not.

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