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What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by fern » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:47 pm

Some weeks ago he appeared, produced great commotion, wrote lot of post, answered questions, etc and then he disappeared again.
One explanation is that we were not enough interesting to keep his attention.
Another: he is too busy to assist.
Even another is he is sick or in a trip.
In any case I miss him.
I love to get pride saying I am part of a club where lot of chess geniuses programmers participate.

Just average guy regards
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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by mclane » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:59 pm

i guess he is in holidays. sitting at the beach of acapulco with a constellation on batteries, enjoying the water and the people arround him.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....

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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:50 pm

Ohhh man, i loved the style of his chessprograms.

He did alot for computerchess. :!:

Please tell him that some crazy guys would give him money to get a UCI-WChess from him. :D
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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by fern » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:56 pm

remember you can get the DOS version and run it in D-Fend, a great program to use inside windows, no problems even for dummy like me.

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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:24 pm

fern wrote:remember you can get the DOS version and run it in D-Fend, a great program to use inside windows, no problems even for dummy like me.
I do a lot with D-Fend and old DOS-Wchess.

But it hurts how less WChess gets from my CPU in this way.

So i am dreaming of a UCI-WChess without any changes in the versionnumber.

I played this 40moves in 60 minutes game against the new UCI Gideon by Ed Schröder.

WChess missed a draw by playing 29.Bd2? instead of the better 29.Nc5+ or 29.Bf4.

But his speculative piecesac 23.Bh7+! was a big shot.

[D]3r2k1/1b2bppp/p2qpn2/n3N3/Pp1P1N2/3BB3/1P3PPP/1Q3R1K w - - 5 23

[Event "Computer Schach Partie"]
[Site "40 Züge in 60 Minuten"]
[Date "2012.08.17"]
[Round "1"]
[White "WChess"]
[Black "Mephisto Gideon Pro"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2450"]
[ECO "B14"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "18:06:02"]
[Variation "Panow-Angriff, 5...e6 6.Nf3 Nc6"]
[WhiteElo "2350"]
[TimeControl "40/3600:40/3600:40/3600"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "145"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Comment "Wchess emuliert von D-Fend Reloaded auf Q6600 mit 2,7 Ghz"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 dxc4 5. Bxc4 Nf6 6. Nf3 e6 7. O-O Nc6
{0.00/1 0} 8. Nc3 Be7 {0.00/1 0} 9. Be3 O-O {(O-O Sf3-e5 Lc8-d7 Ta1-c1
a7-a6 Se5xd7 Dd8xd7 d4-d5) +0.01/12 195} 10. Ne5 Na5 {(Sc6-a5 Lc4-b5 b7-b6
Le3-g5 a7-a6 Lb5-c6 Ta8-a7) -0.12/11 107} 11. Bb5 a6 {(a7-a6 Lb5-d3 b7-b5
a2-a4 b5-b4 Sc3-e4 Lc8-b7 Se4xf6+) -0.07/13} 12. Bd3 b5 {(b7-b5 Ta1-c1)
+0.02/12 13} 13. a4 b4 {(b5-b4 Sc3-e4 Lc8-b7 Se4xf6+ Le7xf6 f2-f4 Ta8-c8
Dd1-e2 Dd8-d6) +0.03/13 207} 14. Ne2 Bb7 {(Lc8-b7 Ta1-c1 Dd8-d6 b2-b3
Tf8-c8 Se5-c4) +0.12/12 97} 15. Rc1 Qd6 {(Dd8-d6 b2-b3 Ta8-c8 Se5-c4 Dd6-d8
Tf1-e1 Tf8-e8 h2-h3) +0.14/12} 16. Rc5 Qb6 {(Dd6-b6 Tc5-c1 Tf8-c8 Tc1xc8+
Ta8xc8 Dd1-b1) +0.18/12 142} 17. Rc2 Bd5 {(Lb7-d5 Dd1-a1 Tf8-d8 Se2-f4
Ld5-b3 Tc2-c1 Db6-d6 Sf4-h3) +0.16/11 189} 18. Rc1 Rac8 {(Ta8-c8 Tc1xc8
Tf8xc8 Dd1-b1 Db6-b7 Se2-f4 Ld5-b3) +0.17/11 111} 19. Nf4 Rxc1 {(Tc8xc1
Dd1xc1 Ld5-b7 Dc1-b1 Tf8-c8 Sf4-e2) +0.23/12 143} 20. Qxc1 Bb7 {(Ld5-b7
Dc1-b1 Tf8-c8 Tf1-c1) +0.17/12} 21. Qb1 Rd8 {(Tf8-d8 Tf1-e1 Td8-c8)
+0.07/11 36} 22. Kh1 Qd6 {(Db6-d6 Tf1-c1 Dd6-b8 Sf4-e2 Le7-d6 Le3-g5
Ld6xe5) +0.07/11 185} 23. Bxh7+ Nxh7 {(Sf6xh7 Se5xf7 Kg8xf7 Db1xh7 e6-e5
Dh7-h5+) +0.16/12 42} 24. Nxf7 Kxf7 {(Kg8xf7 Db1xh7 Td8-f8 Tf1-c1 Kf7-e8
Sf4-g6 Dd6-d5) +0.24/12 56} 25. Qxh7 Rf8 {(Td8-f8 Tf1-c1 Kf7-e8 Sf4-g6
Dd6-d5 Tc1-g1 Tf8-f7 Dh7-g8+) +0.21/12 75} 26. Rc1 Ke8 {(Kf7-e8 Sf4-g6
Dd6-d5 Tc1-g1 Tf8-f7 Dh7-g8+ Le7-f8) +0.30/13} 27. Qg6+ Kd7 {(Ke8-d7 Sf4-d3
Le7-f6 f2-f3 Sa5-c6 Sd3-c5+ Kd7-c8) +0.67/12 244} 28. Nd3 Bf6 {(Le7-f6
h2-h3 Lb7-c6 d4-d5 Dd6xd5 Sd3xb4) +0.56/11 96} 29. Bd2 Nc6 {(Sa5-c6 Ld2-f4
Dd6-d5 Sd3-c5+ Kd7-c8 a4-a5 b4-b3) +0.48/11 119} 30. Nc5+ Kc8 {(Kd7-c8
Dg6-g4 Tf8-e8 Dg4-h5 Te8-d8 Dh5-f7) +0.46/11 132} 31. Qe4 Rh8 {(Tf8-h8
De4xe6+ Dd6xe6 Sc5xe6 Kc8-b8 d4-d5 Sc6-d4 Ld2xb4) +0.51/13 166} 32. Qxe6+
Qxe6 {(Dd6xe6 Sc5xe6 Kc8-b8 Tc1-c4 Th8-c8 Kh1-g1 b4-b3) +0.50/14} 33. Nxe6
Kb8 {(Kc8-b8 Tc1-c4 Th8-c8) +0.56/13 155} 34. d5 Ne5 {(Sc6-e5 Ld2xb4 Lb7xd5
Lb4-d6+ Kb8-b7 Tc1-c7+ Kb7-a8 Se6xg7) +0.60/12 109} 35. Bxb4 Nd3 {(Se5-d3
Lb4-d6+ Kb8-a7 Tc1-c7 Th8-h5 f2-f3 Th5xd5) +1.04/13} 36. Bd6+ Ka7 {(Kb8-a7
Tc1-c7 Th8-h5 Ld6-g3 Th5xd5 h2-h4 Sd3xb2) +1.03/13 189} 37. Rc7 Rh5
{(Th8-h5 Ld6-g3 Th5xd5 h2-h4 Sd3xb2) +1.06/12 79} 38. Bg3 Rxd5 {(Th5xd5
h2-h4 Sd3xb2 Se6xg7 Sb2xa4) +1.15/13 59} 39. h3 Nxb2 {(Sd3xb2 Se6xg7 Lf6xg7
Tc7xg7 Sb2xa4 Tg7-e7 Sa4-c5 Lg3-e5 a6-a5) +1.15/12 80} 40. Nc5 Rxc5
{(Td5xc5 Tc7xc5 Sb2xa4) +1.41/14 172} 41. Rxc5 Nxa4 {(Sb2xa4 Tc5-f5 Lb7-e4)
+1.17/14} 42. Rc4 Nb2 {(Sa4-b2 Tc4-g4 Lb7-c8 Tg4-e4 a6-a5) +1.35/14 160}
43. Rc7 a5 {(a6-a5 Tc7-c2 Ka7-a6) +1.53/13 79} 44. Kh2 a4 {(a5-a4 Lg3-d6
Ka7-b6 Tc7-c2 Lb7-d5) +1.87/14 182} 45. Bd6 Kb6 {(Ka7-b6 Tc7-c2 Lb7-d5
Ld6-f8 Sb2-c4 Tc2-a2 Kb6-b5) +1.86/14} 46. Rc2 Bd5 {(Lb7-d5 Kh2-g3 Ld5-b3)
+1.92/13 64} 47. Rc5 Bf7 {(Ld5-f7 Tc5-c2 Lf7-b3 Tc2-e2 Sb2-c4 Ld6-f8)
+2.08/13 154} 48. Rc8 Nc4 {(Sb2-c4 Ld6-f8 Kb6-b7 Tc8-c5) +1.97/12 134} 49.
Bf8 Bd5 {(Lf7-d5 Tc8-c5 Ld5-e6) +2.02/12 65} 50. Rc5 Be5+ {(Lf6-e5+ g2-g3
a4-a3 Tc5xd5 a3-a2 Td5-d1 a2-a1D) +1.89/14} 51. f4 a3 {(a4-a3 Tc5xd5 a3-a2
f4xe5 a2-a1D Lf8xg7 Da1-e1) +2.32/15 158} 52. fxe5 a2 {(a3-a2 Tc5xd5 a2-a1D
e5-e6 Da1-f6 e6-e7 Sc4-e3) +2.34/15 118} 53. Rxd5 a1=Q {(a2-a1D e5-e6
Da1-f6 e6-e7 Sc4-e3 Td5-b5+ Kb6-a6) +2.50/14 82} 54. Bxg7 Ne3 {(Sc4-e3
Td5-d6+ Kb6-c5) +3.28/12 207} 55. Rd6+ Kc5 {(Kb6-c5 g2-g4 Da1-e1 Td6-f6)
+3.23/12} 56. g4 Qe1 {(Da1-e1 Td6-f6 Se3xg4+ h3xg4) +3.47/11 68} 57. Rf6
Nxg4+ {(Se3xg4+ h3xg4 De1-h4+ Kh2-g2 Dh4xg4+ Kg2-f2 Dg4xg7) +3.53/11} 58.
hxg4 Qh4+ {(De1-h4+ Kh2-g2 Dh4xg4+ Kg2-f2 Dg4xg7) +3.01/12 98} 59. Kg1
Qxg4+ {(Dh4xg4+ Kg1-f2 Dg4xg7) +3.04/12 177} 60. Kf2 Qxg7 {(Dg4xg7 Kf2-f3
Dg7-e7 Kf3-e4 De7-h7+) +3.06/11 22} 61. Rd6 Qg5 {(Dg7-g5 Td6-d3) +3.25/12
153} 62. Rd1 Qf4+ {(Dg5-f4+ Kf2-e1 Kc5-c4 e5-e6 Df4-e4+ Ke1-d2 De4-d4+
Kd2-e2 Dd4-e4+ Ke2-f2 De4-f5+ Kf2-e3 Df5-g5+ Ke3-f2) +3.33/11 399} 63. Ke2
Qg4+ {(Df4-g4+ Ke2-e1 Kc5-c4 Td1-d6 Dg4-h4+ Ke1-d2 Dh4-g5+ Kd2-c2 Dg5-g2+
Td6-d2 Dg2-g6+ Kc2-b2 Kc4-b4) +3.34/10 64} 64. Ke1 Kc4 {(Kc5-c4 e5-e6
Dg4-h4+ Ke1-e2 Dh4-h5+) +3.24/11} 65. Kd2 Qf4+ {(Dg4-f4+ Kd2-e2) +3.49/10
61} 66. Ke2 Qe4+ {(Df4-e4+ Ke2-f2) +3.57/11} 67. Kf2 Qc2+ {(De4-c2+ Kf2-e1
Kc4-c3) +3.60/11 57} 68. Ke1 Kc3 {(Kc4-c3 Td1-a1 Kc3-d4) +3.58/12} 69. Ra1
Qb2 {(Dc2-b2 Ta1-d1 Db2-g2) +6.19/12 449} 70. Rd1 Qb4 {(Db2-b4 Ke1-e2
Db4-g4+) +10.16/12 122} 71. Ra1 Kb2+ {(Kc3-b2+ Ke1-f2 Db4-f4+ Kf2-g2 Kb2xa1
e5-e6 Df4-e4+ Kg2-g3) +10.89/11 91} 72. Ke2 Qe4+ {(Db4-e4+ Ke2-d1 De4-d5+
Kd1-e2 Kb2-c3 Ke2-f2 Dd5-d2+ Kf2-f3 Dd2-d5+ Kf3-e3 Dd5xe5+ Ke3-f3 De5-d5+
Kf3-e3 Dd5-d3+ Ke3-f4 Dd3-d6+) +10.89/12 90} 73. Kd2 0-1


This was a typical Kittingermove. 8-)
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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by F.Huber » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:30 pm

fern wrote:remember you can get the DOS version and run it in D-Fend, a great program to use inside windows, no problems even for dummy like me.
If you still have WinXP then you don't need DOS-Box for WChess - it works fine in WinXP with full speed!

And about UCI versions of these DOS oldies: well, who needs a 1001st UCI engine without any GUI, without any own character, interchangable with all other UCI engines?
I don't - I prefer using the original DOS programs as long as possible!

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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:34 pm

F.Huber wrote:
fern wrote:remember you can get the DOS version and run it in D-Fend, a great program to use inside windows, no problems even for dummy like me.
If you still have WinXP then you don't need DOS-Box for WChess - it works fine in WinXP with full speed!

And about UCI versions of these DOS oldies: well, who needs a 1001st UCI engine without any GUI, without any own character, interchangable with all other UCI engines?
I don't - I prefer using the original DOS programs as long as possible!
Ohhh man, please explain me how to do.

I am a WIN XP 64bit(!) user.

I really adore Wchess 1.05.
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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by Don » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:44 pm

fern wrote:Some weeks ago he appeared, produced great commotion, wrote lot of post, answered questions, etc and then he disappeared again.
One explanation is that we were not enough interesting to keep his attention.
Another: he is too busy to assist.
Even another is he is sick or in a trip.
In any case I miss him.
I love to get pride saying I am part of a club where lot of chess geniuses programmers participate.

Just average guy regards
fern
Possibly he surfaced just for a bit of nostalgia, then got over it!
Capital punishment would be more effective as a preventive measure if it were administered prior to the crime.

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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by fern » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:51 pm

Yes, I suppose it is so. In fact it is what all of us do,right?

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Re: What happened to D. Kittinger?

Post by F.Huber » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:56 pm

Thomas Lagershausen wrote: Ohhh man, please explain me how to do.
I am a WIN XP 64bit(!) user.
64-bit? That's not good, IIRC Microsoft has completely removed any 16-bit/DOS support from their 64-bit OS (at least since Vista or Win7, I'm not sure about WinXP).

In a 32-bit WinXP WChess and almost all other old DOS chess programs (one big exception are all Rebel programs due to their bad DOS extender) are running perfectly. In Vista/Win7 (32-bit) the problem is that they don't support the fullscreen graphics mode anymore, and so they refuse to run these chess programs.

With 64-bit the best method would certainly be to install also a (minimal) 32-bit version of WinXP as dual-boot system.
Or use VirtualPC or VirtualBox and install Win98 as subsystem, I've read that these Virtual systems are much faster than DOS-Box.

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