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HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:53 pm
by velmarin
This not is a comparative, ist curiosity only.
The programs are almost identical, of course are scheduled for the same person, Michal Rudolf.
Although commercial version with Hiarcs engine is included.

ChessX version is totally free, even with the source code to entangle.
http://chessx.sourceforge.net/
Feel free to try ChessX, is a good program and you can add any engine.
Image ChessX:
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Image Hiarcs:
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Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:57 pm
by Karol Majewski

Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:06 pm
by MM
velmarin wrote:This not is a comparative, ist curiosity only.
The programs are almost identical, of course are scheduled for the same person, Michal Rudolf.
Although commercial version with Hiarcs engine is included.

ChessX version is totally free, even with the source code to entangle.
http://chessx.sourceforge.net/
Feel free to try ChessX, is a good program and you can add any engine.
Image ChessX:
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Image Hiarcs:
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Thank you Jose.

P.S. Do you know if chessX has the feature engine vs engine?

Best Regards

Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:26 pm
by velmarin
Not, ist Chess GUI database only.



ChessX Features

Current Features

Multi-platform. Supports Windows, Linux and Mac OS X
Load and save PGN files
Work with multiple databases simultaneously
Browse games, including variations
Enter moves, variations, comments
Setup board, copy/paste FEN
Search header (click on columns in GameList header)
Display opening tree for current position
Analyze using UCI and Winboard/Xboard Chess engines

Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:29 pm
by MM
velmarin wrote:Not, ist Chess GUI database only.






ChessX Features

Current Features

Multi-platform. Supports Windows, Linux and Mac OS X
Load and save PGN files
Work with multiple databases simultaneously
Browse games, including variations
Enter moves, variations, comments
Setup board, copy/paste FEN
Search header (click on columns in GameList header)
Display opening tree for current position
Analyze using UCI and Winboard/Xboard Chess engines
Thank you

Best Regards

Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:23 pm
by Vinvin
velmarin wrote:Not, ist Chess GUI database only.



ChessX Features

Current Features

Multi-platform. Supports Windows, Linux and Mac OS X
Load and save PGN files
Work with multiple databases simultaneously
Browse games, including variations
Enter moves, variations, comments
Setup board, copy/paste FEN
Search header (click on columns in GameList header)
Display opening tree for current position
Analyze using UCI and Winboard/Xboard Chess engines
Is it better than Scid ?

Re: HIARCS Chess Explorer!! vs ChessX Free Chess Database!!

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:43 pm
by hgm
From what I heard it keeps databases on file in PGN format (like XBoard does too, at the moment). So it can never be competitive with SCID, which uses a compact and machine-friendly storage format. It is really a pain to parse SAN, as it requires rule knowledge, and in some cases even legality checking. Of course after having loaded and parsed the PGN game, and converted it to an internal format, searching the database can be fast.

I am considering to add an option to XBoard to save the internal format for every large PGN file you load (say > 1000 games), in a file with the same name, but another extension, so that later loads could substitute the compact database for the PGN. Or perhaps only for the moves. So that tags and comments could still be taken from the original PGN, if needed, but searches on position wuld not need processing of the SAN in the PGN.