An early chess computer

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An early chess computer

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A dramatic portrayal of an early chess computer:

I was not quite eleven years old when this episode of Mission Impossible was first broadcast in 1968, yet somehow I remember much of it. Here is the version dubbed in German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpI8SbbzrSE

Can you identify any of the electronic equipment props, or any of the chess game scores?
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sje wrote:A dramatic portrayal of an early chess computer:

I was not quite eleven years old when this episode of Mission Impossible was first broadcast in 1968, yet somehow I remember much of it. Here is the version dubbed in German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpI8SbbzrSE

Can you identify any of the electronic equipment props, or any of the chess game scores?
Good finding, Steven! :D

I mirrored your post into the more general "chess computers in popular culture" thread, where we already found quite many occurrences :
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38170
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sje wrote:A dramatic portrayal of an early chess computer:

I was not quite eleven years old when this episode of Mission Impossible was first broadcast in 1968, yet somehow I remember much of it. Here is the version dubbed in German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpI8SbbzrSE

Can you identify any of the electronic equipment props, or any of the chess game scores?
I loved that episode and remember seeing it when I was a kid!

But it was funny in retrospect, for example the player winning both rooks only to get mated! And he didn't even realize he was getting checkmated due to a simple 2 move tactic until the mate was delivered!

But still, it was highly entertaining and I loved it. I saw it a few weeks ago on Netflix since it carries all the old mission impossible episodes.
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as always, chess game is presented in a preposterous way. Imagine a master being mated in one move...

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fern wrote:as always, chess game is presented in a preposterous way. Imagine a master being mated in one move...

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This happened to a world champion, a few years ago. ;)

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fern wrote:as always, chess game is presented in a preposterous way. Imagine a master being mated in one move...

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I didn't look too closely at this, but I suspect he could have avoided the checkmate simply by moving a rook that was trapping the king instead of going for the silly 2 rook combination which looked like a beginners game. I don't know if they ever showed the entire board or not but I could probably reconstruct it if they did. It was clear that they at least went to some trouble to get several things correct and the tournament looked real enough with boards and clocks and large displays for the spectators.

To be fair, the segment I'm talking about shows Rolland Hand playing against an unspecified player who might have been a beginner - but it's unlikely because this appears to be a very high level tournament (all the games are on display.)

Anyway, it was thoroughly enjoyable and great fun watching it.
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The Queen getting two rock is a classical in one Andersen game. It almost have no choice because if she retires, the mate follows the same and if the rook move to give room to the king. the Queen is swallowed by the rook. Not even me would fall in such a raid with my queen..

I still do not see a movie without such silly moves regards. The classic scene is this: the hero enter the hall, looks a board and in a fraction of s second see a mate in two that seasoned masters did not see.
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fern wrote:The Queen getting two rock is a classical in one Andersen game. It almost have no choice because if she retires, the mate follows the same and if the rook move to give room to the king. the Queen is swallowed by the rook. Not even me would fall in such a raid with my queen..

I still do not see a movie without such silly moves regards. The classic scene is this: the hero enter the hall, looks a board and in a fraction of s second see a mate in two that seasoned masters did not see.
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Yes, that is hilarious.

My favorite is the one where one guy plays a move after significant thought and announces check, which is answered immediately by the hero with "checkmate" and usually with an astounded look on the losers face!
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Yes, always the same. A mate in one. A knight jumping. The queen sacrificed. The glance of superiority. The loser perspiring as a horse. And of curse the computers appears as invincible. This scene of the comp giving cards with the solution in 3 seconds is hilarious too.
I doubt that in those times they could see a mate in two with less than five minutes times to get the 4 ply.
hahahahaha

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fern wrote:Yes, always the same. A mate in one. A knight jumping. The queen sacrificed. The glance of superiority. The loser perspiring as a horse. And of curse the computers appears as invincible. This scene of the comp giving cards with the solution in 3 seconds is hilarious too.
I doubt that in those times they could see a mate in two with less than five minutes times to get the 4 ply.
hahahahaha

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Hey, I had a big crush on her when I was a kid, don't saying anything bad!

I wonder what the tape deck was for? Maybe that is how the endgame database were stored :-)

The general US population probably believed that computers could play perfect chess back then. Hardly anyone had any concept of computers and what their limitations were. TV and movies didn't help because computers were portrayed sometimes as being super intelligent and even having conversations with people such as Hal in 2001 a space odysey.
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