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Anthony.R.Brown
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Well here is (4) that Will and are out of Book at Move (2)

That's 2 Moves Each!


The A.R.B Chess System - End Game - Game 01 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ISYkbmZSQM

The A.R.B Chess System - End Game - Game 01 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6wc0ps3Qo
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

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Anthony.R.Brown wrote:Well here is (4) that Will and are out of Book at Move (2)

That's 2 Moves Each!


The A.R.B Chess System - End Game - Game 01 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ISYkbmZSQM

The A.R.B Chess System - End Game - Game 01 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6wc0ps3Qo
No engine that I have tried will even consider playing this opening:

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7
8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5

After 2. d4, either d5 or c5 are played by 100% of engines without a book. You state they are out of book at 2... d6, yet I can't get an engine to play 2.. d6 naturally. So how did you?

Even letting it only think at 1 second per move, it won't play it.

You state the move order is important, and in chess it is, but the move order has to actually happen for it to be effective. I've went back as far as Crafty 16.3 and it doesn't even consider 2.. d6.

What do you not understand about what I am saying?

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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Hi duncan

Load Houdini up & set the Fixed Time to 60 Seconds Each Per Move!

Then You will have to Get Houdini to Start E4 Just Because that was how the Game 01 Opening Started!...(Opening Choice this time)

Now Play 1. e6

Houdini Should Now Play 2. d4

Now Play 2. d6

Houdini Should Now be Out of Book!...

And Now let Houdini Play it's 3rd Move Etc.

You just Reply the Moves Below for Black Responding in 60 Seconds Per Move.

You should be able to Duplicate the Game Exactly as Below! as if you are Playing against Houdini yourself :)

The Only Problem is Hardware Differences? as long as you have Quite a Modern Computer Running the 64 Bit Version of Houdini and 2GB + Ram...
Then the Game Play Should be the Same?


1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2
Bb7 9. d5 e5 10. a4 Ne7 11. Ne1 g5 12. Bc4 f5 13. f3 f4 14. Bf2 Ng6 15. Qe2
h5 16. a5 Ke7 17. axb6 cxb6 18. Nd3 b5 19. Bb3 Qc8 20. Rad1 g4 21. Kh1 Bf6
22. Rg1 Nd7 23. Rgf1 Qg8 24. Nb4 Kf7 25. Nc6 Nh4 26. Rg1 Re8 27. Qe1 Qg5
28. Nb1 Reg8 29. c4 g3 30. hxg3 fxg3 31. Be3 Qg4 32. Rf1 Nxf3 33. Rxf3 h4
34. Bf2 h3 35. Rxg3 hxg2+ 36. Kxg2 Qh3+ 37. Kf3 Rxg3+ 38. Bxg3 Nc5 39. Qh1
Qxh1+ 40. Rxh1 Rxh1 41. Bc2 Bxc6 42. dxc6 b4 43. c7 Rh8 44. Nd2 Rc8 45. Nb3
Rxc7 46. Ke2 Na4 47. Na5 Nxb2 48. Be1 Nxc4 49. Nxc4 Rxc4 50. Bd3 Rd4 51.
Bf2 Rxd3 52. Kxd3 Bd8 53. Kc4 a5 54. Ba7 Bc7 55. Be3 Kg6 56. Kd5 b3 57. Bc1
a4 58. Kc4 Bb6 59. Kb4 Be3 60. Bb2 Bd4 61. Ka3 Bxb2+ 62. Kxa4 Kg5 63. Kxb3
Bd4 64. Kc4 Kf4 65. Kd3 Ba1 66. Ke2 Kxe4 67. Kd2 d5 68. Kc2 d4 69. Kb1 d3
70. Kc1 Ke3 71. Kd1 e4 72. Ke1 Kf3 73. Kd1 e3 74. Kc1 Kf2 75. Kb1 e2 76.
Kxa1 d2 77. Kb2 d1=Q 78. Kc3 e1=Q+ 79. Kc4 Qe4+ 80. Kc5 Qda4 81. Kb6 Qec6#
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

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Anthony.R.Brown wrote:Hi duncan

Load Houdini up & set the Fixed Time to 60 Seconds Each Per Move!

Then You will have to Get Houdini to Start E4 Just Because that was how the Game 01 Opening Started!...(Opening Choice this time)

Now Play 1. e6

Houdini Should Now Play 2. d4

Now Play 2. d6

Houdini Should Now be Out of Book!...

And Now let Houdini Play it's 3rd Move Etc.

You just Reply the Moves Below for Black Responding in 60 Seconds Per Move.

You should be able to Duplicate the Game Exactly as Below! as if you are Playing against Houdini yourself :)

The Only Problem is Hardware Differences? as long as you have Quite a Modern Computer Running the 64 Bit Version of Houdini and 2GB + Ram...
Then the Game Play Should be the Same?


1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2
Bb7 9. d5 e5 10. a4 Ne7 11. Ne1 g5 12. Bc4 f5 13. f3 f4 14. Bf2 Ng6 15. Qe2
h5 16. a5 Ke7 17. axb6 cxb6 18. Nd3 b5 19. Bb3 Qc8 20. Rad1 g4 21. Kh1 Bf6
22. Rg1 Nd7 23. Rgf1 Qg8 24. Nb4 Kf7 25. Nc6 Nh4 26. Rg1 Re8 27. Qe1 Qg5
28. Nb1 Reg8 29. c4 g3 30. hxg3 fxg3 31. Be3 Qg4 32. Rf1 Nxf3 33. Rxf3 h4
34. Bf2 h3 35. Rxg3 hxg2+ 36. Kxg2 Qh3+ 37. Kf3 Rxg3+ 38. Bxg3 Nc5 39. Qh1
Qxh1+ 40. Rxh1 Rxh1 41. Bc2 Bxc6 42. dxc6 b4 43. c7 Rh8 44. Nd2 Rc8 45. Nb3
Rxc7 46. Ke2 Na4 47. Na5 Nxb2 48. Be1 Nxc4 49. Nxc4 Rxc4 50. Bd3 Rd4 51.
Bf2 Rxd3 52. Kxd3 Bd8 53. Kc4 a5 54. Ba7 Bc7 55. Be3 Kg6 56. Kd5 b3 57. Bc1
a4 58. Kc4 Bb6 59. Kb4 Be3 60. Bb2 Bd4 61. Ka3 Bxb2+ 62. Kxa4 Kg5 63. Kxb3
Bd4 64. Kc4 Kf4 65. Kd3 Ba1 66. Ke2 Kxe4 67. Kd2 d5 68. Kc2 d4 69. Kb1 d3
70. Kc1 Ke3 71. Kd1 e4 72. Ke1 Kf3 73. Kd1 e3 74. Kc1 Kf2 75. Kb1 e2 76.
Kxa1 d2 77. Kb2 d1=Q 78. Kc3 e1=Q+ 79. Kc4 Qe4+ 80. Kc5 Qda4 81. Kb6 Qec6#
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thanks for the explanation. I do not have a 64 bit windows or the latest version of houdini. could any one else confirm that they get these moves.

thank you


duncan
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Hi duncan...

Sorry about the People Ignoring you! They can do it if they want But!...

When the Truth & Pride Conflict Then!...

Never mind there is always a Way around Such Situations in life!

I have done some Testing and it looks like all Versions of Houdini will

Duplicate the Game 01 :)

So Where the Progress has been made in Different Versions of Houdini is a

Mystery? Except in the Pocket Region! :lol:

More than likely when a Chess Program Cannot see a Way to Progress...

Then...The Extra Calculations/Code ? Mean Nothing!

Anyway Below is the Link to the Houdini Site where you Can Download the

Last Free Strong Version of the Program! (Which is Strong!) Both the 32 bit

and 64 bit Versions are there...So you will have to find out if your

Computer can Run the 64 bit Version! if not then use the 32 bit Version.

If you don't have a Fritz Type of GUI Then I have also Posted the link to

the Arena GUI which is Good! if all this is a bit :) much to understand!

then there is lot's of Internet Help about Installing UCI Engines Etc. just

Google!


http://www.houdinichess.com/

http://www.playwitharena.com/


Take care...

A.R.B
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

Post by supersharp77 »

carldaman wrote:
Anthony.R.Brown wrote:Hi Carl...

Carl's Quote: As stated earlier, 9.d5 may not be the best move for White, so one shouldn't take credit for an inferior move by White.

So again!

The Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line...
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5

None of the on line Chess Data Bases below have my Main System Opening line!
or anywhere else?

The (A.R.B.C.S) is a System for Defeating Computers! and Yes! I will take the Credit! for the Inferior Move Played by (The Worlds Strongest Program!) Rated at 3000+ ELO...That My System Forced Houdini to Play!! Because No Human has Played it Before!!

As I have said many times One can Rattle out Opening Moves that Great Players have Played in the Past & Revolutionary Systems (A.R.B.C.S) without Knowing Why the Moves are Played?

If anyone ever had a System like mine before then they would have Shown & Played it before & Won? Against the Strongest Programs!

I Rest my Case! :)

A.R.B
For what it's worth, I also found a couple of FICS games (from the FICS database) from 2010-11, where 9. d4 e5 was actually played by two 2700+ FICS players. The move 10. h3 was played in both cases, with White winning against much weaker players, who had followed your move order up to that point, more or less. Personally, I like the immediate 10. Ne1 as a clear improvement over Houdini's 10. a4, since White has to get in the f2-f4 push and not allow Black to form a menacing pawn chain by f7-f5-f4.

I am not disputing the strength of the system presented here, since I've played variations of the Hippo myself many times. It is a challenging defense, both against humans and computers, especially when a sound move order is chosen. With correct play, White should retain a clear edge, but correct play can often be so elusive... :-)

I'd like to see more games where this system proves to be successful. It certainly gives the Black player a fighting chance.
Interesting debate....interesting system but similar to the irregular or Hippo/Hedgehog...will browse my irregular databases and see if I can drum up enough games for a pgn file... if so could do some engine tests on it...AR :) :wink:
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

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Don't pay any attention to Anthony R. Clown , just looking for attention!
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Re: Extraordinary claims

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BTE, Erasmus was wrong. He was caught by the sound of the words.. In science many times extraordinary new discoveries and thesis comes from very simple evidence BUT converted in evidence due to another glance.
The full point of newtonian laws comes from the most ordinary experiences and evidences.
The contrary tends to be the case: extraordinary false points requires extraordinary complex proofs. See the case of Tolomeo astronomy.

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Re: The A.R.B Chess System v The Hippopotamus Defence - Diff

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fern wrote:T.J is an old and respected member of this place since lot of years ago. He was an officer in US army and do not like bad treatment. We know for certain that already he killed a guy that looked at him with disrespect.
Beware next time the ring of your door is active.
Perhaps is Tim with his favorite gear, a Clock 9 mm gun.

Better send those 100 games regards



Fern
Hilarious! Sipping Scotch regards!