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Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 moves!!

Post by Father » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:19 am

I return this victorie to my Father.
Thank you my God. My Lord.
Junuary 27/2014


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[pgn][Event "Rated game, 3 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2014.01.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "grand-father"]
[Black "Hurnavich"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "1917"]
[BlackElo "2515"]
[PlyCount "327"]
[EventDate "2014.01.27"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {4} d5 {B 0} 2. e3 {1} e6 {B 0} 3. c3 {1} Nf6 {B 0} 4. f4 {1} c5 {B 0} 5.
Nf3 {2} Be7 {B 0} 6. a3 {2} O-O {-0.26/23 6} 7. Bd3 {3 (Be2)} c4 {-0.35/23 3}
8. Bc2 {1} b5 {10} 9. O-O {-0.23/24 0 (Nbd2)} Nbd7 {5} 10. Re1 {-0.20/24 0
(Nbd2)} Bb7 {-0.28/21 5} 11. Bd2 {1 (Nbd2)} Qc7 {9} 12. Re2 {-0.40/23 0 (Bc1)}
a5 {-0.43/22 3} 13. Be1 {1} Ng4 {-0.37/23 3} 14. g3 {2 (h3)} g6 {-0.42/23 8}
15. Qc1 {1 (Nbd2)} f5 {-0.46/22 4} 16. h4 {3 (h3)} Rfb8 {-0.82/24 15} 17. Nh2 {
1} Ngf6 {-0.80/24 0} 18. Rg2 {3 (Nf3)} b4 {-0.56/23 7} 19. Nf3 {4 (axb4)} b3 {
-0.81/23 3} 20. Bd1 {3} Ng4 {-0.77/24 2} 21. Nh2 {6 (Ne5)} h5 {-0.71/23 6} 22.
Nf3 {6 (Re2)} Ndf6 {-0.73/22 2} 23. Ne5 {10 (Re2)} Kg7 {-0.69/24 4} 24. Nd2 {
7 (Re2)} Nxe3 {-1.05/25 6} 25. Ndf3 {1 (Re2)} Nxg2 {-1.75/23 2} 26. Kxg2 {1
(Ng5)} Qc8 {-1.83/26 7} 27. Ng5 {6} Bf8 {-1.83/30 0} 28. Bf3 {7 (Qe3)} Qe8 {-1.
83/26 2} 29. Bd2 {2 (Bf2)} Kg8 {-1.83/29 2} 30. Qe1 {1 (Be3)} Ra6 {-1.83/25 2}
31. Bc1 {1 (Rb1)} Bg7 {-1.83/29 2} 32. Qd2 {2 (Bd2)} Bc6 {-1.83/29 2} 33. Be2 {
2 (Qe1)} Ne4 {-1.83/27 2} 34. Qe1 {5} Bf6 {-1.83/32 0} 35. Nef3 {7 (Be3)} Rc8 {
-1.83/28 2} 36. Kh3 {2 (Be3)} Rb6 {-1.83/27 1} 37. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rc7 {-1.83/30
2} 38. Kh3 {2 (Be3)} Rb5 {-1.83/29 2} 39. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rbb7 {-1.83/32 2} 40.
Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Re7 {-1.83/28 1} 41. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Bb5 {-1.83/30 1} 42. Kh3 {1
(Be3)} Qc6 {-1.83/26 1} 43. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Qb6 {-1.83/28 1} 44. Kh3 {1 (Be3)}
Rg7 {-1.83/24 2} 45. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rbe7 {-1.83/29 1} 46. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Qb7 {-1.
83/29 1} 47. Kg2 {1} Bc6 {-1.83/32 0} 48. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Qa8 {-1.83/24 2} 49.
Kg2 {1 (Ne5)} Bb5 {-1.83/26 1} 50. Kh3 {1 (Kh2)} Qe8 {-1.83/28 1} 51. Kg2 {1
(Kh2)} Ra7 {-1.83/27 1} 52. Kh3 {1 (Ne5)} Rgb7 {-1.83/26 1} 53. Kg2 {1 (Be3)}
Rc7 {-1.83/27 1} 54. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rab7 {-1.83/26 1} 55. Kg2 {1 (Kh2)} Kf8 {-1.
83/26 1} 56. Kh3 {1 (Kh2)} Re7 {-1.83/27 1} 57. Kg2 {1 (Kh2)} Bg7 {-1.83/28 1}
58. Kh3 {1 (Kh2)} Ra7 {-1.83/29 1} 59. Kg2 {1 (Kh2)} Kg8 {-1.83/30 1} 60. Kh3 {
1 (Kh2)} Rec7 {-1.83/27 1} 61. Kg2 {1} Rcb7 {-1.83/31 0} 62. Kh3 {1} Bc6 {-1.
83/30 0} 63. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rb8 {-1.83/24 1} 64. Kh3 {1 (Ne5)} Re7 {-1.83/27 1}
65. Kg2 {1 (Ne5)} Bb7 {-1.83/25 1} 66. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Nf6 {-1.83/26 3} 67. Kg2 {
1 (Ne5)} Ra8 {-1.77/24 1} 68. Kh3 {1 (Ne5)} Ne4 {-1.76/23 1} 69. Kg2 {1 (Bd2)}
Bf6 {-1.76/24 3} 70. Kh3 {1 (Bd2)} Rb8 {-1.76/27 3} 71. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rc8 {-1.
76/23 1} 72. Kh3 {1 (Bd2)} Bc6 {-1.76/24 0} 73. Kg2 {1 (Kh2)} Rb7 {-1.76/25 1}
74. Kh3 {1 (Bd2)} Rcc7 {-1.76/24 0} 75. Kg2 {1 (Kh2)} a4 {-1.76/25 0} 76. Kh3 {
1 (Be3)} Bg7 {-1.76/22 0} 77. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rb8 {-1.76/24 0} 78. Kh3 {1 (Be3)}
Kh8 {-1.76/23 0} 79. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rbb7 {-1.76/24 0} 80. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Bf8 {-1.
76/25 1} 81. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Bd6 {-1.76/24 0} 82. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Qg8 {-1.76/9 1}
83. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Ra7 {-1.76/24 0} 84. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Ra8 {-1.76/23 0} 85. Kg2 {
1 (Be3)} Kg7 {-1.76/21 0} 86. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Qe8 {-1.76/22 0} 87. Kg2 {1 (Be3)}
Kg8 {-1.76/21 0} 88. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rb7 {-1.76/21 0} 89. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Kf8 {-1.
76/21 0} 90. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rb5 {-1.76/19 0} 91. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Ra7 {-1.76/20 0}
92. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Bc7 {-1.76/21 0} 93. Kg2 {1} Kg8 {-1.76/28 0} 94. Kh3 {1
(Be3)} Bd8 {-1.76/21 0} 95. Kg2 {2} Bf6 {-1.76/33 0} 96. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rb8 {-1.
76/20 0} 97. Kg2 {1} Ra5 {-1.76/27 0} 98. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rb7 {-1.76/21 0} 99.
Kg2 {1} Bg7 {-1.76/27 0} 100. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Bf8 {-1.76/22 0} 101. Kg2 {1 (Ne5)}
Bd6 {-1.76/24 0} 102. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Qe7 {-1.76/20 0} 103. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Bb5 {
-1.76/21 0} 104. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Rb8 {-1.76/19 0} 105. Kg2 {1 (Ne5)} Ra7 {-1.76/
19 0} 106. Kh3 {1 (Bd2)} Qe8 {-1.76/19 0} 107. Kg2 {1} Rab7 {-1.76/29 0} 108.
Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Kf8 {-1.76/20 0} 109. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Bd7 {-1.76/19 0} 110. Kh3 {
1 (Be3)} Rc7 {-1.76/20 0} 111. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Rcc8 {-1.76/19 0} 112. Kh3 {1
(Be3)} Kg8 {-1.76/19 0} 113. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Bc6 {-1.76/21 0} 114. Kh3 {1 (Be3)}
Qd8 {-1.76/15 0} 115. Kg2 {1 (Bd2)} Qd7 {-1.76/19 0} 116. Kh3 {1 (Be3)} Re8 {
-1.76/17 0} 117. Kg2 {1 (Bd2)} Rbc8 {-1.76/18 1} 118. Kh3 {1 (Bd2)} Qc7 {-1.77/
16 0} 119. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Qb6 {-1.86/15 0} 120. Kh3 {1 (Kh2)} Qd8 {-1.72/16 0}
121. Kg2 {1 (Be3)} Nxg5 {-1.56/16 0} 122. hxg5 {1} Qb6 {-1.47/24 0} 123. Kh3 {
1 (Be3)} Kf7 {-1.50/12 0} 124. Kh4 {1 (Kh2)} Kg7 {-1.62/13 0} 125. Bd1 {2 (Kh3)
} Re7 {-1.67/13 0} 126. Qe5+ {5 . (Kh3)} Bxe5 {-7.94/15 0} 127. fxe5 {0 (Nxe5)}
Ree8 {-9.21/18 0} 128. Bf4 {1 (Be3)} Qd8 {-9.08/22 0} 129. Nd2 {3 (Be2)} Bb5 {
-9.08/19 0} 130. Nf3 {1 (Kh3)} Rh8 {-9.08/5 0} 131. Be2 {1 (Kh3)} Rb8 {-9.08/
14 0} 132. Bd1 {0 (Kh3)} Rf8 {0} 133. Be2 {-9.30/8 0 (Kh3)} Bc6 {0} 134. Bd1 {
-9.08/13 0 (Kh3)} Bb7 {0} 135. Be2 {-9.08/6 0 (Kh3)} Kf7 {0} 136. Bd1 {-9.08/7
0 (Kh3)} Ba6 {0} 137. Be2 {-9.08/15 0 (Kh3)} Rh8 {0} 138. Bd1 {-9.08/6 0 (Kh3)}
Bb5 {0} 139. Be2 {-9.08/15 0 (Kh3)} Rg8 {0} 140. Bd1 {-9.08/14 0 (Kh3)} Ba6 {0}
141. Be2 {-9.08/8 0 (Kh3)} Qe7 {0} 142. Bd1 {-9.08/11 0 (Kh3)} Bb5 {0} 143. Be2
{-9.08/12 0 (Kh3)} Rh8 {0} 144. Bd1 {-9.08/15 0 (Kh3)} Bc6 {-9.08/15 0} 145.
Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Ba8 {-9.08/12 0} 146. Bd1 {0 (Kh3)} Rhc8 {-9.08/10 0} 147. Be2 {
0 (Kh3)} Bc6 {0.01/0 0} 148. Bd1 {0} Qd8 {-9.08/17 0} 149. Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Ba8 {
-9.08/12 0} 150. Bd1 {0 (Kh3)} Kg7 {-9.08/15 0} 151. Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Qe7 {0} 152.
Bd1 {-9.08/7 0 (Kh3)} Bc6 {-9.08/10 0} 153. Be2 {1 (Kh3)} Qf7 {-9.08/14 0} 154.
Bd1 {0 (Kh3)} Ra8 {-9.08/16 0} 155. Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Qe7 {-9.08/16 0} 156. Bd1 {
0 (Kh3)} Rcb8 {-9.08/5 0} 157. Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Rb5 {-9.08/6 0} 158. Bd1 {0 (Kh3)}
Bd7 {-9.08/15 0} 159. Be2 {0 (Kh3)} Rbb8 {-9.08/11 0} 160. Bd1 {0 (Kh3)} Kh7 {
-9.08/15 0 '} 161. Be2 {1 (Kh3)} Be8 {0} 162. Bd1 {-9.08/14 0 (Kh3)} Bb5 {-9.
08/9 0} 163. Be2 {1 (Kh3)} Bc6 {0} 164. Bd1 {-9.08/15 0 (Kh3) Time (Lag: Av=0.
51s, max=1.0s)} 1-0

[/pgn] :idea:
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by IGarcia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:07 am

You have to compile all those games into a book. Then it will be great use to be give a copy for study to all chess players in hell as severe punishment by lucifer.

Ignacio

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:43 am

The position is dead drawn.
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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by S.Taylor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:44 am

Very cool idea to exchange the queen for blacks black sq bishop. After that, black cannot break the blockade unless he gives up his queen to do so.

Who knows!!!! I wonder if black should not have taken the queen !!!!

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by Uri Blass » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:39 am

S.Taylor wrote:Very cool idea to exchange the queen for blacks black sq bishop. After that, black cannot break the blockade unless he gives up his queen to do so.

Who knows!!!! I wonder if black should not have taken the queen !!!!
I think that 127.fxe5 was a mistake and black probably could win the game by 127...f4 and later sacrificing a rook at f4 or going with the queen from f5.

I believe that after black allow white to play Bf4 it is a draw so a good test position for chess programs may be the following:

[D]2r5/4r1k1/1qb1p1p1/3pPpPp/p1pP3K/PpP2NP1/1P6/R1BB4 b - - 0 127 bm f4

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by S.Taylor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:24 am

Uri Blass wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:Very cool idea to exchange the queen for blacks black sq bishop. After that, black cannot break the blockade unless he gives up his queen to do so.

Who knows!!!! I wonder if black should not have taken the queen !!!!
I think that 127.fxe5 was a mistake and black probably could win the game by 127...f4 and later sacrificing a rook at f4 or going with the queen from f5.

I believe that after black allow white to play Bf4 it is a draw so a good test position for chess programs may be the following:

[D]2r5/4r1k1/1qb1p1p1/3pPpPp/p1pP3K/PpP2NP1/1P6/R1BB4 b - - 0 127 bm f4
I thought he played 127.Nxe5 from the diagram further above after ...BxQ. If a top computer played fxe5, that seems like it's terrible. Maybe computers are almost as good as needed, even if they will never see a thing like this? Or can this lack of vision affect many other positions and considerations too?

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by overlord » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:34 am

Hello Pablo,

nice queen sacrifice :)

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by Michael Diosi » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:49 am

Hi,

isn't this boring?

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by S.Taylor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:37 am

Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,

isn't this boring?

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I was just imagining sitting opposite Karlsen, kasparov, karpov korchnoi etc in the position after 127.Nxe5 and managing to draw effortlesly, even if i was falling asleep. But then i realized that these above players would have agreed to a draw before i even came the board (if the game was planned to start from that position) because it IS the end of the game at that point.

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Re: Human being beat Stockfish playing without Queen 37 move

Post by zullil » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:57 am

S.Taylor wrote: I thought he played 127.Nxe5 from the diagram further above after ...BxQ. If a top computer played fxe5, that seems like it's terrible. Maybe computers are almost as good as needed, even if they will never see a thing like this? Or can this lack of vision affect many other positions and considerations too?
Pablo played fxe5, not Nxe5. Just look at his post. :wink:

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