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chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:24 am
by notyetagm
The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:08 pm
by bnculp
notyetagm wrote:The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks
The last regression test that I could find is dated 21-01-14
ELO + 32.49

http://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/v ... 025698f817

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:31 pm
by beachknight
notyetagm wrote:The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks
From Stefan's RL, I calculate the approx. ratings difference
as around 30 points.

http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51072

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:13 pm
by notyetagm
beachknight wrote:
notyetagm wrote:The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks
From Stefan's RL, I calculate the approx. ratings difference
as around 30 points.


http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51072
So you're saying Stockfish has gained around 30(!) rating points between the time DD came out and now, which is only a couple of weeks?

WOW!

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:00 pm
by beachknight
notyetagm wrote:
beachknight wrote:
notyetagm wrote:The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks
From Stefan's RL, I calculate the approx. ratings difference
as around 30 points.


http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51072
So you're saying Stockfish has gained around 30(!) rating points between the time DD came out and now, which is only a couple of weeks?

WOW!
Right.
Only as a reference, the average Elo improvement per week for Stockfish in the last 10 months is roughly 3 points. Smile

Regards,

Tom.
I would not be surprised for 4-5 points gain per week in latest 6-8 weeks.
But watch out for so-called regressions for few intermediate compiles.

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:23 pm
by bnculp
So you're saying Stockfish has gained around 30(!) rating points between the time DD came out and now, which is only a couple of weeks?
Stockfish DD was released on Nov 29, 2013. That's about 8 weeks ago :D

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:32 pm
by gerold
notyetagm wrote:
beachknight wrote:
notyetagm wrote:The chessbomb website, which I use religiously, is now using what I believe is the latest Stockfish build, 140127.

http://abrok.eu/stockfish/93f95cc936690 ... _sse42.exe

How much stronger is this than DD? And where and how can I find out for myself?

Thanks
From Stefan's RL, I calculate the approx. ratings difference
as around 30 points.


http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51072
So you're saying Stockfish has gained around 30(!) rating points between the time DD came out and now, which is only a couple of weeks?

WOW!
In my testing SF DD is about 30 elo weaker than previous SF.

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:02 pm
by Eelco de Groot
Hi Gerold,

Are you sure that the new Stockfish is using all cores of your computer? 30 points is a lot, but could be expained when it is using only one core and the older Stockfish more. Number of threads now has to be set to the number of cores you want it to use, and the settings have to be stored in some way. How depends on the GUI you are using.

Regards, Eelco

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:56 pm
by syzygy
Eelco de Groot wrote:Are you sure that the new Stockfish is using all cores of your computer?
He's talking about "SF DD" being weaker than "previous SF". Depending on what he means by "previous SF" this might well confirm the results of the other tests.

Re: chessbomb.com is now using Stockfish 140127: > DD ???

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:23 pm
by gerold
Eelco de Groot wrote:Hi Gerold,

Are you sure that the new Stockfish is using all cores of your computer? 30 points is a lot, but could be expained when it is using only one core and the older Stockfish more. Number of threads now has to be set to the number of cores you want it to use, and the settings have to be stored in some way. How depends on the GUI you are using.

Regards, Eelco
Using SF 4-32bit. on dual core computer. This version is 30 elo stronger, after 500 games (1min.10 secords TC) then SF DD. Same books and same conditions as other engines in this match. Maybe to few games.