A bust in mainline Slav

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NATIONAL12
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A bust in mainline Slav

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1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 dxc4 7.e4 g5 8.Bg3 b5 9.Be2 Bb7 10.0-0 Nbd7 11.Ne5 h5 12.Nxd7 Qxd7 13.Qc1 Rg8 14.Rd1 h4 15.Be5 Qe7 16.h3 a6 17.b3 Nd7 18.Bh2 b4 19.Na4 c3 20.a3 a5 21.Qc2 and now line is busted with either 21...Rc8 or 21...Qf8 as defective.



rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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I would just like to add that no engines find correct next move and I have a 12 core,but a bit of brain power will.

After 21...Rc8 22.Qd3 Ra8 white wins with either 23.Bf3 or 23.Bg4

after 21...Qf6 22.Bg4 wins
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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NATIONAL12 wrote:
[pgn]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 dxc4 7.e4 g5 8.Bg3 b5 9.Be2 Bb7 10.0-0 Nbd7 11.Ne5 h5 12.Nxd7 Qxd7 13.Qc1 Rg8 14.Rd1 h4 15.Be5 Qe7 16.h3 a6 17.b3 Nd7 18.Bh2 b4 19.Na4 c3 20.a3 a5 21.Qc2
[/pgn]

and now line is busted with either 21...Rc8 or 21...Qf8 as defective.



[D]r3kbr1/1b1nqp2/2p1p3/p5p1/Np1PP2p/PPp4P/2Q1BPPB/R2R2K1 b q - 1 21
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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let me show you last game,sorry if I posted incorrect.



http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=28568
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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To anyone who does not understand this line,what I am saying is 14...h4 line is bust.
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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[pgn]
[Event "WBCCC-2014"]
[White "NATIONAL12"]
[Black "Rubén Cómes"]
[WhiteTime "27 days, 15 hours, 6 minutes"]
[BlackTime "18 days, 17 hours, 3 minutes"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 dxc4 7. e4 g5 8. Bg3
b5 9. Be2 Bb7 10. O-O Nbd7 11. Ne5 h5 12. Nxd7 Qxd7 13. Qc1 Rg8 14. Rd1 h4 15.
Be5 Qe7 16. h3 a6 17. b3 Nd7 18. Bh2 b4 19. Na4 c3 20. a3 a5 21. Qc2 Qf6 22.Bg4 1-0

[/pgn]
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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I would like to say my opponent Ruben spent 8 days looking at this position armed with at least one 12 core looking at this position and then resigned,see game link to a team game in this position,posted.
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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Pehaps this link will clarify the position,although it does not make happy reading.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=25029
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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NATIONAL12 wrote:To anyone who does not understand this line,what I am saying is 14...h4 line is bust.
[D]r3kbr1/pb1q1p2/2p1pn2/1p4pp/2pPP3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R1QR2K1 b q - 3 14

Stockfish switches from h4 to a6, but not quickly:

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info depth 48 seldepth 68 score cp 0 nodes 365012966475 nps 19958033 time 18289025 multipv 1 pv a7a6 b2b3 c4b3 a2b3 f8b4 g3e5 f6g4 e5g3 g4f6
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Re: A bust in mainline Slav

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Yes 14...a6 is a better move.