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My main personal desktop is ?

Mac OS X
16
25%
Mint
14
22%
Ubuntu
12
19%
Fedora
10
16%
Debian
5
8%
Mageia / Mandriva
0
No votes
SuSE (any)
2
3%
BSD (any)
1
2%
Slackware
0
No votes
Cent
0
No votes
Arch
2
3%
Gentoo
2
3%
 
Total votes: 64

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by ZirconiumX » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:23 pm

crybotmark wrote:I voted arch linux.
I found it a great minimalistic operating system, when you know what you're doing. Installing a simple window manager instead of a complete desktop enviroment (like lxde or xfce) increased a lot my productivity.
I also voted Arch. Manual install is slightly difficult, and pacman used to be very temperamental, so I used Lubuntu for a while, which was pretty good, and was actually supported, but when pacman was finally fixed, I only ever went to my lubuntu install to rescue Arch when I fubar'd something.

Arch with the Lubuntu eye candy would be my dream OS.

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by mike angel » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:39 pm

Hi Ron

Xfce and KDE are close to each other, on older hardware Xfce is in front
the fastest is the LXDE-Desktop, but it is very spartanic

http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux ... e-the-best

in the end its a question of personal taste which LINUX-Distro you choose

best Mike

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by lucasart » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:58 am

I started using Linux with Ubuntu 9.10. That was fine, and got better with 10.04 and 10.10.

Then the Canonical people decided to create their Unity thing. It was such a pile of crap, and still is. I hated it ever since it came out, in 11.04. Fortunately, with 11.04, you could choose to boot in GNOME 2. In fact, you could remove Unity entirely, without buggering your system completely (since 12.04 you can't, any attempt to remove Unity buggers up everything and leaves you with an unbootable system).

Then 12.04 came out, and with it you could only use Unity. You could install GNOME 3 on top, but it was not super stable, partly because the Ubuntu repo were not up to date (you had to use some PPA). At that point GNOME 3 was a bit weird. It was certainly better than Unity, but it wasn't yet my dream DE. So I had to live with Unity bloatware that I couldn't uninstall (or break the system), and use GNOME 3.

Clearly that was not satisfying, so I decided to look for alternatives. I played with Fedora, and hated it, mainly because of SE Linux, the ton of bloatware do-nothing-useful processes consuming RAM and CPU in the background to do nothing, and the fundamentally broken package management system and their horribly slow and unusable software installer. Not to mention the stability problems, often resulting in leaving you with an unbootable system after an update.

So I had to go back to Ubuntu (for the package mgt system and repository mainly, as well as stability). But I really couldn't get used to Unity. So I played with Lubuntu. I liked it, and still do. But their default apps are rather Spartan. And it was still not super stable at the time. Anyway, it was fine. Not my dream OS, but the closest thing there was to it.

Then I saw that, finally, people had reacted to Canonical's heresy of forcing Unity upon their users instead of migrating naturally from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Ubuntu GNOME was there and started to be stable and useable. So I installes Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 and upgraded to 13.10, which I'm using now.

While I love the beauty of GNOME 3, and the productivity of it (once you know how to use it), there are still two things that annoy me:
1/ the design of GNOME 3 is very integrated. That means any application has a huge and complex dependancy tree in the GNOME 3 ecosystem, so you can't cleanly remove it without breaking the whole thing. Even if you don't like and don't use Evolution (which is a buggy piece of crap), you still can't remove it. It's ok, my hard-drive is big enough for useless software, but it's annoying.
2/ simplification. In general, I agree with the philosophy of GNOME 3 of simplification of the interface to only keep what is useful and leave the useless gadgets. However, they have pushed it to an extreme, and have now (in recent versions) removed things that are really funadamental. For example, you can't browse through your applications in a structured way (like Programs->Accessories->Paint for eg.). You either have to know the name of the app you wanna use (and type or start typing it), or browse through the list of all apps installed.

LXDE does not suffer problems 1/ and 2/. I think I will go back to Lubuntu. Especially because the next version 14.04 will focus on fixing bugs, rather than bringing new cutting edge stuff (with loads of untested buggy stuff). 14.04 should bring some stability to Lubuntu, because all the apps are frozen and in bug fix only mode (they are rewriting LXDE in Qt).
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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by michiguel » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:51 pm

stevenaaus wrote:Please don't vote if your main personal desktop is Windows.
For the rest of us, I'm just wondering what OS/Distro people use.

OS X, Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, Slackware, Mint, Debian, any BSD ??
I confess to wanting to like Mint, and i have a special regard for OS X... but i havent moved on from Fedora 14 as my main desktop.
Does anybody know a reasonable live CD or similar for any version of BSD? goal: compile Gaviota there and test compatibilities.

Miguel

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by IGarcia » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:19 am

michiguel wrote:
stevenaaus wrote:Please don't vote if your main personal desktop is Windows.
For the rest of us, I'm just wondering what OS/Distro people use.

OS X, Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, Slackware, Mint, Debian, any BSD ??
I confess to wanting to like Mint, and i have a special regard for OS X... but i havent moved on from Fedora 14 as my main desktop.
Does anybody know a reasonable live CD or similar for any version of BSD? goal: compile Gaviota there and test compatibilities.

Miguel
I used to be a FreeBSD fan. You probably can get a working live FreeBSD, or try GhostBSD: http://www.ghostbsd.org/about

Ignacio.

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by Jesse Gersenson » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:28 am

K I Hyams wrote: <snip> I do not know of a convenient way to convert .cbv files to .pgn files in Mint</snip>
This thread mentions a cbh to pgn command line tool.
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/Y ... 1314563940

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by K I Hyams » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:11 am

Jesse Gersenson wrote:
K I Hyams wrote: <snip> I do not know of a convenient way to convert .cbv files to .pgn files in Mint</snip>
This thread mentions a cbh to pgn command line tool.
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/Y ... 1314563940
Thank you for that suggestion. It looks like the file mentioned, pgn-extract-17-14.exe, “is designed to make it easy to extract selected games from a PGN format database”, rather than convert into pgn format. Either way, it doesn't run immediately under Wine and so it will need fiddling with before I can test it.

As you will know, .cbv is a container for a number of files and it seems that the actual game data is in the enclosed .cbg file. I will have a closer look at that one

During my preliminary research, I found another file that claimed to do the job but I didn't open it because around 25 of the fifty odd virus programs that Virustotal use to test programs that are submitted reported that it contained various viruses.

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by jdart » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:46 am

www.polarhome.com will set you up with a shell account on your choice of BSD systems (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD) for a one-time fee of 10 units of your local currency, or $2 US, whichever is greater. You can also get VMS, various Unixes, etc.

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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by lucasart » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:26 am

I've just migrated to Lubuntu 14.04 (beta 2). It's really great:
* no useless bells and whistles, just pure productivity. visually it's quite pretty too, but just enough (and wasted screen space is kept to a minimum).
* works flawlessly and is very stable. no bugs so far.

CPU consumption is around 0% and RAM usage is very low.
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Re: Other Operating System Poll

Post by kiroje » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:46 pm

zullil wrote:I've recently left OS X for elementary OS.
I also use ElementaryOS although I Voted for BSD since ive been using that somwhat more in my daily life than ElementaryOS.

The new PC-BSD is quite good, although some small quirks that needs to be ironed out but else quite a nice OS for daily work.

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