I've lately started to take interests in Stockfish code. My Questions are:
1. Can Stockfish improve?
2. How much can Stockfish improve (I've heard sky is the limit)?
3. WHERE can it improve? (Opening, Midgame, or Endgame, or evaluation, or search, or move generation, or code optimization?)
(Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
Would be nice if you would improve the avatar,
very annoying,
is not worthy of a nice guy like you.
Please.
very annoying,
is not worthy of a nice guy like you.
Please.
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
Of course. I'm sorry for my avatarvelmarin wrote:Would be nice if you would improve the avatar,
very annoying,
is not worthy of a nice guy like you.
Please.
I don't know why they're using old phpBB, and why not automatically resizing the images.
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
There is much discussion about the design of the forum,
but we have a sponsor to cover the costs, ect.
Still, if you resize the avatar not read the letters. : (
A personal thing, you can not handle Facebook friends?
Regarding Stockfish, sure there is still much to improve,
There is much to improve in all engines,
but it is difficult to find the balance.
but we have a sponsor to cover the costs, ect.
Still, if you resize the avatar not read the letters. : (
A personal thing, you can not handle Facebook friends?
Regarding Stockfish, sure there is still much to improve,
There is much to improve in all engines,
but it is difficult to find the balance.
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
What do you mean by 'A personal thing, you can not handle Facebook friends?'. I can't get your message.velmarin wrote:There is much discussion about the design of the forum,
but we have a sponsor to cover the costs, ect.
Still, if you resize the avatar not read the letters. : (
A personal thing, you can not handle Facebook friends?
Regarding Stockfish, sure there is still much to improve,
There is much to improve in all engines,
but it is difficult to find the balance.
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
As I pointed here : http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 363#580363 , SF have weaknesses in king safety. "Weak" humans can get advantage from that. It's the difficult to detect the king safety weakness from computer games because it involved sacrifice and it's even harder top detect from self test because the opponent have to use a very different search to play well a king attack.vittyvirus wrote:I've lately started to take interests in Stockfish code. My Questions are:
1. Can Stockfish improve?
2. How much can Stockfish improve (I've heard sky is the limit)?
3. WHERE can it improve? (Opening, Midgame, or Endgame, or evaluation, or search, or move generation, or code optimization?)
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
You do not have
"friend request".
"friend request".
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
I think the more interesting question is, will anyone be able to keep up with Stockfish? Being open-source, you would think SF could never stay on top since others could borrow ideas, but no one else has an army of developers working for free.vittyvirus wrote:I've lately started to take interests in Stockfish code. My Questions are:
1. Can Stockfish improve?
2. How much can Stockfish improve (I've heard sky is the limit)?
3. WHERE can it improve? (Opening, Midgame, or Endgame, or evaluation, or search, or move generation, or code optimization?)
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
I think that the answer is yes because I see lack of interest in developing stockfish that cause the framwork to be often empty.rreagan wrote:I think the more interesting question is, will anyone be able to keep up with Stockfish? Being open-source, you would think SF could never stay on top since others could borrow ideas, but no one else has an army of developers working for free.vittyvirus wrote:I've lately started to take interests in Stockfish code. My Questions are:
1. Can Stockfish improve?
2. How much can Stockfish improve (I've heard sky is the limit)?
3. WHERE can it improve? (Opening, Midgame, or Endgame, or evaluation, or search, or move generation, or code optimization?)
There is a way to prevent it by having many tests with low priority or having tests with longer time control but it seems that it is more important for the leaders to save testing time and note that there is at least a small chance that testing at longer time control or random change of some weight may help to find an improvement.
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Re: (Where)Can Stockfish Improve?
I guess I do: facebook.com/syed.fahad.3133velmarin wrote:You do not have
"friend request".