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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Steve B » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:58 am

Modern Times wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fidelity never actually released the Designer 2400
But maybe you somehow have one in your collection ?
nope
I guess some prototypes do exist but I don't have one
Would love to have one though

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Larry » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:18 pm

The Designer 2400 had the ARM processor, same as RISC2500,
according to wiki.
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by reflectionofpower » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:28 pm

Steve B wrote:
Modern Times wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fidelity never actually released the Designer 2400
But maybe you somehow have one in your collection ?
nope
I guess some prototypes do exist but I don't have one
Would love to have one though

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Steve
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by fern » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:08 pm

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Alexander Schmidt » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:28 pm

reflectionofpower wrote:The Novag Citrine is a very nice high-end dedicated and it is strong enough to beat the majority of humanity.
It is the best deal you can get nowadays but it doesn't come close to one of the old wodden boards. After I got my Citrine I was very disapoointed because of the overall appearance. I would recommend to get a used Mephisto, or a Saitek board (Leonardo, Gallileo or Renaissance) which can also be connected to a PC. And the Citrine programm causes me serious pain compared to the style of the old Kittingers like the Super Expert.

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Eelco de Groot » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:47 pm

Larry wrote:The Designer 2400 had the ARM processor, same as RISC2500,
according to wiki.
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I found a rumour on a page from Dutch collector Hans van Mierlo (not the minister of state by the same name) that this machine was not supposed to have a Spracklen program, or one from Johan de Koning but from Ed Schröder who was probably working for Mephisto then:

http://chesseval.com/ChessEvalJournal/M ... m[quote]In this line, when Mephisto took control of Fidelity, they advertised the Fidelity 2400 Master as a next released computer. In fact, they never released it.
The same is true about the Master 2300.
It seems that in the 2 cases a program by Ed Schroder was included in the project[/quote]
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by fern » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:54 pm

Very probably, at least the Spracklen no-go part. They probably were not anymore considered as in the edge of chess programming after his failure with saitek.
Sch., inversely, was very reputed with his rebel series....

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Larry » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:55 pm

A similar thing happened with a couple of the Saitek models.
The Megathon 2400 was never released in a plastic case
with pressure squares. It was released as modules as the RISC
modules:

http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... athon_2400

Also the Saitek Turbostar2600, which the link below gives as
being released as the Montreux. This one's a bit strange because
the Montreux has a de Koning program:
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... ostar_2600
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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by styx » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:09 pm

My father owns a 1988 Novag Alto. It is still running without any problems.

Although it is not very strong, there is something fascinating about these old computers. They run with tiny programs and with incredible slow hardware and still manage to play legal (and sometimes even good) moves.

Time flies, man :shock:

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Re: The dedicated chess computer thread

Post by Henk » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:20 pm

styx wrote:Time flies, man :shock:
Pigeons see images at least ten times faster than humans do so we are living at least ten times slower than pigeons do.

Pigeons might get very bored it they see us moving.

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