Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:51 pm
Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
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notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
<Infenwe: Wow. This might be one of the most impressive games I've seen this entire season. SF playing down a rook for over 20 moves. Such amazing ability to evaluate compensation for the material.>
[pgn]
[White "Stockfish 231014"]
[Black "Jonny 6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Round "05"]
[Date "Wed Oct 29 2014"]
[WhiteClock "0:04:29"]
[BlackClock "0:32:07"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Be6 4. Nf3 c6 5. Nbd2 b5 6. a4 Nf6 7. axb5 cxb5 8. b3 c3 9. Bxb5+ Bd7 10. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 11. Nb1 Rc8 12. Qc2 Nd5 13. Ba3 e5 14. Bxf8 Kxf8 15. O-O Nb4 16. Qe4 c2 17. Na3 Nf6 18. Qb7 Nfd5 19. Nxe5 Qc7 20. Qb5 a6 21. Qa4 a5 22. Nb5 c1=Q 23. Raxc1 Qxc1 24. h3 Qc2 25. Nd6 Rb8 26. e4 Nb6 27. Qb5 Qc7 28. Ndxf7 Rg8 29. Qxa5 N6d5 30. Qa1 Nf4 31. d5 Nbd3 32. Qa3+ Qe7 33. d6 Qf6 34. d7+ Qe7 35. Qa5 Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Qd6 37. Kh2 Ng6 38. f4 Ke7 39. Nc4 Qd4 40. f5 Nf8 41. Rf2 Qxf2 42. Qe5+ Kxd7 43. Qxb8 Ke7 44. Qe5+ Kd8 45. Qd5+ Ke7 46. Qxg8 Qf4+ 47. Kg1 Qc1+ 48. Kf2 Qf4+ 49. Ke2 Qxe4+ 50. Ne3 Qe5 51. Kf3 h6 52. b4 Ke8 53. Qd5 Qf6 54. Qe4+ Kf7 55. b5 Nd7 56. Qc4+ Ke8 57. Qc8+ Qd8 58. Qxd8+ Kxd8 59. Ke4 Nf8 60. Kd5 Kc8 1-0 [/pgn]
It is an interesting game, but it is not that shocking. SF was a rook down for a while, but have 4 pawns, not to mention the rook was trapped and the king stuck in the middle. So, it was not down in material that much. The compensation was only for R v PPPP.notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
<Infenwe: Wow. This might be one of the most impressive games I've seen this entire season. SF playing down a rook for over 20 moves. Such amazing ability to evaluate compensation for the material.>
[pgn]
[White "Stockfish 231014"]
[Black "Jonny 6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Round "05"]
[Date "Wed Oct 29 2014"]
[WhiteClock "0:04:29"]
[BlackClock "0:32:07"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Be6 4. Nf3 c6 5. Nbd2 b5 6. a4 Nf6 7. axb5 cxb5 8. b3 c3 9. Bxb5+ Bd7 10. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 11. Nb1 Rc8 12. Qc2 Nd5 13. Ba3 e5 14. Bxf8 Kxf8 15. O-O Nb4 16. Qe4 c2 17. Na3 Nf6 18. Qb7 Nfd5 19. Nxe5 Qc7 20. Qb5 a6 21. Qa4 a5 22. Nb5 c1=Q 23. Raxc1 Qxc1 24. h3 Qc2 25. Nd6 Rb8 26. e4 Nb6 27. Qb5 Qc7 28. Ndxf7 Rg8 29. Qxa5 N6d5 30. Qa1 Nf4 31. d5 Nbd3 32. Qa3+ Qe7 33. d6 Qf6 34. d7+ Qe7 35. Qa5 Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Qd6 37. Kh2 Ng6 38. f4 Ke7 39. Nc4 Qd4 40. f5 Nf8 41. Rf2 Qxf2 42. Qe5+ Kxd7 43. Qxb8 Ke7 44. Qe5+ Kd8 45. Qd5+ Ke7 46. Qxg8 Qf4+ 47. Kg1 Qc1+ 48. Kf2 Qf4+ 49. Ke2 Qxe4+ 50. Ne3 Qe5 51. Kf3 h6 52. b4 Ke8 53. Qd5 Qf6 54. Qe4+ Kf7 55. b5 Nd7 56. Qc4+ Ke8 57. Qc8+ Qd8 58. Qxd8+ Kxd8 59. Ke4 Nf8 60. Kd5 Kc8 1-0 [/pgn]
Fully agreed....rabbits23 wrote:Jeffrey : I don't doubt that there are some impressive calculations in the
game but really 3.... Be6? by Jonny . That move goes against all my
understanding of clever chess openings. It locks in Black's E pawn unnecessarily and slows down its game preparation I would thought.
Allan
Roger Brown wrote:notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
Hello Jeffrey,
Isn't there an adage that if you sacrifice a rook and win the game, it is a brilliancy, but if you lose it is the worst blunder ever?
Later.
Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
there are lots of short tournaments.Henk wrote:Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
Maybe long time controls are fine if there would be a strong player giving live comments. Perhaps we need to program an avatar which does that.IGarcia wrote:there are lots of short tournaments.Henk wrote:Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
I also think TCEC is too long to watch live, but I load TCEC website almost every day to see results and replay some games *as fast I wish*
And there is no need to ask nothing but thanks.