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Komodo wins TCEC

Post by Robert Flesher » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:41 pm

Great job by the Komodo team to once again win TCEC!

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by acase » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:54 am

Indeed, well done, it was a good match. It looks like Komodo has a very nice attack going in the last game also.

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by S.Taylor » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:39 am

komodo has obviously won now, and ends with a 3 point lead.
Congrats.

(Did komo win in the past too?)

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by Leto » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:10 am

Congratulations to the Komodo team, that was a tough close match.

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by AdminX » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:35 am

Stockfish played some fine games, displaying some really brilliant attacks and sacrifices. However in the end Komodo displayed some superb defensive technique, and showed some brilliant play of it's own.

Komodo 33.5
Stockfish 30.5

Congratulations Team Komodo
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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by Jhoravi » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:19 am

Good Job Komodo Team!!

But the issue here is the All White Wins. The too long Human made opening must have influenced that result. I suggest to go back to only six Human opening moves and let the engines decide their own path.

Secondly, the opening book should not include piece trades to minimize the draws. Chess is a game with complete set of pieces . Let the engines decide when to trade or not instead of directing them to drawn endings.

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by S.Taylor » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:34 am

AdminX wrote:Stockfish played some fine games, displaying some really brilliant attacks and sacrifices. However in the end Komodo displayed some superb defensive technique, and showed some brilliant play of it's own.

Komodo 33.5
Stockfish 30.5

Congratulations Team Komodo
Which one do YOU think is more ingenious and deep?

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:57 am

Robert Flesher wrote:Great job by the Komodo team to once again win TCEC!
Indeed! Congratulations to Larry and Mark. :)
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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by gladius » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:20 am

Big congratulations to the Komodo team! It was a well fought match. It certainly seems Komodo is scaling better on 16 cores. The NPS increase as the game goes on is very impressive.

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Re: Komodo wins TCEC

Post by M ANSARI » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:29 am

To be honest it seemed like this could have gone either way. Komodo seemed to have a more consistently accurate evaluation, while SF is just tactically incredibly strong. However in this format with very strong hardware and extremely long time controls (for computers that is), Komodo seemed to be able to find incredible defensive resources and in many games came out of crazy tactical melees on top and beat SF at his own game. You would think that SF's incredibly deep search would totally outplay Komodo in the endgame, but I think the opposite was true. Komodo was really impressive in how it was able to come up with very deep plans in fortress like positions and force SF into zugwang and loss of material. I got the feeling that with even longer time controls (or read that as faster hardware), Komodo would open up a gap vs. SF. Also SF seemed to have a weaker time control management algo, as it spent way too much time on some obvious captures and kept falling back on the clock ... however I don't think that would have made a difference in the match as they were no one move blunders caused by not having enough time that I could see.

The most notable game must have been game 57 ... and although it ended up in a draw ... it was an incredible attack by SF that would have floored any other chess entity on earth, however Komodo played a perfect defense and never had its evaluation waver. If this game was played by humans for sure it would have been game of the century and the number of "!" and "!!" and "!!!" on both sides would be astronomical. This game is a good example of how far computer chess engines have come!


[pgn]1. d4 e6 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 O-O 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. Qxc3 b6 7. Bg5 Bb7 8. f3 d6 9. e4 c5 10. dxc5 bxc5 11. Ne2 Nbd7 12. Ng3 h6 13. Bf4 d5 14. cxd5 exd5 15. Bb5 dxe4 16. O-O-O Nd5 17. Rxd5 Bxd5 18. Nf5 Nf6 19. Bxh6 gxh6 20. Rd1 Nh5 21. Rxd5 Qg5+ 22. Ne3 Qg6 23. Ng4 f6 24. Qd2 Rab8 25. Bc4 Kh7 26. Rd6 Rbe8 27. g3 Kh8 28. fxe4 Qxe4 29. Qxh6+ Qh7 30. Rd7 Re1+ 31. Kd2 Qxh6+ 32. Nxh6 Rh1 33. Nf7+ Kh7 34. Ne5+ Kh6 35. Nf3 f5 36. Rxa7 Nf6 37. Ra6 Kg7 38. Rc6 Rb8 39. b3 Rd8+ 40. Kc2 Ne4 41. Be2 Re8 42. Bd3 Rd8 43. Be2 Re8 44. Bc4 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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