Do You Agree With Kasparov?

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Do You Agree With Kasparov?

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Darkmoon
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:07 am

If he was so adamant about finding this situation that unsettling - don't finish the game. make the point in a " calm professional manner" and/or finish the game-which is what he did after his hissy fit.


Or, better yet just calmly claim that he found this situation a breach of his contract and walk out of the center. :roll:

Oh! Check the Center where this is being held that he would have walked out of -makes this even more laughable his taking this all that seriously.

This entire episode is made to look ridiculous against this setting.



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Terry McCracken
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Terry McCracken » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:27 am

Darkmoon wrote:If he was so adamant about finding this situation that unsettling - don't finish the game. make the point in a " calm professional manner" and/or finish the game-which is what he did after his hissy fit.


Or, better yet just calmly claim that he found this situation a breach of his contract and walk out of the center. :roll:

Oh! Check the Center where this is being held that he would have walked out of -makes this even more laughable his taking this all that seriously.

This entire episode is made to look ridiculous against this setting.


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We get it, you don't like Kasparov.
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:51 am

On the contrary! Far from it. He is politically and actively astute-not afraid to speak up against the government. And, yes, the greatest chess player of all times.

But he tends to have strong emotive behaviors that make him look Uncouth over shadowing the point he "has all ready made" in the drowning of the of the same point he continues to make.

I still think the issue is more about him than " simultaneous exhibition"!!!
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Terry McCracken » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:54 am

Darkmoon wrote:On the contrary! Far from it. He is politically and actively astute-not afraid to speak up against the government. And, yes, the greatest chess player of all times.

But he tends to have strong emotive behaviors that make him look Uncouth over shadowing the point he "has all ready made" in the drowning in the point he continues to make.
That's just part of his makeup and without that drive he would never have become one of the greatest if not the greatest chess player the world has ever known. IMO.
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:57 am

I agree!

But then we are talking about self-awareness.

The cue here is that it was an " exhibition"

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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Terry McCracken » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:34 am

Darkmoon wrote:I agree!

But then we are talking about self-awareness.

The cue here is that it was an " exhibition"
That's Kasparov...One of the John McEnroe(s) of Chess. :twisted:
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:35 am

There you go! :)

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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:37 am

Just don't hold a " simultaneous exhibition" on Sesame Street!

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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by carldaman » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:15 am

The importance of knowing the skill of your opponent in a chess simul is reminsiscent of being at a poker table, where skilled players often strike up conversations with other players to gauge their 'level'. Poker does not have ratings but has 'levels' of thinking, which require different playing approaches from the stronger players.

Regards,
CL
bob wrote:
Darkmoon wrote:I'm not sure I fully understand Mr. Kasparov issue playing someone whose game was " being assisted by a 2200 player". Mr. Kasparov, per wiki at his peak was -a 2851 player! :shock:

He could be assisting the 2200 player - seemingly- without breaking into a sweat. But! In the youtube video he was mopping his brow!

Personally, I think he was out of shape in the performance department and didn't realize just out how much out of shape he was when it came to the "concentration department" !

I just don't believe him to be the kind of guy who will readily admit to this kind of embarrassment

It must also be remembered that Kasparov has a history of doing things his own way!

Take for example this episode Re: Kasparov touch-move controversy

During her match [Judit Polgar] with Kasparov in the fifth round, the World Champion changed his mind after taking his hand off a piece, and moved the piece to a different square.[86][87] According to chess rules, once a player has released a piece, he cannot make a different move, so Kasparov should have been required to play his original move. Polgár said she did not challenge this because "I was playing the World Champion and didn't want to cause unpleasantness during my first invitation to such an important event. I was also afraid that if my complaint was overruled I would be penalized on the clock when we were in time pressure." She was unaware at the time that the re-move was caught on tape by a television crew the videotape showed that Kasparov's fingers were free of the knight for about a quarter of a second: The tournament director was criticised for not forfeiting Kasparov when the videotape evidence was made available to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r

In other words, he just doesn't like losing if he can help it, and if he can figure out a workable excuse on the fly ... :lol:

Edit:

Deep Blue!? This is who he is! This is one of his foibles.


However, that may be it does not negate the fact-obviously! that he is one of the greatest chess players of all time- if not the greatest.
I think the issue is different than what you suspect. I've played a number of simuls over the years, and I would generally either know the opponents or if there was someone playing I did not know, I would chat with him for a minute or two. Because knowing the skill level of your opponent is an important piece of information. I was never more than a mid-2200 USCF player, but I still "played my opponent". If I knew he was a 1400 player I would play much more aggressively, with the intent of getting the easy games out of the way so that I could spend more time with the 1800-1900 players. I would not raise a stink about it, but I would certainly prefer to know what was what...

Darkmoon
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Re: Do You Agree With Kasparov?

Post by Darkmoon » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:53 am

In poker you're watching each player in how they react when they are caught in a bluff; when they find themselves with a good hand; when they "think" they have a sure hand and then in time get shaky, etc-

But even in poker like in chess Bob is right- the pro will weed out the weak player against the pros in spending the necessary time in learning each others tells in behavior.

If I'm playing OTB with a stranger- my concentration is on the board not on the players personality.

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