Maybe we should not only consider the elo points but also the ego points and add them upGraham Banks wrote:With all due respect, if this is you - http://chess-db.com/public/pinfo.jsp?id=2905850 - there are many members here with much higher ratings.
Although I really do admire your trying to point out weaknesses in engines to try and encourage authors to improve them, I don't think that you should be confidently coming across as a complete authority on whether certain positions are definitely won, drawn or lost.
Hope you don't take this the wrong way.
Graham.
Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959
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OK, my computer is available again for a while. I took the opportunity to compile a cutting-edge Stockfish, which runs about 20% faster on my 16-core system. However, I haven't been able to carefully test this new version. This will be SF's excuse when it loses.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qd8
[d]3q4/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BRQ3/8 w - - 0 21
SF plays Ra1 with evaluation still at 0:
[D]3q4/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 3 25
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Yeah, that is me.Graham Banks wrote:With all due respect, if this is you - http://chess-db.com/public/pinfo.jsp?id=2905850 - there are many members here with much higher ratings.
Although I really do admire your trying to point out weaknesses in engines to try and encourage authors to improve them, I don't think that you should be confidently coming across as a complete authority on whether certain positions are definitely won, drawn or lost.
Hope you don't take this the wrong way.
Graham.
My highest FIDE elo was 2111, my highest Bulgarian elo 2202.
Basically Bulgarian elo is the same as FIDE elo, just the games are played sometimes with no increment, or at least used to be played.
But Graham, that was 10 years ago, even Rybka had not appeared at that time.
I can say that, in the last 10 years, I have worked 4 times more on chess than in the years before, from when my rating dates.
So, it is reasonable to suppose, that if my rating was 2200 back then, if you improve 4 times more, how high would your rating get, even if you do not compete officially?
I suppose much higher.
I started with around 2000 FIDE elo after my first tournament, and I added 100 points in only 20-30 FIDE-rated games.
I started with also around 2000 Bulgarian elo and ended with 2200, playing some 50-100 rated-games in the process.
So that my FIDE elo is low and my Bulgarian elo higger, simply because I played very few games for FIDE elo, as I have always been busy professionally. If I had played more games, of course my elo would have climbed.
Currently, without competing officially anywhere, I have no doubts my objective strength is in no way lower than 2500 FIDE elo, and I do not care who will laugh and who not, I absolutely do not care.
But there is one more thing, I do not like to compete when it is noisy, and that is one more reason why I never scored very well in competitive chess. In a bit quieter milieu, I really play much much better, I do not know how much, but really much much better...
Also, how strong you are also very much depends on how much time you devote to chess and, although I am not a professional chess player, in the last couple of years I have decided to specifically pay much more attention to chess.
And one lat thing: even back 10 years ago I war really stronger than what my rating my rating might suggest. In the last tournament I played competitively, for example, for Bulgarian elo, I scored 5 out of 6, with a performance of around 2400, beating GM Radulov, drawing GM Lyuben Spassov (the 2005 senior world champion) on time in a totally won position with a knight more, beatl several other IMs and masters, so I really think I was much better even back then, only that I devoted only very small amount of my energy to chess.
Now I would like to devote more.
I looked for the links of my last tournament, but somehow can not find them...
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Qa8zullil wrote:OK, my computer is available again for a while. I took the opportunity to compile a cutting-edge Stockfish, which runs about 20% faster on my 16-core system. However, I haven't been able to carefully test this new version. This will be SF's excuse when it loses.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qd8
[d]3q4/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BRQ3/8 w - - 0 21
SF plays Ra1 with evaluation still at 0:
[D]3q4/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 3 25
[d]q7/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 22
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SF plays Qd1 with score 0:Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qa8
[d]q7/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 22
[D]q7/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BR4/R2Q4 b - - 5 26
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R7b6zullil wrote:SF plays Qd1 with score 0:Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qa8
[d]q7/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 22
[D]q7/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BR4/R2Q4 b - - 5 26
[d]q7/4k3/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BR4/R2Q4 w - - 0 23
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SF plays Ra2 with evaluation 0.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: R7b6
[d]q7/4k3/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BR4/R2Q4 w - - 0 23
[D]q7/4k3/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BR4/3Q4 b - - 7 27
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Kf7zullil wrote:SF plays Ra2 with evaluation 0.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: R7b6
[d]q7/4k3/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BR4/R2Q4 w - - 0 23
[D]q7/4k3/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BR4/3Q4 b - - 7 27
[d]q7/5k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BR4/3Q4 w - - 0 24
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Rh2 with evaluation 0.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Kf7
[d]q7/5k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BR4/3Q4 w - - 0 24
[D]q7/5k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 b - - 9 28
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Qb7zullil wrote:Rh2 with evaluation 0.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Kf7
[d]q7/5k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1BR4/3Q4 w - - 0 24
[D]q7/5k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 b - - 9 28
[d]8/1q3k2/1r4p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/R1B4R/3Q4 w - - 0 25