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Re: My new book is out: Noomen.ctg

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Thanks Damar, that worked perfectly.
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Can you please make it available for use in Arena Gui - format abk. Thanks in adcance
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Re: My new book is out: Noomen.ctg

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Jeroen wrote:It has been over six years ago since my last official book was released, Rybka3.ctg. Now there finally is a successor: Noomen.ctg. And the good news is, that the book is free. You can download it from the following url:

http://rebel13.nl/download/books/

Enjoy.
Many thanks Jeroen for this gift.
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mike angel wrote:Can you please make it available for use in Arena Gui - format abk. Thanks in adcance
I support this wish. The community love the free GUI by Martin Blume.
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Re: My new book is out: Noomen.ctg

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Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
mike angel wrote:Can you please make it available for use in Arena Gui - format abk. Thanks in adcance
I support this wish. The community love the free GUI by Martin Blume.
A Polyglot book would be better by far because it is not bound to certain GUI.
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It seems the link has changed to:

http://rebel13.nl/download/books.html

Regarding the request for an Arena book: if you know a tool that can easily port the book from CTG to ABK format, no problem. But a whole new book would take months (if not more) of work and I do not have the time to take on another project :-).
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Guenther wrote:
Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
mike angel wrote:Can you please make it available for use in Arena Gui - format abk. Thanks in adcance
I support this wish. The community love the free GUI by Martin Blume.
A Polyglot book would be better by far because it is not bound to certain GUI.
I have got source code from someone (not sure if he wants to be mentioned) that can read the CTG format and then it would be easy to create a PGN from that for the conversion to Polyglot. Problem is, at its current state it only handles the white repertoire, no sign of the black reportoire. And I quickly gave up, hacking is annoying, frustrating, not my cup of tea. But perhaps someone else has the patience to finish the job, that is, if the other someone else has no objections.
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Hello Jeroen:
Jeroen wrote:It seems the link has changed to:

http://rebel13.nl/download/books.html

Regarding the request for an Arena book: if you know a tool that can easily port the book from CTG to ABK format, no problem. But a whole new book would take months (if not more) of work and I do not have the time to take on another project :-).
Thanks for sharing your book. I found a suggestion in a try to do a CTG to PGN conversion:

How to convert Chessbase format files to .pgn?

But I can not download the file of 272 MB: it has stopped twice after getting 179 MB. Then I tried to open it and it says something like 'damaged or incomplete file'. Anyway, I only wanted to bring that method, just in case it works.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
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Jeroen wrote:It has been over six years ago since my last official book was released, Rybka3.ctg. Now there finally is a successor: Noomen.ctg. And the good news is, that the book is free. You can download it from the following url:

http://rebel13.nl/download/books/

Enjoy.
A very interesting and in some lines truely original and impressive opening book you provided here, Jeroen. I've spent some time studying your lines in the Marshall in detal by now, and I think probably even titled players who play it can benefit considerably from your work, kudos.

I have a technical question on the suggested settings in Chessbase GUI though.

Why the "Influence=0"? How will this affect the actual learning process and will it even take place at all?

TIA and most respectful greetings,
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Re: My new book is out: Noomen.ctg

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Guenther wrote:
Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
mike angel wrote:Can you please make it available for use in Arena Gui - format abk. Thanks in adcance
I support this wish. The community love the free GUI by Martin Blume.
A Polyglot book would be better by far because it is not bound to certain GUI.
Here is one way to extract games from a ctg book.

* Fritz has a match engine mode
* sf 7 plays with noomen book with normal setting, and other book settings you like, perhaps increase play variety.
* sf dev plays with noomen book with optimized setting, and other book settings
* set TC to 1 ply to finish the game quickly
* set move limit to 0, so that the game is terminated once both is out of book, plus 1 move from one engine doing a search with given TC

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[Event "create_book_from_ctg, 1 Ply / 1 Ply"]
[Site "Blue"]
[Date "2016.06.02"]
[Round "172.2"]
[White "Stockfish 7 64 POPCNT"]
[Black "Stockfish 180116 64 POPCNT"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "A25"]
[PlyCount "21"]

{ 128MB, Noomen.ctg, Blue }

1. c4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 1... e5 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] }
2. e3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 2... Nf6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]
} 3. Nc3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 3... Nc6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt
0:00:00] } 4. e4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 4... Bc5 { [%eval 0,0]
[%emt 0:00:00] } 5. Be2 { [%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 5... d6 { [%eval
0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 6. Nf3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00] } 6... O-O {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 7. O-O { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 7... Bg4
{ [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 8. d3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 8...
Bxf3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 9. Bxf3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] }
9... Nd4 { [%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 10. g3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt
0:00:00] } 10... Nxf3+ { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] Both last book move }
11. Qxf3 { [%eval -50,1] [%emt 0:00:00] } *
* Chopped off that last move

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11. Qxf3 { [%eval -50,1]
having a depth of 1 in comment.

* Convert chessbase format games to pgn.
* Remove duplicate using say pgn-extract

You now have some games, where you favor the side of games played by sf dev because the book setting is optimized.

I tried this setting (without chopping off the last move in a game) and I got around 2000 games in around 10 minutes.
Duplicate games is around 30% so you still have a net of around 1400 games in that time frame alone.