Engines with Fantastic Style List

[BrendanJNorman]

Here are some more engines. These I played for a good many years during the height of my computer chess frenzy.


Bright 0.4a in my opinion is the engine that is able to turn ordinary positions into unique, chaotic and messy situations at a relatively frequent rate. Think Morozevich or a prime Speelman.

I've heard some good things about Glass also.

Glaurung 1.2.1 was also known to have played aggressively.

Chess Tiger 14.0, when playing against 2200-2600 rated engines, exhibit the playing style of the young Karpov - positional, tactically surefooted and a knack to go into the endgame.

Shredder 5 (Millenium Chess edition), world champion in 2000 / 2001, exhibits a smart, active style with a knack for sacrificing a single pawn in almost every game for some positional advantage with human-like willingness. I believe this trait was completely misunderstood by early programs, and thus Shredder was able to overwhelm its opponents in its heyday.

Fritz 6 of course exhibits a very pure, early computer-like style which is still interesting to watch nowadays (if it plays vs humans). pure Spider tactics. Very tough to play against, it would wear you down by making you calculate the tactical consequences in every move.

Virtual Chess 2 plays like a steamroller especially in blitz against humans. Its moves are tactical but more simple, and difficult to outplay. Fritz 6 was tactically fancier. Virtual Chess 2 was more direct, brutal and clear.

Junior 6.0 is another steamroller, but with a willingness to move its h-pawn or a-pawn forward in almost every game, and it plays so differently compared to Junior 7. Junior 6 was the more positionally-inclined Fritz 6. I could say its style goes like this: It like to put its opponents in a vice grip and then when it does, rarely do its opponents get away.

Rybka 3 - A level above all these engines I mentioned... think a boxer with a haymaker punch ready at all times. It plays aggressively for its strength, and most of the time it nets the win using a tacticall Hammer at the end. Very interesting to watch.

Now of course with the increase in playing strength of the field, I notice these engines tend to lose their 'playing style'. I think in order for them to exhibit their special character, you have to allow them to play vs similar era / similar strength opponents.

Good additions and great point at the end. I would only add that they really shine against weaker opposition, too. Similar to Brendan, I like using weaker "cannon fodder" opponents facing off against interesting engines. You can get a lot of brilliancies that way.

CL

Been reading my blog, mate?

Exactly, an engine with an amazing style like Junior 7 or Hiarcs 8 Bareev (two opposing sides of the style spectrum) just looks ridiculous against almost any modern engine.

Put em against WChess 1.6, ZChess 2.0, Phalanx, AnMon and you'll see the real beauty in their play.

By the way fellas... Due to the mentions of Amyan in this thread, I did a test and YES indeed, it plays like Karpov!

Very nice engine as well.

Yes, excellent blog, Brendan. Keep up the good work!
It is great to see others with a preference of style over strength.

Thank you!

Yes exactly. Seeing all of the talk over squeezing tiny ELO point gains out of engines at the top these days bores me to tears.

Even Toga Chekov is strong enough for 99.9% of non-GM's to use for analysis these days and has a logical, human-Grandmaster like style.

These engines we use are like asking a very decent Grandmaster "Hey, what would you do here?" and I love this.

No need for 3300 ELO level analysis when you aren't strong enough to comprehend the ideas coming 30 ply down the line.

Even Magnus and co often have to dig deeper to understand what the hell is the point behind an engine's suggestion!

[carldaman]

Here are some more engines. These I played for a good many years during the height of my computer chess frenzy.


Bright 0.4a in my opinion is the engine that is able to turn ordinary positions into unique, chaotic and messy situations at a relatively frequent rate. Think Morozevich or a prime Speelman.

I've heard some good things about Glass also.

Glaurung 1.2.1 was also known to have played aggressively.

Chess Tiger 14.0, when playing against 2200-2600 rated engines, exhibit the playing style of the young Karpov - positional, tactically surefooted and a knack to go into the endgame.

Shredder 5 (Millenium Chess edition), world champion in 2000 / 2001, exhibits a smart, active style with a knack for sacrificing a single pawn in almost every game for some positional advantage with human-like willingness. I believe this trait was completely misunderstood by early programs, and thus Shredder was able to overwhelm its opponents in its heyday.

Fritz 6 of course exhibits a very pure, early computer-like style which is still interesting to watch nowadays (if it plays vs humans). pure Spider tactics. Very tough to play against, it would wear you down by making you calculate the tactical consequences in every move.

Virtual Chess 2 plays like a steamroller especially in blitz against humans. Its moves are tactical but more simple, and difficult to outplay. Fritz 6 was tactically fancier. Virtual Chess 2 was more direct, brutal and clear.

Junior 6.0 is another steamroller, but with a willingness to move its h-pawn or a-pawn forward in almost every game, and it plays so differently compared to Junior 7. Junior 6 was the more positionally-inclined Fritz 6. I could say its style goes like this: It like to put its opponents in a vice grip and then when it does, rarely do its opponents get away.

Rybka 3 - A level above all these engines I mentioned... think a boxer with a haymaker punch ready at all times. It plays aggressively for its strength, and most of the time it nets the win using a tacticall Hammer at the end. Very interesting to watch.

Now of course with the increase in playing strength of the field, I notice these engines tend to lose their 'playing style'. I think in order for them to exhibit their special character, you have to allow them to play vs similar era / similar strength opponents.

Good additions and great point at the end. I would only add that they really shine against weaker opposition, too. Similar to Brendan, I like using weaker "cannon fodder" opponents facing off against interesting engines. You can get a lot of brilliancies that way.

CL

Been reading my blog, mate?

Exactly, an engine with an amazing style like Junior 7 or Hiarcs 8 Bareev (two opposing sides of the style spectrum) just looks ridiculous against almost any modern engine.

Put em against WChess 1.6, ZChess 2.0, Phalanx, AnMon and you'll see the real beauty in their play.

By the way fellas... Due to the mentions of Amyan in this thread, I did a test and YES indeed, it plays like Karpov!

Very nice engine as well.

Yes, excellent blog, Brendan. Keep up the good work!
It is great to see others with a preference of style over strength.

Thank you!

Yes exactly. Seeing all of the talk over squeezing tiny ELO point gains out of engines at the top these days bores me to tears.

Even Toga Chekov is strong enough for 99.9% of non-GM's to use for analysis these days and has a logical, human-Grandmaster like style.

These engines we use are like asking a very decent Grandmaster "Hey, what would you do here?" and I love this.

No need for 3300 ELO level analysis when you aren't strong enough to comprehend the ideas coming 30 ply down the line.

Even Magnus and co often have to dig deeper to understand what the hell is the point behind an engine's suggestion!

The biggest problem with pure strength for strength's (or Elo's) sake, is that, despite giving something us relatively close to the ultimate 'truth', these same engines may fail to deliver creative ideas that work well against very imperfect players. The built-in assumption on the typical top engines' part is that the opponent can also see 'everything', and that kills off most speculative attempts since they are viewed as mostly unsound. This can make many of the top engines less than ideal study and training partners. Most people may disagree, but that's how I see it.


Now, for more on this topic, please check out these posts I made in Feb 2013.

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 87&t=47169

and

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 85&t=47169

Cheers,
CL

[IGarcia]

Can anyone recommend some 'weaker' (2400, 2200, 2000, 1800) engines, preferably UCI, that exhibit good style?

Look in the next list, full of engines in the range you are asking, but can't tell about their styles.

SOURCE: http://adamsccpages.blogspot.com.ar/p/a ... -list.html

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Rating List (as of June 9, 2013)

#   ENGINE                   Elo   #Games  (%)
1   Latista (Sinobyl) 1.5    2200.5 2631 46.90%
2   Madeleine 0.2            2200.1 2637 48.30%
3   Alex 2.03                2198.2  644 53.20%
4   Atlas 2.20               2197.7 2797 49.30%
5   Beowulf 2.4a 32-bit      2197.2 1874 47.70%
6   Uralochka 1.1b           2194.0 1686 50.70%
7   Shallow 1.0 64-bit       2191.8 1240 48.70%
8   Feuerstein 0.4.6.1       2191.0  795 69.70%
9   Atak 6.8                 2187.3 1994 48.20%
10  Firefly 2.6.0 64-bit     2187.3 1085 48.00%
11  Neurosis 2.3             2185.1   96 20.80%
12  Chesley r323 64-bit      2177.0  455 71.90%
13  Genesis 2.0              2175.6 2771 51.20%
14  InmiChess3.06N           2169.0 3723 50.30%
15  BlackBishop 1.0          2166.1 2837 47.70%
16  Kurt 0.9.2.2 64-bit      2157.4 1922 51.00%
17  Sunsetter 10.3 64-bit    2153.0 2144 51.60%
18  Lime 66                  2152.7 4067 46.60%
19  NagaSkaki 5.12           2148.8 2059 45.60%
20  Alarm 0.93.1             2147.2 3107 52.60%
21  Nesik 0.7.0 alpha        2146.0 2617 49.40%
22  Fortress 1.62            2139.7 4070 50.70%
23  WJChess 1.64             2137.7 3235 49.50%
24  Adam 3.2                 2129.7 1552 49.70%
25  Bearded 06-29            2128.7 1277 64.10%
26  Hussar 0.1               2124.8 1135 56.60%
27  TJchess 0.121R           2121.7  765 50.70%
28  KnockOut 0.7.1 32-bit    2117.6 1219 54.30%
29  GK 0.90 64-bit           2115.0 2313 49.00%
30  Alf 1.09                 2110.6 1666 50.50%
31  Ghost 0.14               2105.4 1530 51.40%
32  Clarabit 1.00 64-bit     2104.8 1527 48.20%
33  Wing 2.0a                2101.8 3515 51.00%
34  Uragano 3D 0.87          2096.8 1896 53.60%
35  BikJump 2.01 64-bit      2091.0 2289 50.00%
36  Myrddin 0.83k 64-bit     2087.1 1278 51.30%
37  Rhetoric 0.10.d          2083.6 1525 45.70%
38  Prophet 2.0 Epsilon 2    2081.2   26 40.40%
39  Parrot 070722            2081.2 1606 50.30%
40  King's Out 0.2.42        2065.3 1038 53.30%
41  Matheus 2.3              2061.7 3715 48.50%
42  Dolphin 1.0              2061.0 1291 46.00%
43  Monarch 1.7              2057.2 2510 53.60%
44  Bodo 0.2b                2054.2 2591 46.50%
45  ChessMind 0.82           2053.8 1330 50.30%
46  Gerbil 0.2 64-bit        2044.7 2688 53.00%
47  Jabba 1.0 64-bit         2042.9 1335 50.80%
48  Ax 0.8                   2042.5 2669 43.60%
49  Bestia 0.90              2042.4 3907 46.70%
50  RDChess 3.23             2042.0 1974 53.40%
51  ZCT 0.3.2500 64-bit      2033.5  805 51.40%
52  ProChess 101CN           2031.0 1394 53.30%
53  PLP 1661571              2029.5 1397 53.00%
54  Zeta Dva 0210 64-bit     2022.5 1072 50.70%
55  Freyr 1.068 64-bit       2022.1  410 55.20%
56  Gibbon 2.01b             2020.1  272 42.60%
57  DelphiMAX 2.9            2017.8 2352 45.10%
58  Requiem 0.53             2007.6 2003 49.50%
59  AdroitChess 0.3          2004.9  999 58.10%
60  Sjaak 399                2001.8 1038 48.30%
61  Armageddon 2.308         2001.7 1939 48.50%
62  Cupcake 1.0              1994.5 1172 44.20%
63  BigLion 2.23x            1994.2 4049 46.50%
64  Elephant 1.06            1994.0 2417 46.80%
65  FrankWalter 1.08         1994.0 1477 48.10%
66  Small Potato 0.6.1       1992.5 2985 49.60%
67  Bubble 1.5               1989.5 1488 48.20%
68  Gullydeckel 2.16pl1      1986.2 2418 51.20%
69  Faile 1.4.4              1978.7 4220 43.50%
70  Etude 0.1.2              1973.4 1499 48.60%
71  Cilian 4.14              1973.1 2231 46.70%
72  Monik 2.2.3 64-bit       1973.0 1311 50.20%
73  SSEChessII 2.05 DC       1972.4 2809 53.40%
74  Matant 5.04              1971.9 1614 55.40%
75  BSC 3.9                  1968.9 1049 50.70%
76  La Dame Blanche 2.0c     1967.8 1557 53.10%
77  Soldat III 0.172         1967.2 1102 50.50%
78  Marvin 1.3.0             1966.0 3859 47.60%
79  JanWillem 1.13           1961.1 3188 47.30%
80  Rival 1.18               1953.5 2745 52.60%
81  Micro-Max 4.8            1953.2 4186 47.00%
82  Mustang 4.97             1943.8 1935 52.00%
83  ChessKISS 1.3            1942.7 1806 52.50%
84  Sharper 0.17             1940.3 2574 44.90%
85  Protej 0.57              1938.9  401 45.50%
86  Smash 1.0.3              1929.7 3367 48.90%
87  BibiChess 0.5            1922.2 2828 49.30%
88  IACH 0.56z               1920.7 2016 54.60%
89  Eagle 0.7.5              1915.7 2397 52.30%
90  Dabbaba 7.49             1915.3  969 46.90%
91  Clueless V1.4            1912.9 3647 51.90%
92  BamBam                   1910.0 1423 42.90%
93  Warrior 1.0.3            1903.9 3104 51.30%
94  SnailChess 4.013         1899.5 2194 55.00%
95  Morphy 3.22              1896.6 2074 53.70%
96  Purple Haze 2.1.0        1883.1 1041 51.00%
97  Surprise 4.3b13          1882.7 1102 47.30%
98  MrChess 2.1              1872.9  404 58.90%
99  SamChess                 1871.0  406 58.60%
100 MadChess 1.0 64-bit      1865.8  948 44.60%
101 Roce 0.0390              1857.8 1777 49.80%
102 Simontacchi 1.81         1856.6 1718 56.70%
103 HeavyChess 0.13 beta     1850.6  402 59.80%
104 Celes 0.77c              1848.1 1661 54.90%
105 Tyrell 1.02              1836.6  405 53.80%
106 JARS 1.75a               1836.5  400 57.90%
107 FreeChessII 2.17         1835.8  401 53.70%
108 Ajedrez Tactico 2.73b    1834.2 1184 53.00%
109 MatMoi 7.15.0-cct        1827.9 1045 54.30%
110 NoonianChess 3206P2      1827.7  395 56.60%
111 Ranita 2.4               1826.1 1869 51.70%
112 Arabian Knight 1.51      1826.1  398 52.40%
113 RataAeroespacial 0.2.1   1824.3 1064 53.70%
114 Predateur 2.1 64-bit     1811.7 1933 49.30%
115 Cecir 3.5                1805.8 1854 49.80%
116 Milady 3.04              1805.6  782 48.10%
117 Beaches 2.32             1805.2 2109 46.80%
118 Enigma 1.1.4             1803.9 1555 52.60%
119 Grizzly 1.40.1b          1784.2 2112 53.50%
120 Chenard 2010.08.23 64-bi 1776.2 1888 48.80%
121 Bremboce 0.6.2           1776.0  404 49.10%
122 Embracer 1.12            1774.8 1815 51.90%
123 Pulsar 2009-9b           1772.3  381 60.20%
124 Macromix 2.01            1765.3  395 52.20%
125 Mint 2.3                 1763.0  400 59.10%
126 Robin 0.983              1758.4 2438 51.60%
127 Lodocase 240208          1756.2  391 46.20%
128 Elf 1.3.0                1747.1 3596 45.10%
129 Vicki 0.041a             1745.7  399 56.50%
130 Rocinante 2.0 64-bit (mc 1742.9  752 48.50%
131 Laurifer 1.0             1740.5 3238 46.70%
132 Kanguruh 1.93            1734.5 2270 54.10%
133 Adamant 1.7              1726.4 3874 45.90%
134 GChess IV 0.2.0          1717.4 1861 59.10%
135 Tscp 1.81                1711.6 2494 47.60%
136 SEE 0.6.9                1711.3 2370 54.10%
137 Aldebaran 0.7.0          1709.7 2403 47.30%
138 Ziggy 0.7                1697.0  289 66.80%
139 RumbleMinze 1.0.33       1693.0  490 40.40%
140 Tristram 3.36            1692.4  398 48.70%
141 Bace 0.45                1692.3 2602 52.60%
142 Golem 0.441              1691.9  115 52.20%
143 Gargamella 0.5.0         1685.6 1178 51.20%
144 Zoidberg 0.1             1682.4  399 47.20%
145 Jester 0.84              1680.3  990 51.10%
146 Mizar 3.0                1679.2 3379 48.10%
147 PolarChess 1.3           1676.4 2236 53.70%
148 JaksaH 1.11 64-bit       1669.3 1853 55.20%
149 Cmcchess 2.5             1666.0  889 65.10%
150 Belzebub 0.67            1662.6 2636 50.40%
151 ALChess 1.5b             1656.3 1979 44.00%
152 DChess 1.0.2             1650.2 2462 50.20%
153 Pooky 2.7                1644.2 1479 51.30%
154 Simon 1.2 64-bit         1641.0 1337 50.40%
155 Vapor 0.01r12            1641.0 1565 55.30%
156 ChessterfieldCL i5a      1635.4  979 40.80%
157 IQ23.003                 1635.0 2158 47.00%
158 ChessRikus 1.466         1629.8 1337 48.50%
159 MSCP 1.44                1625.4 3000 46.90%
160 Rainman 0.7.5            1618.5  848 40.60%
161 Storm 0.6                1617.2 3199 45.30%
162 Rocinante 2.0 64-bit (PB 1613.6  437 30.80%
163 Butterfly 0.5 64-bit     1608.7  533 53.60%
164 Kitteneitor 0.12.1       1593.5  324 50.60%
165 Philemon C               1578.1  119 37.00%
166 Zotron 4.4.6             1576.7 2524 46.60%
167 SdBC 0.41.40             1575.0 1265 43.40%
168 Hokus-Pokus 0.6.3        1569.6  115 36.10%
169 Needle 0.531             1569.0 3099 43.10%
170 Damas 9                  1565.9 1599 50.80%
171 Larsen VB 0.05.0001      1535.8 2141 43.40%
172 SharpChess2 2.6          1535.0 1747 43.70%
173 mACE 0.2.2.616           1532.2 1003 46.90%
174 VanillaChess 2.6g        1518.7  115 30.40%
175 Alibaba 1.38             1514.9  107 29.90%
176 Vajolet 0.4.1            1502.8 1629 44.40%
177 Piranha 0.5              1493.6 2741 38.50%
178 Purple Haze 2.0          1491.7 2435 33.40%
179 Exacto 0.d               1491.1 2232 41.80%
180 Tarrasch Toy Engine 0.90 1479.4 1870 42.30%
181 St Andersen 1.31 64-bit  1475.5 1382 41.00%
182 HoiChess 0.103 64-bit    1472.2   48 86.50%
183 APILChess 1.05r1b        1470.9 1502 42.70%
184 Yawce 0.16               1467.6  140 40.40%
185 Pentagon 1.2             1466.3  724 38.30%
186 Roque 1.1                1462.3 1399 44.40%
187 Blikskottel 0.8          1444.7 1110 43.70%
188 Nero 6.1                 1433.0 1457 38.40%
189 Suff 0.3.a               1432.1  111 21.60%
190 Braincrack alpha         1417.3  109 19.70%
191 MiniMardi 1.3            1392.4 2372 32.00%
192 Tony's Chess 0.02        1390.7 1437 43.50%
193 JChess 1.0               1382.5 1040 37.60%
194 Eden 0.0.13              1377.2 1530 35.20%
195 Goyaz 0.007              1371.4  495 57.70%
196 Numpty Omega             1364.9 1662 32.80%
197 Fimbulwinter 5.00        1335.6  522 48.70%
198 Virutor Chess 1.1        1332.3  849 40.30%
199 Joanna 2002 1.03         1331.5  643 41.10%
200 MiniChessAI 1.19         1329.5  757 57.80%
201 Gedeone 1620             1321.3   50 76.00%
202 Skaki 1.23               1319.0  365 62.20%
203 Nanook 0.17              1315.9 1018 43.90%
204 Supra 12.0               1315.2  240 35.20%
205 uMax 1.6w                1310.4  313 60.70%
206 Ozwald 0.43              1280.2  769 51.80%
207 KillerQueen 2.0b3        1266.2  781 50.80%
208 TRex 1.9                 1260.4  830 49.90%
209 QuTeChess 1.0.1t r3      1245.4  415 60.40%
210 Tikov 0.6.3              1230.4  957 49.90%
211 Gringo 1.4.9b            1201.6  902 48.00%
212 Raffaela 0.1.4           1198.2  955 46.60%
213 Toledo nanoChess v150120 1193.6  967 46.20%
214 DarkFusch 0.9            1191.5  500 51.50%
215 Pierre 1.7               1179.4  667 50.10%
216 GrayMatter SVN1604       1169.6  247 34.40%
217 BlitzKibitz 5            1133.7  273 37.20%
218 Usurpator II             1118.8  490 62.40%
219 JChecs 0.1.0             1107.3  481 57.30%
220 Brama 051204             1100.8  313 47.60%
221 Cassandre 0.24           1086.4  499 54.00%
222 Frank 0.58               1039.0  396 41.00%
223 Blitzter 2.0             1033.8  329 58.20%
224 Hanzo The Razor          1027.0  272 55.00%
225 Talvmenni 0.1            1019.2  305 52.00%
226 Strategic Deep 1.25      1015.3  645 50.00%
227 Xadreco 5.7               984.0  440 43.40%
228 Safrad 2.1.35.210         975.5 1401 37.80%
229 GIUChess 1.0 beta2        953.3  303 49.70%
230 Youk 1.0.5                931.9  291 46.70%
231 Testina 2.2               930.7  414 58.00%
232 Kace 0.82                 928.5  283 45.90%
233 NSVChess v0.14            907.0  362 51.70%
234 Iota 1.0 32-bit           887.9  440 51.80%
235 Chad's Chess 0.15         870.3 1102 33.10%
236 Dika 0.4209               808.5  304 43.60%
237 Dreamer                   789.7  343 64.40%
238 Neurone XVIII             738.1  241 20.50%
239 Hippocampe 0.4.1          731.7  317 58.80%
240 Pyotr 0.6 AM              671.3  464 50.00%
241 Chess4j 0.1               624.0  713 29.70%
242 EasyPeasy 1.0.0.0         523.8  698 27.40%
243 ReBorn Mainsworthy 1.30   498.9  213 56.30%
244 MicroChess 1976           451.4  196 56.40%
245 NEG 0.3d                  402.8  435 37.70%
246 Ram 2.0                   375.2  435 33.20%
247 LaMoSca 0.10              305.4  286 31.10%
248 CPP1                      282.2  255 28.60%
249 ACE 0.1                   144.9  473 14.20%
250 POS 1.20                  110.9  298 18.60%
251 Brutus RND                  0.0  306 10.50%

[Kirk]

Hey guys,

Just trying to compile a list of the engines that play in the most beautiful, positional, aggressive, human-like etc styles.

You guys are the experts...let me know if I've missed any.

• Zappa Mexico Dissident Aggressor
  Komodo Kinghunter
  Deep Fritz 10
  Frenzee (Capablanca-like play in my opinion)
  Hiarcs 8 Bareev
  Deep Junior 7
  Prodeo (numerous great personalities)
  WChess 1.6
  Zarkov
  Wasp (a new fav)
  Toga 3.1.2 Checkov
  Nimzo
  Tao 5.6
  Thinker (a few versions I love)
  ZChess 2.00
  Rybka Winfinder 2.2
  King 3.23 Tribute
  Vitruvius 0.84b
  Ktulu 5.1
  Phalanx
  Critter 0.70
  Rhetoric (material at 50)
  Hiarcs 2007 Paderborn
  Shredder 7.04
  Gandalf 4.32
  Gambit Tiger 2.0
  Rodent II Henny/Remy
  DisasterArea Cognac
  Gambit Fruit Cognac
  Twisted Logic Cognac
  Nejmet
  Maverick 1.0 (nice aggression in several types of position)
  Little Goliath Evolution

Clearly I'm a guy who cares more for style than strength.

There are also a handful of personalities I am working on but still testing.

Have I missed any great current or historial engines in my list (which is in random order I should mention)?

I always enjoyed Gromit/Anaconda

[jmartus]

I would also include gothmog 10b10 in this list as well very aggressive not the strongest of the engines listed maybe around 2300 ELO ccrl doesn't have it listed but that's my estimated guess.

[jmartus]

I would at least put the aggressive setting on not the default active setting with gothmog

[jmartus]

I believe gothmog 1.0b10 is the most aggressive chess engine with aggressive style on.

[yanquis1972]

just had to share this brevity i played out tonight between CS Tal 2 & Zappa DA (wholly inspired by this thread, of course)

[pgn][Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.07.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Zappa Dissident Aggressor"]
[Black "Chess System Tal 2.50"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C44"]
[PlyCount "65"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bb5 Bb4+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. O-O cxb2 7. Bxb2 Nf6
8. e5 Ng8 9. e6 Nf6 10. exf7+ Kf8 11. a3 Be7 12. Re1 d5 13. Nbd2 Qd6 14. Rc1
Be6 15. Bxc6 bxc6 16. Bd4 Nd7 17. Rxc6 Qxc6 18. Bxg7+ Kxg7 19. Nd4 Qc3 20.
Nxe6+ Kf6 21. Nf4 c6 22. Qg4 Nc5 23. Qh4+ Kf5 24. Rxe7 Qc1+ 25. Nf1 Ne4 26.
Qh3+ Kxf4 27. Qh6+ Kf5 28. Qe6+ Kf4 29. Qe5+ Kg4 30. f3+ Kh4 31. g3+ Nxg3 32.
hxg3+ Kh3 33. Qf5# 1-0[/pgn]

i moved manually for zappa, tal only had 10 minutes for the game. CST had its official opening book while zappa had to improvise -- i made the move 3.d4, planning to force a scotch gambit. zappa took over immediately though, & did it its own way. suppose this is nothing much for those used to these engines, but i forget about them until every couple years or so.

some very bad blunders by CST but nevertheless fun stuff.

[Elorejano]

Hi!
Under what gui, are you using CST??
And again, could you post dissident agressor settings?
Thanks in advance

[yanquis1972]

i use CST under its native GUI, i dont know that its possible to use it outside of that.

here are DA settings -- https://www.pinterest.com/pin/343962490272419660/