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jmartus
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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by jmartus » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:35 pm

Rodent 0.8.7 with kinghunter personality and put nps at about 100 will give you around 2000 elo

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by schack » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:38 pm

Thanks. I'll give it a try, but what I'm really looking for is engines that I wouldn't have to weaken. They'd 'naturally' be 1800 or 2000 or 2200 and play a reasonable game of chess. Any thoughts on that kind of engine?

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by carldaman » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:57 pm

schack wrote:Thanks. I'll give it a try, but what I'm really looking for is engines that I wouldn't have to weaken. They'd 'naturally' be 1800 or 2000 or 2200 and play a reasonable game of chess. Any thoughts on that kind of engine?
I've gotten good games from Neurosis, BigLion, Monarch, Cinnamon, Dabbaba, Chenard and SSEChessII. I've heard good things about SMIRF, but never tried it yet. Don't discount Rodent Kinghunter, though, as it will test you to the limit.

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by supersharp77 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:08 am

BrendanJNorman wrote:Hey guys,

Just trying to compile a list of the engines that play in the most beautiful, positional, aggressive, human-like etc styles.

You guys are the experts...let me know if I've missed any. :wink:
  • Zappa Mexico Dissident Aggressor
    Komodo Kinghunter
    Deep Fritz 10
    Frenzee (Capablanca-like play in my opinion)
    Hiarcs 8 Bareev
    Deep Junior 7
    Prodeo (numerous great personalities)
    WChess 1.6
    Zarkov
    Wasp (a new fav)
    Toga 3.1.2 Checkov
    Nimzo
    Tao 5.6
    Thinker (a few versions I love)
    ZChess 2.00
    Rybka Winfinder 2.2
    King 3.23 Tribute
    Vitruvius 0.84b
    Ktulu 5.1
    Phalanx
    Critter 0.70
    Rhetoric (material at 50)
    Hiarcs 2007 Paderborn
    Shredder 7.04
    Gandalf 4.32
    Gambit Tiger 2.0
    Rodent II Henny/Remy
    DisasterArea Cognac
    Gambit Fruit Cognac
    Twisted Logic Cognac
    Nejmet
    Maverick 1.0 (nice aggression in several types of position)
    Little Goliath Evolution
Clearly I'm a guy who cares more for style than strength.

There are also a handful of personalities I am working on but still testing.

Have I missed any great current or historial engines in my list (which is in random order I should mention)? :lol:
Yeah...here you go....... :) :wink:

Fritz 5.32
Junior 5.0
Junior 2010
Deep Junior 11.1
Ruffian 1.0
Aristarch
AnMon
Atak
Ajedrez Tactico
Alaric
Taktix 223
Sunsetter
Doch
Dragon 443
Deep Saros 0.9
Critter 1.6a
Crafty Classic 2004
Comet B46
Deep Shredder 10
Gandalf 4.32
King Of Kings
Lambchop 10.99
KnightX
Movei
Morphy 322
Pupsi 2 009
Quark
Saros Blitz
Sjeng
SmarThink 1.0
Spike 1.0
Stockfish 1.5
Sting 1.0
Strelka 2.0
Szint GM (Tal)
Trace
Warrior 103
Wildcat 2.67
Yace Paderborn
Green Light Chess
Zeus 1.29

BrendanJNorman
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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by BrendanJNorman » Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:06 pm

supersharp77 wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:Hey guys,

Just trying to compile a list of the engines that play in the most beautiful, positional, aggressive, human-like etc styles.

You guys are the experts...let me know if I've missed any. :wink:
  • Zappa Mexico Dissident Aggressor
    Komodo Kinghunter
    Deep Fritz 10
    Frenzee (Capablanca-like play in my opinion)
    Hiarcs 8 Bareev
    Deep Junior 7
    Prodeo (numerous great personalities)
    WChess 1.6
    Zarkov
    Wasp (a new fav)
    Toga 3.1.2 Checkov
    Nimzo
    Tao 5.6
    Thinker (a few versions I love)
    ZChess 2.00
    Rybka Winfinder 2.2
    King 3.23 Tribute
    Vitruvius 0.84b
    Ktulu 5.1
    Phalanx
    Critter 0.70
    Rhetoric (material at 50)
    Hiarcs 2007 Paderborn
    Shredder 7.04
    Gandalf 4.32
    Gambit Tiger 2.0
    Rodent II Henny/Remy
    DisasterArea Cognac
    Gambit Fruit Cognac
    Twisted Logic Cognac
    Nejmet
    Maverick 1.0 (nice aggression in several types of position)
    Little Goliath Evolution
Clearly I'm a guy who cares more for style than strength.

There are also a handful of personalities I am working on but still testing.

Have I missed any great current or historial engines in my list (which is in random order I should mention)? :lol:
Yeah...here you go....... :) :wink:

Fritz 5.32
Junior 5.0
Junior 2010
Deep Junior 11.1
Ruffian 1.0
Aristarch
AnMon
Atak
Ajedrez Tactico
Alaric
Taktix 223
Sunsetter
Doch
Dragon 443
Deep Saros 0.9
Critter 1.6a
Crafty Classic 2004
Comet B46
Deep Shredder 10
Gandalf 4.32
King Of Kings
Lambchop 10.99
KnightX
Movei
Morphy 322
Pupsi 2 009
Quark
Saros Blitz
Sjeng
SmarThink 1.0
Spike 1.0
Stockfish 1.5
Sting 1.0
Strelka 2.0
Szint GM (Tal)
Trace
Warrior 103
Wildcat 2.67
Yace Paderborn
Green Light Chess
Zeus 1.29
Wow! What a list!

Can anybody point me where to get Smarthink 1.0, Saros Blitz and a working Crafty Classic 2004? Thanks for any ideas of where to look/find them. :)

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by Carlos Ylich » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:08 pm

Gambit Tiger, Hiarcs 2007 Hakkapeliitta has fantastic styles :D
Remember Sabra and Chatila

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by Elorejano » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:16 pm

Hi!
Could you post Dissident agresor´s settings?
For to use as winboard engine, of course. So, for to modify Zappa´s ini file.
Thanks

Vinvin
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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by Vinvin » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:50 pm

+ Shredder Kamikaze.

Robert Flesher
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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by Robert Flesher » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:18 pm

Elorejano wrote:Hi!
Could you post Dissident agresor´s settings?
For to use as winboard engine, of course. So, for to modify Zappa´s ini file.
Thanks

http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=227

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Re: Engines with Fantastic Style List

Post by Eraserheads » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:08 pm

Here are some more engines. These I played for a good many years during the height of my computer chess frenzy.


Bright 0.4a in my opinion is the engine that is able to turn ordinary positions into unique, chaotic and messy situations at a relatively frequent rate. Think Morozevich or a prime Speelman.

I've heard some good things about Glass also.

Glaurung 1.2.1 was also known to have played aggressively.

Chess Tiger 14.0, when playing against 2200-2600 rated engines, exhibit the playing style of the young Karpov - positional, tactically surefooted and a knack to go into the endgame.

Shredder 5 (Millenium Chess edition), world champion in 2000 / 2001, exhibits a smart, active style with a knack for sacrificing a single pawn in almost every game for some positional advantage with human-like willingness. I believe this trait was completely misunderstood by early programs, and thus Shredder was able to overwhelm its opponents in its heyday.

Fritz 6 of course exhibits a very pure, early computer-like style which is still interesting to watch nowadays (if it plays vs humans). pure Spider tactics. Very tough to play against, it would wear you down by making you calculate the tactical consequences in every move.

Virtual Chess 2 plays like a steamroller especially in blitz against humans. Its moves are tactical but more simple, and difficult to outplay. Fritz 6 was tactically fancier. Virtual Chess 2 was more direct, brutal and clear.

Junior 6.0 is another steamroller, but with a willingness to move its h-pawn or a-pawn forward in almost every game, and it plays so differently compared to Junior 7. Junior 6 was the more positionally-inclined Fritz 6. I could say its style goes like this: It like to put its opponents in a vice grip and then when it does, rarely do its opponents get away.

Rybka 3 - A level above all these engines I mentioned... think a boxer with a haymaker punch ready at all times. It plays aggressively for its strength, and most of the time it nets the win using a tacticall Hammer at the end. Very interesting to watch.

Now of course with the increase in playing strength of the field, I notice these engines tend to lose their 'playing style'. I think in order for them to exhibit their special character, you have to allow them to play vs similar era / similar strength opponents.


BrendanJNorman wrote:Hey guys,

Just trying to compile a list of the engines that play in the most beautiful, positional, aggressive, human-like etc styles.

You guys are the experts...let me know if I've missed any. :wink:
  • Zappa Mexico Dissident Aggressor
    Komodo Kinghunter
    Deep Fritz 10
    Frenzee (Capablanca-like play in my opinion)
    Hiarcs 8 Bareev
    Deep Junior 7
    Prodeo (numerous great personalities)
    WChess 1.6
    Zarkov
    Wasp (a new fav)
    Toga 3.1.2 Checkov
    Nimzo
    Tao 5.6
    Thinker (a few versions I love)
    ZChess 2.00
    Rybka Winfinder 2.2
    King 3.23 Tribute
    Vitruvius 0.84b
    Ktulu 5.1
    Phalanx
    Critter 0.70
    Rhetoric (material at 50)
    Hiarcs 2007 Paderborn
    Shredder 7.04
    Gandalf 4.32
    Gambit Tiger 2.0
    Rodent II Henny/Remy
    DisasterArea Cognac
    Gambit Fruit Cognac
    Twisted Logic Cognac
    Nejmet
    Maverick 1.0 (nice aggression in several types of position)
    Little Goliath Evolution
Clearly I'm a guy who cares more for style than strength.

There are also a handful of personalities I am working on but still testing.

Have I missed any great current or historial engines in my list (which is in random order I should mention)? :lol:

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