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Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:19 pm
by Paloma
(Privat)-Version Jonny 8.0 in IPON List
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2016.07.06
Jonny 8.00 with an increase of 130 Elo over J7.01! This is a new No. 5 in the IRRRL! With this speed Jonny will pass
everyone next year ;-). Impressive increase, amazing result.
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Jonny 7.01 has 2893 Elo in Ipon List so Jonny 8.00 will be 3023 Elo
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:46 pm
by whereagles
go go jonny go!
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:57 am
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Still a private engine though
Dr.D
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:43 am
by Vinvin
In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR (%) D(%) OppAvg CFS(next) POINTS W D L PLAYED
1 Komodo 10 : 3249 10 80.0% 31.0 2988 100 2640.0 2129 1022 149 3300
2 Stockfish 7 : 3229 10 78.1% 38.4 2990 100 2577.0 1944 1266 90 3300
3 Houdini 4 : 3114 9 65.0% 36.9 2997 100 2146.0 1537 1218 545 3300
4 Gull 3 : 3064 8 58.5% 45.8 3001 100 1931.0 1175 1512 613 3300
5 Jonny 8.00 : 3025 8 53.2% 44.5 3003 84 1756.5 1022 1469 809 3300
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:31 am
by fern
Do not worry, dear doc; I just sent my Serbians to invite the author to a walk....
bang regards
Fern
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:25 am
by Werewolf
Very interesting.
Now we can make some guesses as to how strong the cluster was. Given its 50x core advantage I'm estimating a speedup of 10x-20x (say 10x) over Komodo's hardware.
Which would make them about the same strength...
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:22 pm
by IWB
Vinvin wrote:In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.
You are assuming a linear increase.
4 -> 5 -> 6 ~ 200 Elo
6 -> 7 ~ 100 Elo
7 -> 8 ~ 130 Elo
Jonnys development excels
Yes, that just a joke ... but you never know!
Ingo
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:32 pm
by mjlef
When I asked Johannes how much Jonny gained from a 24 core version on one machine to the full cluster of 2400 cores, he said about 350 elo. I do not know how much data he had (the cluster takes a lot of power), but that is what he said.
So elo gain from 1-24 core plus +350 would be the overall gain.
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:32 pm
by JJJ
mjlef wrote:When I asked Johannes how much Jonny gained from a 24 core version on one machine to the full cluster of 2400 cores, he said about 350 elo. I do not know how much data he had (the cluster takes a lot of power), but that is what he said.
So elo gain from 1-24 core plus +350 would be the overall gain.
And how strong played Komodo in 48 core compare to 24 core ?
What were the FIDE strenght of both engine in this tournament if you have to guess. I m summoning Kai !
Re: Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:31 am
by APassionForCriminalJustic
Vinvin wrote:In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR (%) D(%) OppAvg CFS(next) POINTS W D L PLAYED
1 Komodo 10 : 3249 10 80.0% 31.0 2988 100 2640.0 2129 1022 149 3300
2 Stockfish 7 : 3229 10 78.1% 38.4 2990 100 2577.0 1944 1266 90 3300
3 Houdini 4 : 3114 9 65.0% 36.9 2997 100 2146.0 1537 1218 545 3300
4 Gull 3 : 3064 8 58.5% 45.8 3001 100 1931.0 1175 1512 613 3300
5 Jonny 8.00 : 3025 8 53.2% 44.5 3003 84 1756.5 1022 1469 809 3300
It is not like Komodo and Stockfish development are going to slowdown. Unless someone with serious skill(s) and programming talent comes around it will be hard-pressed to imagine seeing another engine effectively match the two present giants. There are definitely better engines out there to fight for the top five as opposed to Jonny. For instance, Houdart is making a comeback, Fire looks great, Andscacs is up and coming, etc,.
I'm not buying any of this Jonny stuff. Let's see.