What do you think the value of the Queen should be ?

[George]

Without letting your Komodo 9 or Stockfish autoplay this position, by simply looking at it what side do you think has a better chance of winning, and what do you say about the value of the Queen after you find out ?
[D]2bqkbnr/ppp1p1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQk - 0 1 [D]

Stockfish 7 x64:
Stockfish 7 x64

[JJJ]

Without testing with any Engines, I would say black is better. I will check with stockfish now

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

White simply wins.

You can not separate eval factors from one another, there is a big bunch of 15-20 queen-value-related terms that play a role here.

[yurikvelo]

SF-dev, 100+MN per move (at some unstable moves 300...500...2500 MN)
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Date "2016.07.27"]
[White "Stockfish_16072409"]
[Black "Stockfish_16072409"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2bqkbnr/ppp1p1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQk - 0 1"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. e3 Bg4 3. d3 Bxf3 4. gxf3 Qd5 5. Nd2 Nd7 6. Ne4 Qc6 7. c4 g6
8. Be2 Qb6 9. Bd2 Bg7 10. Rb1 O-O 11. O-O Nc5 12. Nc3 g5 13. Rfd1 Qh6 *
[/pgn]
=0.00

On 11. ..Nc5 eval is up to +0.67, but at some D suddenly drops

[George]

White simply wins.

You can not separate eval factors from one another, there is a big bunch of 15-20 queen-value-related terms that play a role here.

Probably you found out by now, but what if I give you this even position with Black side to start the game on autoplay ? But first try to guess which side will win this time ?
[D]2bqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR b KQk - 0 1 [D]

[George]

SF-dev, 100+MN per move (at some unstable moves 300...500...2500 MN)
[pgn]
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Date "2016.07.27"]
[White "Stockfish_16072409"]
[Black "Stockfish_16072409"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2bqkbnr/ppp1p1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQk - 0 1"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. e3 Bg4 3. d3 Bxf3 4. gxf3 Qd5 5. Nd2 Nd7 6. Ne4 Qc6 7. c4 g6
8. Be2 Qb6 9. Bd2 Bg7 10. Rb1 O-O 11. O-O Nc5 12. Nc3 g5 13. Rfd1 Qh6 *
[/pgn]
=0.00

On 11. ..Nc5 eval is up to +0.67, but at some D suddenly drops

White win with the extra pawn, but do NOT play just a few moves let your engine play the entire game at time control of 30 minutes.

[yurikvelo]

White win with the extra pawn, but do NOT play just a few moves let your engine play the entire game at time control of 30 minutes.

can you provide example of winning PGN?

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

White simply wins.

You can not separate eval factors from one another, there is a big bunch of 15-20 queen-value-related terms that play a role here.

Probably you found out by now, but what if I give you this even position with Black side to start the game on autoplay ? But first try to guess which side will win this time ?
[D]2bqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR b KQk - 0 1 [D]

f7 is an important pawn, it also affects black king safety, but, with black on the move, I hesitate between draw and white wins.

In any case, white has an advantage.

[George]

White simply wins.

You can not separate eval factors from one another, there is a big bunch of 15-20 queen-value-related terms that play a role here.

Probably you found out by now, but what if I give you this even position with Black side to start the game on autoplay ? But first try to guess which side will win this time ?
[D]2bqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR b KQk - 0 1 [D]

f7 is an important pawn, it also affects black king safety, but, with black on the move, I hesitate between draw and white wins.

In any case, white has an advantage.

I let Stockfish play it out at 60 minutes per side and it ended in a draw after the 50 moves rule the game ended with 138 moves .

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

White simply wins.

You can not separate eval factors from one another, there is a big bunch of 15-20 queen-value-related terms that play a role here.

Probably you found out by now, but what if I give you this even position with Black side to start the game on autoplay ? But first try to guess which side will win this time ?
[D]2bqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR b KQk - 0 1 [D]

f7 is an important pawn, it also affects black king safety, but, with black on the move, I hesitate between draw and white wins.

In any case, white has an advantage.

I let Stockfish play it out at 60 minutes per side and it ended in a draw after the 50 moves rule the game ended with 138 moves .

who had positive score at the start and later in the game?