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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by cdani » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:43 am

Henk wrote:Other aggressive line in Petroff's defense is Bishop Gambit.
Here perhaps only good move seems to be f6!
If instead of f6 you want a really simple way to play with black, you can answer with Be7, 0-0, c6 and d5. If white goes with Qf3, just Bf6 and if Ng4, just Be7.

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Henk » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:01 pm

cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:Other aggressive line in Petroff's defense is Bishop Gambit.
Here perhaps only good move seems to be f6!
If instead of f6 you want a really simple way to play with black, you can answer with Be7, 0-0, c6 and d5. If white goes with Qf3, just Bf6 and if Ng4, just Be7.
After 5 .. Be7 white may play 6. Ne5: 0-0 7. Qh5

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by cdani » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:23 pm

Henk wrote:
cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:Other aggressive line in Petroff's defense is Bishop Gambit.
Here perhaps only good move seems to be f6!
If instead of f6 you want a really simple way to play with black, you can answer with Be7, 0-0, c6 and d5. If white goes with Qf3, just Bf6 and if Ng4, just Be7.
After 5 .. Be7 white may play 6. Ne5: 0-0 7. Qh5
d5 Ad3 g6 = And white must take the draw.

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Henk » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:30 pm

cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:
cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:Other aggressive line in Petroff's defense is Bishop Gambit.
Here perhaps only good move seems to be f6!
If instead of f6 you want a really simple way to play with black, you can answer with Be7, 0-0, c6 and d5. If white goes with Qf3, just Bf6 and if Ng4, just Be7.
After 5 .. Be7 white may play 6. Ne5: 0-0 7. Qh5
d5 Ad3 g6 = And white must take the draw.
Or 7 .. d5 8. Nf7: Rf7 9. Bd5: Qf8

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Henk » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:41 pm

cdani wrote:I always play Petroff. Against the Cochrane gambit I play g6, but is true that is not easy to win with black. Anyway at long time control nobody plays it, at least at my accustomed level of play.

Against Nimzowitsch attack I go for 0-0-0 with black. You can see some of my games. I think is really difficult to obtain anything with white.
Two years ago I got three times Cochrane gambit in a week and I lost all three games with black while I usually draw in other lines. Might be nowadays it is not so popular anymore.

At that time I remember someone saying Cochrane gambit no one plays it.

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by cdani » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:46 pm

Henk wrote:
cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:
cdani wrote:
Henk wrote:Other aggressive line in Petroff's defense is Bishop Gambit.
Here perhaps only good move seems to be f6!
If instead of f6 you want a really simple way to play with black, you can answer with Be7, 0-0, c6 and d5. If white goes with Qf3, just Bf6 and if Ng4, just Be7.
After 5 .. Be7 white may play 6. Ne5: 0-0 7. Qh5
d5 Ad3 g6 = And white must take the draw.
Or 7 .. d5 8. Nf7: Rf7 9. Bd5: Qf8
But this is a dream to play with black :-) White must exchange queens.

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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:08 pm

[d]rnbq1b1r/ppp2kpp/3p1n2/8/3PP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQ - 0 1

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 1   +1.16   00:00      38  d5 
 2   +0.68   00:00     106  Be6 d5 Bg4 f3 Bd7 Nc3 Be7 
 3   +0.14   00:00     221  Bg4 f3 Be6 Nc3 
 4   +0.67   00:00     315  c6 c3 Be6 Qf3 Kg8 
 5   +0.19   00:00     435  c6 Nc3 Be6 Bd3 Nbd7 
 6   +0.18   00:00     530  c6 Nc3 Be6 Bd3 Nbd7 O-O 
 7   +0.07   00:00    1233  Be6 Bd3 c5 d5 Bg4 f3 Bd7 
 8   +0.07   00:00    1675  c6 Nc3 Kg8 Bd3 Be6 O-O h5 Ne2 
 9   +0.00   00:00    2206  c6 Nc3 Kg8 Qd3 Be6 Be2 c5 d5 Bf7 
10   -0.04   00:00   11741  Kg8 Nc3 c6 Be2 Be6 O-O Nbd7 f4 Qb6 b3 
11   +0.15   00:00   44701  Nc6 Nc3 d5 e5 Bf5 Bd3 Ne4 Nxe4 Bxe4 Bxe4 dxe4 d5 Nxe5 Qh5+ Ng6 
12   +0.13   00:00   88785  Kg8 Bd3 c5 e5 Qe7 Qe2 dxe5 dxe5 Nd5 O-O Be6 Rd1 
13   +0.25   00:00  187967  c5 Nc3 Nc6 Bc4+ d5 Nxd5 Na5 Nxf6+ Nxc4 Nd5 cxd4 O-O Nb6 Nf4 Qc7 Qxd4 Qxc2 Nh5 Be6 Nf4 
14   +0.23   00:00  208417  Be6 Nc3 Kg8 Be2 Nbd7 O-O c5 dxc5 Nxc5 Qd4 Qb6 Rd1 h5 f4 Bf7 Bc4 
15   +0.04   00:01  518206  Be6 Bd3 h5 Nd2 Kg8 O-O c5 d5 Bf7 f4 Nbd7 c4 Bg6 Qe2 Qe7 Re1 
16   +0.07   00:02  710295  Be6 Bd3 h5 Nd2 Kg8 O-O c5 d5 Bf7 c4 Ng4 Nf3 Be7 h3 Ne5 Nxe5 dxe5 
17   +0.52   00:03   1242K  c5 Nc3 Nc6 Bc4+ d5 Nxd5 Na5 b3 Nxc4 bxc4 cxd4 O-O Bd6 Bg5 Re8 Qf3 Bg4 Bxf6 Bxf3 Bxd8 Bxe4 Bc7 
18   +0.35   00:05   2172K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 O-O cxd4 Qxd4 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Rd1 Nb4 Na3 a6 c4 Bc5 cxb5 Re8 Bc4+ Kf8 Bg5 h6 Be3 Bxe3 
19   +0.35   00:07   3203K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 O-O cxd4 Qxd4 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Bxb5 Ba6 a4 Bxb5 axb5 Bc5 Rd1 Re8 Kf1 Nf6 Nc3 Nbd7 Bf4 
20   +0.35   00:08   3491K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 O-O Qxd5 Bf3 Qd7 a4 cxd4 Nd2 bxa4 Nc4 Bxf3 Ne5+ Kg8 Qxf3 Qd5 Rxa4 Qxf3 Nxf3 h5 Bg5 Nc6 Nxd4 Nxd4 Rxd4 
21   +0.46   00:12   5705K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Bd6 O-O Nbd7 Nc3 Re8 Bg5 cxd4 Qxd4 Qb6 Be3 Be5 d6+ Kf8 Qxe5 Nxe5 Bxb6 axb6 Bb3 Bd7 Rfd1 b5 Nd5 Nxd5 Bxd5 Nc6 
22   +0.45   00:21   9769K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Bd6 O-O Re8 Nc3 Nbd7 Bg5 cxd4 Qxd4 Qb6 Be3 Kg8 Rae1 Bc5 Qd2 Qxb2 d6+ Kh8 Bxc5 Rxe1 Rxe1 Nxc5 Re7 
23   +0.48   00:25  11665K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Bd6 O-O Re8 dxc5 Bxc5 Nc3 Bg4 Qd2 Nbd7 h3 Bf5 Qf4 Bxc2 d6+ Kf8 Be3 Bxe3 fxe3 Ne5 Nb5 Bd3 Bxd3 Nxd3 
24   +0.42   00:28  13081K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Bd6 O-O Nbd7 Nc3 Re8 Bg5 cxd4 Qxd4 Qb6 Be3 Qxd4 Bxd4 a6 Rae1 Ne5 Bb3 Bd7 f3 b5 a3 a5 a4 bxa4 Nxa4 Nc4 
25   +0.58   00:45  21118K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Bd6 O-O Nbd7 Nc3 Re8 Bg5 cxd4 Qxd4 Qb6 Be3 Qxd4 Bxd4 a6 Rae1 Ne5 Bb3 Bd7 a4 b5 axb5 Bxb5 f4 Nc4 Re6 Nd2 
26   +0.75   01:30  42725K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 O-O Qxd5 Bf3 Qd7 a4 cxd4 Nd2 b4 Re1 Kg8 Bxb7 Qxb7 Nb3 Qd5 Qxd4 Nbd7 Be3 Qxd4 Nxd4 Kf7 Rad1 Rc8 Bg5 Nc5 Bh4 
27   +0.75   02:21  67386K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 O-O Bxc5 Bxb5 Nc6 Rd1 Rhd8 Bg5 Be7 Bxe7 Ncxe7 Nd2 Nf4 g3 Ne6 c3 Bd5 Be2 Rab8 b3 Ng5 
28   +0.75   02:47  79764K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 O-O Bxc5 Bxb5 Nc6 Rd1 Rhd8 Bg5 Be7 Bxe7 Ncxe7 Nd2 Nf4 g3 Ne6 c3 Bd5 Be2 Rab8 b3 Ng5 Rac1 g6 f4 Nh3+ Kf1 
29   +0.78   03:43 107237K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Bxb5 Bxc5 O-O Nc6 Rd1 Rhe8 Nd2 a6 Bf1 Rad8 Nb3 Bb6 Bg5 Nf6 c3 Kf8 Bh4 h6 Rxd8 Rxd8 Re1 g5 Bg3 Nh5 Bc4 Nxg3 hxg3 Kg7 Be2 Kg8 Bc4+ Kh7 Kf1 
30   +0.60   04:41 135811K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Bxb5 Bxc5 O-O Nc6 Rd1 Rhd8 Bg5 Be7 Bxe7 Ncxe7 Nd2 Nf4 g3 Nh3+ Kf1 Rab8 Bd3 g6 b3 Ng5 h4 Nf3 Nxf3 Bxf3 Re1 Bg4 Kg2 Bf5 Bxf5 Nxf5 Rad1 Nd4 c3 Nc2 
31   +0.71   06:26 186562K  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Bxb5 Nc6 O-O Bxc5 Rd1 Rhe8 Nd2 Rad8 Nf3 h6 a3 Bb6 Bd2 Nf6 Bf4 Kf8 Rxd8 Rxd8 Re1 Nd4 Nxd4 Bxd4 c3 Bb6 Bc4 Bd5 
32   +0.88   12:15 357642K  c5 Nc3 Bg4 f3 cxd4 Qxd4 Nc6 Qa4 Be6 Be3 Qa5 Qxa5 Nxa5 O-O-O Be7 Nb5 Bxa2 b3 Rhc8 Kb2 Rxc2+ Kxc2 Bxb3+ Kd2 Bxd1 Kxd1 a6 Nd4 Rc8 g3 Rc3 Bd2 Ra3 Nc2 Ra4 Bxa5 Rxa5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 Kf8 Bb3 Nxd5 Ke2 Nc3+ Kd2 
33   +0.78   14:33 425242K  c5 Nc3 Bg4 f3 cxd4 Qxd4 Nc6 Qa4 Be6 Be3 Qa5 Qxa5 Nxa5 O-O-O Be7 g4 Rhc8 h4 Nc4 Bd4 Ne5 Be2 h6 Kb1 a6 Be3 b5 g5 Nh5 f4 Ng3 fxe5 Rxc3 Rhf1+ Ke8 bxc3 Nxe2 Kb2 dxe5 
34   +0.81   21:19 619928K  c5 c3 cxd4 cxd4 d5 e5 Ne4 a3 Nc6 Be3 Qa5+ Nd2 Nxd2 b4 Qb6 Qxd2 h5 Be2 a5 b5 Ne7 O-O Nf5 Qd1 Kg8 Bxh5 Qxb5 g4 Rxh5 gxh5 Be6 Rb1 Qa6 h6 gxh6 Qh5 Bg7 Rfc1 Rf8 Rc7 
35   +0.77   25:47 749952K  c5 Nc3 Bg4 Bc4+ d5 Bxd5+ Qxd5 Qxg4 Qxa2 Nxa2 Nxg4 d5 Nf6 Nc3 Nbd7 Bf4 Re8 f3 a6 O-O c4 Rfe1 Bc5+ Be3 Bd6 Ra4 Rc8 g3 Rhe8 Kg2 Be5 Rd1 Rg8 h4 h6 Raa1 g5 hxg5 hxg5 Ra4 Bxc3 bxc3 Ne5 
36   +0.91   34:46   1013M  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 O-O Bxc5 Bxb5 Nc6 Rd1 Rhd8 Bg5 Be7 Bc4 Bxg5 Bxd5+ Kg6 Nc3 Na5 Bxb7 Nxb7 Rxd8 Rxd8 Rd1 Bf6 Rxd8 Nxd8 Nd1 Nc6 c3 Ne5 Kf1 Nd3 Ke2 Nc1+ Kf3 Be5 Ne3 
37   +0.96   47:17   1389M  c5 Bc4+ d5 exd5 b5 Be2 Bb7 dxc5 Bxc5 O-O Qxd5 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Bxb5 Nc6 c3 Ne5 Nd2 a6 Ba4 Nf4 Nb3 Ne2+ Kh1 Nd3 Be3 Bxe3 fxe3+ Ke7 Nd4 Nxd4 exd4 Rhf8 Bc2 Nxb2 Bxh7 Rxf1+ Rxf1 Bd5 Rf5 Kd6 Rg5 Re8 Rg6+ Re6 Rxe6+ Bxe6 Be4 Bxa2 Kg1 Nd1 
Nodes: 1389388992
Nodes/second: 489652
Best move: c5
Ponder move: Bc4+
[d]rnbqk2r/ppp1bppp/3p4/8/8/2P2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq -

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 1   +0.10   00:00      63  Bb5+ Nd7 
 2   +0.04   00:00     122  Bd3 Nd7 
 3   +0.50   00:00     179  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 
 4   +0.25   00:00     254  Bd3 Nc6 O-O O-O 
 5   +0.19   00:00     350  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Re8 
 6   +0.20   00:00     566  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 O-O O-O 
 7   +0.10   00:00     827  Bd3 O-O O-O Nc6 Qe2 Bd7 Qe4 g6 Re1 
 8   +0.07   00:00    1100  Bd3 O-O O-O Bf6 Re1 Nc6 a4 Bd7 
 9   +0.18   00:00    2312  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Bf6 Re1 Re8 Qd2 Nc5 
10   +0.08   00:00    3182  Bd3 O-O O-O Bf6 Re1 Bd7 Nd4 Re8 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Be3 
11   +0.06   00:00    5609  Bd3 O-O O-O Bf6 Re1 Bd7 Bc4 Nc6 Bd5 h6 Qd3 Ne5 
12   +0.15   00:00    9903  Bd3 O-O O-O Bf6 Re1 Nc6 Qe2 Bd7 Qe4 g6 Bh6 Re8 Qf4 
13   +0.17   00:00   12555  Bd3 O-O O-O Bf6 Re1 Bd7 Be4 Nc6 Qd3 h6 Bd2 Be6 Bh7+ Kh8 Bf5 Bxf5 Qxf5 
14   +0.17   00:00   34869  Bd3 c5 O-O Be6 Re1 Nc6 Qe2 a6 c4 O-O c3 Re8 Bd2 g6 Rad1 d5 cxd5 
15   +0.12   00:00   59904  Bd3 c5 O-O Be6 Re1 Nc6 Qd2 O-O Ng5 Bxg5 Qxg5 Qxg5 Bxg5 h6 Bf4 Rad8 c4 Nb4 h3 Nxd3 
16   +0.13   00:00   81444  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 Bf6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Be3 Nc6 h3 h6 Qe2 Be6 a3 a6 Re1 
17   +0.22   00:00  235587  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 Bf6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Bg5 Bxg5 Nxg5 h6 Nf3 Bg4 h3 Bxf3 Qxf3 Nc6 Qf5 g6 Qf4 h5 
18   +0.09   00:01  469702  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Re1 Bd6 Qe2 Bd7 Ne5 Be6 a3 Re8 f4 g6 Bc4 c6 Bxe6 Rxe6 
19   +0.14   00:01  788144  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 O-O O-O Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rae1 Be6 Bc4 Bxc4 Qxc4 Qf6 h3 Qg6 Qe4 Qxe4 
20   +0.12   00:01  875808  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 O-O O-O Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rae1 Be6 Bc4 Bg4 h3 Bh5 g4 Bg6 Ne5 Re8 f4 
21   +0.17   00:02   1366K  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rae1 Qf6 a3 Be6 Qe4 g6 Bc4 Bxc4 Qxc4 c6 Qe4 Rad8 
22   +0.12   00:06   3861K  Bd3 Na6 Be3 O-O O-O Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rfe1 Qf6 Qe3 Bd7 Ng5 Qh6 g3 Rae8 Qd2 g6 Bc4 Rxe1+ Rxe1 Bc6 Ne4 Qxd2 
23   +0.11   00:06   3907K  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 O-O O-O Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rfe1 Bd7 Rad1 Re8 Qd2 Rxe1+ Rxe1 g6 Ng5 Be7 Re5 Bxg5 Rxg5 Qe7 c4 Be6 
24   +0.09   00:09   5170K  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 O-O O-O Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qe2 Bd6 Rfe1 Bd7 Rad1 Re8 Qd2 Qf6 Be4 Rab8 Ng5 Bf5 Bd5 Bg6 Ne4 Bxh2+ Kxh2 Qh4+ Kg1 Bxe4 
25   +0.14   00:13   8022K  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Re8 Re1 h6 Qd2 Bf6 Bd4 Rxe1+ Rxe1 c5 Be3 Nb6 c4 Be6 b3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 c4 Nxe3 Qxe3 Qd6 Rd1 Qc7 Be4 Re8 h3 
26   +0.16   00:15   9011K  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Re8 Re1 Bf6 Qd2 Nf8 h3 Bd7 Rad1 a6 Bd4 Ne6 Be4 Bc6 Qd3 Nf4 Bxh7+ Kh8 Qf5 Bxf3 gxf3 Ne2+ Kh2 Nxd4 cxd4 
27   +0.10   00:26  15290K  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Re8 Re1 h6 Qd2 Bf6 h3 b6 Bd4 Rxe1+ Rxe1 Bb7 Qf4 c5 Be3 Qc7 Bd2 Rd8 Qg3 Ne5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxh6 c4 Bf5 g6 Bg5 
28   +0.11   00:41  24317K  Bd3 O-O O-O Nd7 Be3 Bf6 Re1 Re8 Qd2 Nf8 h3 Bd7 Rad1 h6 a3 a5 Nd4 Ne6 Nxe6 Bxe6 Bd4 c6 Qf4 Bxd4 cxd4 d5 Qe5 a4 Qf4 
29   +0.14   01:14  41609K  Bd3 Nd7 Be3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 Bf6 Qd2 Nf8 h3 Bd7 b3 a5 a4 h6 Rad1 Ne6 Bc4 Nf8 Bd4 Ne6 Bxe6 fxe6 Be5 b6 Bxf6 Qxf6 Nd4 e5 Nb5 Bxb5 
30   +0.15   01:56  63424K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 Qe2 Nd7 Be3 Bf6 Qd2 Re7 Bd4 c5 Rxe7 Bxe7 Be3 Nf6 c4 Be6 Re1 a6 b3 b5 c3 bxc4 Bxc4 d5 Bd3 c4 bxc4 dxc4 
31   +0.11   02:13  71574K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 Nd4 Nd7 Bf4 Nc5 Bf5 Bf6 Qg4 Bxd4 cxd4 Bxf5 Qxf5 Qd7 Qxd7 Nxd7 Bd2 b6 f3 a5 Kf2 f5 b3 Kf7 c4 Rxe1 Rxe1 a4 d5 axb3 
32   +0.07   03:00  94864K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 a3 Nd7 Be3 Bf6 Bc4 Nf8 Qd3 Be6 Rad1 Bxc4 Qxc4 a6 Bd4 Ne6 Qd5 Bxd4 Nxd4 Nxd4 cxd4 c6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Qf3 d5 Qd3 a5 c3 
33   +0.22   06:05 182082K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 h3 Bf6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Qf1 Qd8 Be3 Be6 Qe2 Nc6 a3 Qe7 Re1 d5 Nd4 Re8 Nxc6 bxc6 Bxa7 c5 Qe3 c4 Bc5 Qd7 Be2 Bf5 Qd2 Bg6 Bd4 Bxd4 cxd4 
34   +0.06   08:40 255405K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Be3 Bf6 Qd2 Nc6 h3 Be6 Rfe1 h6 b3 Bd5 Nd4 a6 Nxc6 Bxc6 Bd4 Be5 f4 Bxd4+ cxd4 Qf6 Qf2 a5 a4 b6 c3 Bb7 Bb5 c6 Bd3 c5 Bb5 Rxe1+ Rxe1 
35   +0.09   11:33 336582K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 h3 Bf6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Be3 Nc6 Qd2 Bd7 Re1 Qf8 Be4 Re8 Qd3 Re7 Bd2 Qe8 Bh7+ Kf8 Rxe7 Nxe7 Be4 b6 b3 a5 a4 d5 Bxd5 Nxd5 Qxd5 Bc6 Qd3 Be4 
36   +0.11   12:37 366288K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 h3 Bf6 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Qf1 Be6 Bd2 Nd7 Re1 Nc5 Nd4 Bxd4 cxd4 Nxd3 Qxd3 Qc6 b3 b5 Rc1 Bd5 f3 Re8 c4 bxc4 bxc4 Be6 d5 Qc5+ Be3 Bf5 Bxc5 Bxd3 Bb4 Rb8 Ba5 Rb1 Rxb1 Bxb1 a4 Ba2 Bxc7 Bxc4 Bxd6 Bxd5 
37   +0.14   28:21 805318K  Bd3 O-O O-O Re8 Re1 h6 Qe2 Nd7 Qe4 Nf6 Qh4 Bd7 c4 Ng4 Qg3 Bf6 Bf4 Bxb2 Rxe8+ Qxe8 Rb1 Bf6 Rxb7 g5 Bd2 Rb8 Rb3 Rxb3 axb3 Ne5 Nxe5 Qxe5 Qxe5 Bxe5 g3 Bd4 h4 f6 hxg5 hxg5 Ba5 Bb6 Bb4 f5 Bc3 
Nodes: 805318762
Nodes/second: 473349
Best move: Bd3
Ponder move: O-O
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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Karlo Bala » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:56 pm

Henk wrote:I don't like to take much risk. I switched from Petroff's defence to Modern defense. But there you have Austrian attack which I don't like. So I was thinking about going back to Petroff.

Don't know what is safest/most solid defense for black. In Caro Kan you have Panov variation so that's not much better.
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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by AdminX » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:01 pm

Karlo Bala wrote:
Henk wrote:I don't like to take much risk. I switched from Petroff's defence to Modern defense. But there you have Austrian attack which I don't like. So I was thinking about going back to Petroff.

Don't know what is safest/most solid defense for black. In Caro Kan you have Panov variation so that's not much better.
The Black Lion
Simple, solid, esay to learn. Good for club players.

http://www.chessvibes.com/?q=reviews/re ... black-lion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPZyRvOg5XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j12fhWid3g
I don't think he will like leaving his king in the center, or foregoing castling in most cases. I do love playing that opening as black however. :lol:
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Re: Cochrane Gambit

Post by Janza » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:18 pm

Henk wrote:I don't like to take much risk. I switched from Petroff's defence to Modern defense. But there you have Austrian attack which I don't like. So I was thinking about going back to Petroff.

Don't know what is safest/most solid defense for black. In Caro Kan you have Panov variation so that's not much better.
Pretty much every mainline opening has some some dangerous, aggressive lines. At least Cochrane Gambit is played very rarely ( perhaps playable only at blitz games). I think Modern is a kind of a opening you can get quickly mated in less than 25 moves if you're not careful ( of course white has to be careful too).

I wouldn't suggest Caro- Kann if you want something really solid. While a classical mainline is solid (but can be played in aggressive way), a real thread to Caro is Advanced variation, which is very complicated. As a Caro player, I never feared Panov Attack, which I consider harmless if Black knows his stuff.

Perhaps if you want something that's really solid, but dull, I would recommend Scandinavian with Qd8. It leads to a Caro- Kann structures, in which black is very solid, but you can hardly win. Otherwise (apart from Petroff), some French lines such as Rubinstein or Fort Knox variation are very solid, but white can avoid those by playing the advance French.

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