SF misevaluating pawn endings

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Spliffjiffer
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SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by Spliffjiffer »

2 simple pawn endings SF has problems with...

Engine: asmfish 04.11.2016; CPU: amd a10 7870k (quad core); TB's: None

[D]8/1p4p1/5k2/5p2/8/3K3P/5PP1/8 w - - 0 1
1.f4...only drawing move...after a 15 min search asmfish fails to find this, scoring 1.Kd4 as best with -4.49 at depth 48.
After forcing 1.f4 asmfish fails high with 1...b5, giving a score of over +18 for black at low depths...then quickly resolves to 0.00.



[D]8/6pk/7p/8/8/2npPP1P/1RnK2P1/8 b - - 0 1
1...Nxe3...only drawing move...after a 15 min search asmfish fails to find this, scoring 1...Nd5 as best with -2.47 at depth 43.

After 1....Nxe3 2.Kxc3 Nd1 3.Kb3 [Here asmfish stubbornly tries to avoid the pawn endgame with 3...Ne3?] Nxb2 4.Kxb2 Kg6 5.Kc3 Kf5 6.g3 h5! (only move, which seems to be the one making asmfish misevaluating the whole line) its a draw...with 6.g3 SF fails high, scoring the position +41.34 for white at lower depths until evaluating the position with +0.08 after around 20 sec.

regards
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Jouni
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by Jouni »

No big problem

First:

Analysis by Stockfish 8 64 BMI2:

1. = (0.00): 1.f4 Ke6 2.Kd4 b5 3.g4 fxg4 4.hxg4 b4 5.Kc4 b3 6.Kxb3
2. -+ (-13.19): 1.h4 Ke5 2.Kc4 f4 3.Kc5 Ke4 4.h5 Kd3 5.Kd6 b5 6.Ke7 b4 7.Ke6 b3 8.Kf5 b2 9.Kg4 b1Q 10.h6 gxh6 11.f3 Qc1 12.g3 fxg3
3. -+ (-21.80): 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Kf5 3.Kb5 Ke4 4.Kc4 b5+ 5.Kc3 f3 6.g3 b4+ 7.Kc2 b3+ 8.Kb1 Kd3 9.g4 Ke2 10.g5 Kxf2 11.h4 Kg3 12.h5 f2 13.Kb2 f1Q 14.Ka3 Qc1+ 15.Kb4 b2
4. -+ (-60.95): 1.Kc4 f4 2.Kb5 Kf5 3.Kc5 Ke4 4.Kc4 b5+ 5.Kc3 f3 6.g3 b4+ 7.Kc2 b3+ 8.Kb1 Kd3 9.g4 Ke2 10.h4 Kxf2 11.Ka1 b2+ 12.Ka2 b1Q+ 13.Ka3 Kg3


second:

Analysis by Stockfish 8 64 BMI2:

1. +/= (0.51): 1...Nxe3 2.Kxd3 Kg6 3.Rb3 Ned5 4.Rxc3 Nxc3 5.Kxc3 h5 6.h4 Kf5 7.g3 Ke5 8.Kd2 Kd6 9.Ke3 Ke5 10.Kf2 Kf6 11.Kg1 Ke5 12.Kf1 Kf6 13.Ke1 Ke5 14.Ke2 Ke6 15.Kd3 Kd5 16.f4 Ke6 17.Kd4 Kf5 18.Ke3 Kg4 19.Kf2 Kf5 20.Kf3 g6 21.Ke3
2. +/- (1.30): 1...Nd5 2.e4 Ndb4 3.f4 h5 4.h4 Kg6 5.Rb1 Kf6 6.Kc3 Kf7 7.Rf1 Kf6 8.Rg1 g6 9.g3 Ke7 10.Rb1 Ke6 11.Rf1 Kf6 12.Rh1 Ke6 13.Rh2 Kf6 14.Rf2 Kg7 15.f5 Nc6 16.Kxd3 N2b4+ 17.Ke3 Ne5 18.Kd4 Nec6+ 19.Kc3 Ne5
3. +- (2.57): 1...Na4 2.Rb5 Kg8 3.Rb8+ Kf7 4.Kxd3 Ne1+ 5.Ke2 Nxg2 6.Kf2 Nxe3 7.Kxe3 Nc3 8.Kf4 Ne2+ 9.Kf5 Ng3+ 10.Kg4 Ne2 11.Rb7+ Kg6 12.Rb6+ Kf7 13.Kf5 Nd4+ 14.Ke4 Ne2 15.f4 Ng3+ 16.Ke5 Nh5 17.Rb7+ Kg8 18.Ra7 Nf6 19.Kf5 Nh5 20.Rb7 Kh7 21.Rc7 Nf6 22.Ke6 Ne4 23.Ke5 Nf6 24.Kf5 Nh5 25.Rc6 Ng3+ 26.Ke5 Nh5 27.Rd6
4. +- (5.41): 1...Nd1 2.Kxd1 Nxe3+ 3.Ke1 h5 4.Rd2 Nd5 5.Rxd3 Nf4 6.Rd4 Ne6 7.Ra4 Nc7 8.Kf2 Kh6 9.Ra5 h4 10.Ke3 Kg6 11.Ke4 Kf6 12.Ra4 Ne8 13.Ra6+ Ke7 14.Ke5 Kf7 15.Ra4 Nf6 16.Rxh4 Nd7+ 17.Kd6 Nf8 18.Rg4 Ng6 19.Ra4 Kf6 20.Kd5 Ne7+ 21.Ke4

some seconds analysis
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by MikeB »

Spliffjiffer wrote:2 simple pawn endings SF has problems with...

Engine: asmfish 04.11.2016; CPU: amd a10 7870k (quad core); TB's: None

[D]8/1p4p1/5k2/5p2/8/3K3P/5PP1/8 w - - 0 1
1.f4...only drawing move...after a 15 min search asmfish fails to find this, scoring 1.Kd4 as best with -4.49 at depth 48.
After forcing 1.f4 asmfish fails high with 1...b5, giving a score of over +18 for black at low depths...then quickly resolves to 0.00.



[D]8/6pk/7p/8/8/2npPP1P/1RnK2P1/8 b - - 0 1
1...Nxe3...only drawing move...after a 15 min search asmfish fails to find this, scoring 1...Nd5 as best with -2.47 at depth 43.

After 1....Nxe3 2.Kxc3 Nd1 3.Kb3 [Here asmfish stubbornly tries to avoid the pawn endgame with 3...Ne3?] Nxb2 4.Kxb2 Kg6 5.Kc3 Kf5 6.g3 h5! (only move, which seems to be the one making asmfish misevaluating the whole line) its a draw...with 6.g3 SF fails high, scoring the position +41.34 for white at lower depths until evaluating the position with +0.08 after around 20 sec.

regards
no problems here:
1st position

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2nd position

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<< info depth 32 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -44 lowerbound nodes 114070225 nps 29923983 hashfull 148 tbhits 555610 time 3812 pv c2e3
<< info depth 32 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -43 nodes 156143280 nps 30266191 hashfull 202 tbhits 885164 time 5159 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 d3c3 e3d1 c3c2 d1b2 c2b2 g6g5 g2g3 g5f5 h3h4 h6h5 b2b3 f5f6 b3c2 f6e6 c2d3 e6d5 d3e3 d5e5 e3f2 e5d5 f2f1 d5d6 f1e1 d6e5 e1d1 e5d5 d1e2 d5e6 f3f4 e6f5 e2f3 f5e6 f3e4 g7g6 e4f3 e6f6 f3e2 f6e6
<< info depth 33 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -36 lowerbound nodes 190224101 nps 30504185 hashfull 241 tbhits 1101232 time 6236 pv c2e3
<< info depth 33 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -29 lowerbound nodes 285440900 nps 30838472 hashfull 334 tbhits 1786058 time 9256 pv c2e3
<< info depth 33 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -26 nodes 349081246 nps 30960642 hashfull 398 tbhits 2220478 time 11275 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 d3d4 g6f5 b2b3 h6h5 h3h4 f5e6 b3c3 d5c3 d4c3 e6e5 c3d2 e5d6 d2e2 d6e6 e2f1 e6f5 f1f2 f5f6 f2e1 f6e5 e1d1 e5d5 f3f4 d5e6 d1d2 e6f6 d2e3 f6f5 e3f2 f5f6 f2f3 f6e6 f3e4 e6f6 e4d4 f6e6 d4d3 e6f6 d3e4
<< info depth 34 seldepth 48 multipv 1 score cp -33 upperbound nodes 468038756 nps 31225482 hashfull 519 tbhits 3020581 time 14989 pv c2e3 d2d3
<< info depth 34 seldepth 50 multipv 1 score cp -40 upperbound nodes 538618559 nps 31304112 hashfull 579 tbhits 3558418 time 17206 pv c2e3 d2d3
<< info depth 34 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -33 lowerbound nodes 612302160 nps 31348666 hashfull 631 tbhits 4035047 time 19532 pv c2e3
<< info depth 34 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -42 upperbound nodes 640860466 nps 31387034 hashfull 652 tbhits 4226348 time 20418 pv c2e3 d2d3
<< info depth 34 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -48 nodes 689623497 nps 31446579 hashfull 677 tbhits 4552878 time 21930 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 d1e3 b1b6 g6f7 b6b3 g7g6 b3c3 e3g2 c3c7 f7g8 c7c4 g8f7 c4b4 f5e7 b4b3 h6h5 f3f4 e7f5 b3b7 f7g8 b7b2 g2e3 e5f6 f5g3 f6g6 g8f8 b2b3 e3f5 g6f6 f8e8 b3b8 e8d7
<< info depth 35 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -55 upperbound nodes 844548463 nps 31664234 hashfull 757 tbhits 5673130 time 26672 pv c2e3 d2d3
<< info depth 35 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -48 lowerbound nodes 910078765 nps 31712271 hashfull 786 tbhits 6105236 time 28698 pv c2e3
<< info depth 35 seldepth 53 multipv 1 score cp -37 lowerbound nodes 933549941 nps 31728577 hashfull 795 tbhits 6292994 time 29423 pv c2e3
<< info depth 35 seldepth 56 multipv 1 score cp -29 nodes 1118131285 nps 31847426 hashfull 870 tbhits 7660183 time 35109 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 f3f4 e3c2 f4f5 g6h7 f5f6 h7g6 f6g7 g6g7 h3h4 g7g6 e5f4 d1f2 b3b6 g6g7 b6d6 c2b4 f4f5 f2h1 d6g6 g7f7 g6g5 b4d3 f5e4 d3e1 e4e3 f7f6 e3e2 e1c2 e2f3 c2e1 f3e3
<< info depth 36 seldepth 56 multipv 1 score cp -33 nodes 1197198507 nps 31886179 hashfull 893 tbhits 8266883 time 37546 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b6 g6h7 b6b5 h7g6 b5b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 f3f4 e3c2 f4f5 g6h6 f5f6 h6g6 f6g7 g6g7 h3h4 g7g6 b3b6 g6h7 b6b1 d1f2 e5f4 h7g6 b1b6 g6g7 b6a6 c2b4 a6a5 g7h6 a5f5 b4c2 f5f6 h6h7 f6c6 f2h3 f4e5 c2e3 e5e4
<< info depth 37 seldepth 56 multipv 1 score cp -35 nodes 1299003629 nps 31892259 hashfull 910 tbhits 9147359 time 40731 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 f3f4 e3c2 f4f5 g6h6 f5f6 h6g6 f6g7 g6g7 e5f4 d1f2 b3b7 g7f6 b7b6 f6f7 h3h4 f7g7 b6a6 c2b4 a6d6 b4c2 d6b6 c2e1 b6e6 g7f7 e6h6 e1d3 f4f3 d3e5 f3g2 f2g4 h6h5 g4e3 g2f2 e3g4 f2f1
<< info depth 38 seldepth 56 multipv 1 score cp -28 lowerbound nodes 1370095012 nps 31925039 hashfull 925 tbhits 9644937 time 42916 pv c2e3
<< info depth 38 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -27 nodes 1524849616 nps 31994998 hashfull 945 tbhits 10746738 time 47659 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b6 g6h7 b6b5 h7g6 b5b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 h3h4 e3f1 b3b6 g6f7 b6b7 f7g6 b7b1 f1e3 b1c1 d1f2 c1a1 f2d3 e5e4 d3b4 a1b1 e3d5 e4d4 d5e7 b1b4 e7c6 d4c4 c6b4 c4b4 g6f5 b4c3 f5e5 c3d3 e5d5 d3e2 d5e6 e2d2 e6d6 d2e1 d6e5 e1f2 e5f6 f2g2 f6e5 g2h3 e5f5
<< info depth 39 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -24 nodes 1634121210 nps 31939511 hashfull 957 tbhits 11619246 time 51163 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 h3h4 e3f1 b3b1 f1e3 b1c1 d1f2 c1a1 f2d3 e5e4 d3b4 a1b1 e3d5 e4d4 d5e7 b1b4 e7c6 d4c4 c6b4 c4b4 g6f5 b4c3 f5e5 c3d3 e5d5 d3d2 d5d6 d2e3 d6e5 e3f2 e5d5 f2f1 d5d6 f1e1 d6e5 e1d1 e5d5 d1e2
<< info depth 40 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -23 nodes 1798808379 nps 31920365 hashfull 975 tbhits 13084443 time 56353 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 h3h4 e3f1 b3b1 f1e3 b1c1 d1f2 c1a1 f2d3 e5e4 d3b4 a1b1 e3d5 e4d4 d5e7 b1b4 e7c6 d4c4 c6b4 c4b4 g6f5 b4c3 f5e5 c3c4 e5e6 c4d3 e6d5 f3f4 d5d6 d3e4 d6e6 e4e3 e6f5 e3f2 f5e6 f2f1 e6d6 f1e2 d6e6 e2f2 e6f6 f2f3
<< info depth 41 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -23 nodes 2147031824 nps 31973192 hashfull 989 tbhits 15949275 time 67151 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b7 c3d1 d3d4 d5e3 b7b1 e3f5 d4e5 f5e3 b1b3 h6h5 h3h4 e3f1 b3b1 f1e3 b1c1 d1f2 c1a1 f2d3 e5e4 d3b4 a1b1 e3d5 e4d4 d5e7 b1b4 e7c6 d4c4 c6b4 c4b4 g6f5 b4c3 f5e5 c3c4 e5e6 c4d4 e6d6 d4d3 d6d5 d3e3 d5e5 e3d2 e5d6 d2e1 d6e5 e1f2 e5d5 f2e2 d5e6 e2f1 e6f5 f1f2 f5f6 f2g2
<< info depth 42 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -16 lowerbound nodes 2424553745 nps 31982399 hashfull 994 tbhits 18182716 time 75809 pv c2e3
<< info depth 42 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp -8 lowerbound nodes 3411888825 nps 32054573 hashfull 999 tbhits 25648433 time 106440 pv c2e3
<< info depth 42 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5253038461 nps 32109429 hashfull 999 tbhits 38102743 time 163598 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b8 c3d1 d3e4 d5c3 e4e5 c3e2 b8d8 d1b2 g3g4 e2g1 d8d6 g6f7 d6d7 f7g8 d7d8 g8f7 d8d7
<< info depth 43 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5263494719 nps 32108380 hashfull 999 tbhits 38169825 time 163929 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b3 h6h5 d3d4 g6f5 h3h4 f5e6 b3c3 d5c3 d4c3 e6e5 c3c2 e5e6 c2d2 e6d6 d2e3 d6e5 e3f2 e5f5 f2e1 f5e5 e1e2 e5e6 e2d1 e6d5 d1e1 d5e5
<< info depth 44 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5359489646 nps 32095250 hashfull 999 tbhits 38927902 time 166987 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b3 h6h5 d3d4 g6f5 h3h4 f5e6 b3c3 d5c3 d4c3 e6e5 c3c2 e5e6 c2d2 e6d6 d2e3 d6e5 e3f2 e5f5 f2e1 f5e5 e1e2 e5e6 e2d1 e6d5 d1e1 d5e5
<< info depth 45 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5437536893 nps 32065675 hashfull 999 tbhits 39647334 time 169575 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b3 h6h5 d3d4 g6f5 h3h4 f5e6 b3c3 d5c3 d4c3 e6e5 c3c2 e5e6 c2d2 e6d6 d2e3 d6e5 e3f2 e5f5 f2e1 f5e5 e1e2 e5e6 e2d1 e6d5 d1e1 d5e5
<< info depth 46 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5666766322 nps 32015628 hashfull 999 tbhits 41791660 time 177000 pv c2e3 d2d3 h7g6 g2g3 e3d5 b2b3 h6h5 d3d4 g6f5 h3h4 f5e6 b3c3 d5c3 d4c3 e6e5 c3c2 e5e6 c2d2 e6d6 d2e3 d6e5 e3f2 e5f5 f2e1 f5e5 e1e2 e5e6 e2d1 e6d5 d1e1 d5e5
<< info depth 47 seldepth 65 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 5765121425 nps 31989176 hashfull 999 
bug in asmfish perhaps?

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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by Spliffjiffer »

you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by Eelco de Groot »

Spliffjiffer wrote:you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's

The latest Stockfish development version from today, TDM-GCC compile. I have no TBs installed, and it does not find pos 1. Unless by some luck I think, Rainbow Serpent sometimes finds the f4 draw almost immediately and then holds it, but that is pure chance, in some runs.


8/1p4p1/5k2/5p2/8/3K3P/5PP1/8 w - -

Engine: Stockfish development version, 7threads, i7 6700 BMI2, 20161203 HT,512 MB
by T. Romstad, M. Costalba, J. Kiiski, G. Linscott

30/58 0:00 -0.08 1.f4 b5 2.Kd4 Ke6 3.Kc5 b4 4.Kxb4 Kd5
5.Kb5 g6 6.h4 Ke4 7.Kc6 Kxf4 8.Kd5 Kg3
9.Ke5 Kxg2 10.Kf4 Kh3 11.Kg5 f4
12.h5 gxh5 13.Kxf4 h4 14.Kf3 (15.171.407) 15689

31/68 0:03 -1.83-- 1.f4 Ke6 (51.115.467) 15336


31/68 0:03 -1.83 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Kf5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qe4 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (55.935.564) 15299

32/68 0:04 -1.90-- 1.Kd4 f4 (62.642.908) 15410

32/68 0:04 -1.97-- 1.Kd4 f4 (67.997.047) 15415

32/68 0:04 -2.08-- 1.Kd4 f4 (73.121.616) 15452

32/68 0:05 -2.24-- 1.Kd4 f4 (79.652.742) 15487

32/68 0:05 -2.24 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (84.612.829) 15400

33/69 0:06 -2.31-- 1.Kd4 f4 (95.957.244) 15422

33/70 0:07 -2.38-- 1.Kd4 f4 (115.631.147) 15460

33/70 0:08 -2.49-- 1.Kd4 f4 (124.749.717) 15525

33/78 0:08 -2.54 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (135.660.151) 15566

34/83 0:10 -2.54 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (155.093.173) 15464

35/83 0:12 -2.61-- 1.Kd4 f4 (199.429.689) 15518

35/83 0:12 -2.61 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (201.422.793) 15515

36/83 0:15 -2.68-- 1.Kd4 f4 (238.664.627) 15412

36/83 0:15 -2.68 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (240.212.385) 15415

37/86 0:18 -2.75-- 1.Kd4 f4 (283.314.182) 15453

37/86 0:18 -2.75 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (291.263.127) 15457

38/86 0:21 -2.83-- 1.Kd4 f4 (337.819.377) 15486

38/86 0:25 -2.90-- 1.Kd4 f4 (388.661.624) 15487

38/86 0:25 -2.83++ 1.Kd4 (400.116.591) 15511

38/86 0:27 -2.91-- 1.Kd4 f4 (428.610.070) 15545

38/89 0:31 -3.12-- 1.Kd4 f4 (495.072.941) 15569

38/89 0:38 -3.37 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (603.359.689) 15572

39/89 0:42 -3.44-- 1.Kd4 f4 (655.945.280) 15599

39/89 0:42 -3.52-- 1.Kd4 f4 (658.764.865) 15599

39/89 0:42 -3.62-- 1.Kd4 f4 (661.659.003) 15598

39/89 0:44 -3.65 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Kd4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (701.079.566) 15610

40/89 0:47 -3.58++ 1.Kd4 (743.640.863) 15616

40/89 0:47 -3.65-- 1.Kd4 f4 (745.333.116) 15619

40/89 0:49 -3.76-- 1.Kd4 f4 (767.323.171) 15649

40/89 0:49 -3.91-- 1.Kd4 f4 (769.990.706) 15654

40/89 0:53 -4.02 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (833.477.522) 15722

41/92 1:03 -4.10-- 1.Kd4 f4 (998.522.290) 15648

41/92 1:06 -4.10 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (1.043.500.612) 15667

42/104 1:18 -4.17-- 1.Kd4 f4 (1.230.497.442) 15697

42/104 1:19 -4.17 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (1.248.944.057) 15708

43/104 1:20 -4.17 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (1.262.304.382) 15709

44/104 1:29 -4.17 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (1.406.589.437) 15657

45/104 2:27 -4.24-- 1.Kd4 f4 (2.315.724.250) 15726

45/104 2:28 -4.24 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (2.328.485.048) 15732

46/104 2:32 -4.24 1.Kd4 f4 2.Kc5 Ke5 3.Kb6 Ke4 4.Kxb7 Kd3
5.g4 g5 6.f3 Ke2 7.h4 gxh4 8.g5 h3
9.g6 h2 10.g7 h1Q 11.g8Q Qxf3+
12.Kb8 Qc6 13.Qa2+ Kf3 14.Qb3+ (2.407.290.907) 15754


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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

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Spliffjiffer wrote:you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's
confirm no TBs single PV latest SF likes Kd4, very weird
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

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First position is good example about tablebase benefit. Just checked, that downloading full 5 piece set from sesse.net took 2,5 minutes. You can't afford that :lol: ? SF should forbid use without syzygy!
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

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Spliffjiffer wrote:you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's
no tb's? that helps you in your analysis?
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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

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yanquis1972 wrote:
Spliffjiffer wrote:you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's
confirm no TBs single PV latest SF likes Kd4, very weird
actually I'm not seeing that with multilple threads - single pv, no tb it finds and sticks with f4 , and yes I do see Kd4 in single thread mode

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Re: SF misevaluating pawn endings

Post by Joerg Oster »

MikeB wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:
Spliffjiffer wrote:you both tested with different conditions as i did:

jouni used multipv and used too low time for pos2...SF will change from Nxe3 to Nd5 later on missevaluating the pawn ending

michael used tb's
confirm no TBs single PV latest SF likes Kd4, very weird
actually I'm not seeing that with multilple threads - single pv, no tb it finds and sticks with f4 , and yes I do see Kd4 in single thread mode
That's because using multiple threads as well as MultiPV analysis or TBs, is simply covering the underlying issue. But that doesn't mean it's not there ...
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