I am a chess enthusiast and like to play programs against one another.
Currently I have all the Stockfish engines ( up to 8 ) Deep Hiarcs 13.2
Komodo 10 and Houdini 4.Am I missing out on anything?
Cheers Allan
Best Computer Chess Program
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FCP Rating List
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Date : December 20th, 2016 (23:30)
Games : 41.000
Version : 4.49, final results!
Conditions : http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_conditions.htm
Generated with : Ordo 1.2.6 x64 (Ratings for chess and other games)
https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
by Miguel A. Ballicora (Argentina)
# Player : Elo Games Score% won draw lost Points Draw% Error OppAvg OppE OppD
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1 Stockfish 8 BMI2 x64 C15 : 3222.65 2000 84.5 1393 592 15 1689.0 29.6 15.43 2895.68 11.42 40.0
2 Houdini 5 Pro x64 C1 : 3212.11 2000 83.7 1372 603 25 1673.5 30.1 14.85 2895.95 11.44 40.0
3 Komodo 10.2 x64 C15 : 3205.77 2000 83.2 1365 598 37 1664.0 29.9 14.43 2896.11 11.45 40.0
4 Shredder 13 x64 C15 : 3107.95 2000 74.6 1133 719 148 1492.5 36.0 12.71 2898.55 11.49 40.0
5 Fire 5 POP x64 C15 : 3086.32 2000 72.4 1030 837 133 1448.5 41.9 12.89 2899.09 11.49 40.0
6 GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64 : 3034.48 2000 66.8 876 918 206 1335.0 45.9 11.24 2900.39 11.53 40.0
7 Andscacs 0.89 BMI2 x64 C15 : 3027.49 2000 66.0 903 832 265 1319.0 41.6 11.99 2900.56 11.51 40.0
8 Fizbo 1.8 BMI2 x64 : 2997.55 2000 62.4 787 922 291 1248.0 46.1 11.46 2901.31 11.52 40.0
9 Equinox 3.30 x64 : 2994.04 2000 62.0 760 959 281 1239.5 48.0 11.21 2901.40 11.53 40.0
10 Critter 1.6a x64 : 2981.93 2000 60.5 747 926 327 1210.0 46.3 11.61 2901.70 11.52 40.0
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11 Fritz 15 x64 : 2978.51 2000 60.1 737 929 334 1201.5 46.5 11.13 2901.79 11.53 40.0
12 Booot 6.1 POP x64 : 2968.47 2000 58.8 678 997 325 1176.5 49.9 11.11 2902.04 11.53 40.0
13 Nirvanachess 2.3 POP x64 : 2964.23 2000 58.3 657 1018 325 1166.0 50.9 11.00 2902.14 11.53 40.0
14 Hannibal 1.7 x64 : 2960.05 2000 57.8 683 945 372 1155.5 47.3 11.16 2902.25 11.53 40.0
15 Chiron 3 x64 : 2950.53 2000 56.6 654 955 391 1131.5 47.8 10.87 2902.49 11.54 40.0
16 Protector 1.9.0 x64 : 2938.72 2000 55.1 619 965 416 1101.5 48.3 10.81 2902.78 11.54 40.0
17 Texel 1.06 x64 : 2936.57 2000 54.8 632 928 440 1096.0 46.4 10.94 2902.84 11.54 40.0
18 iCE 3.0 v658 POP x64 : 2924.86 2000 53.3 606 920 474 1066.0 46.0 10.71 2903.13 11.54 40.0
19 SmarThink 1.96 SSE4 x64 : 2890.02 2000 48.8 553 846 601 976.0 42.3 10.80 2904.00 11.54 40.0
20 Naum 4.6 x64 : 2885.00 2000 48.1 485 956 559 963.0 47.8 10.62 2904.13 11.54 40.0
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21 Hakkapeliitta TCEC v2 x64 : 2884.40 2000 48.1 533 857 610 961.5 42.9 11.02 2904.14 11.53 40.0
22 Vajolet2 2.2 POP x64 : 2842.77 2000 42.7 396 916 688 854.0 45.8 11.01 2905.18 11.53 40.0
23 Pedone 1.5 BMI2 x64 : 2842.38 2000 42.6 389 928 683 853.0 46.4 11.41 2905.19 11.52 40.0
24 Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64 : 2831.83 2000 41.3 372 908 720 826.0 45.4 10.37 2905.45 11.55 40.0
25 Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32 : 2829.64 2000 41.0 388 865 747 820.5 43.3 11.48 2905.51 11.52 40.0
26 Cheng 4.39 x64 : 2806.82 2000 38.1 328 870 802 763.0 43.5 11.06 2906.08 11.53 40.0
27 Sjeng c't 2010 w32 : 2803.00 2000 37.7 341 825 834 753.5 41.3 11.38 2906.18 11.53 40.0
28 Arasan 19.1 POP x64 : 2798.56 2000 37.1 318 849 833 742.5 42.5 10.95 2906.29 11.54 40.0
29 Nemorino 1.02 POP x64 : 2797.55 2000 37.0 302 876 822 740.0 43.8 11.22 2906.31 11.53 40.0
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30 Daydreamer 2.0.0 pre2 GNU x64 : 2796.54 2000 36.9 290 895 815 737.5 44.8 10.95 2906.34 11.54 40.0
31 Crafty 25.2 x64 : 2794.31 2000 36.6 321 822 857 732.0 41.1 11.57 2906.39 11.52 40.0
32 Junior 13.3.00 x64 : 2790.24 2000 36.1 321 802 877 722.0 40.1 11.18 2906.49 11.53 40.0
33 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 : 2789.65 2000 36.0 293 855 852 720.5 42.8 11.38 2906.51 11.53 40.0
34 Wasp 1.25 BMI2 x64 : 2787.78 2000 35.8 261 910 829 716.0 45.5 11.35 2906.56 11.53 40.0
35 Quazar 0.4 x64 : 2780.80 2000 35.0 279 840 881 699.0 42.0 11.14 2906.73 11.53 40.0
36 DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64 : 2775.20 2000 34.3 300 771 929 685.5 38.5 11.38 2906.87 11.53 40.0
36 Rodent II 0.9.64 x64 : 2775.20 2000 34.3 285 801 914 685.5 40.0 11.18 2906.87 11.53 40.0
38 Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 : 2770.41 2000 33.7 260 828 912 674.0 41.4 11.03 2906.99 11.53 40.0
39 Bobcat 7.6 x64 : 2768.52 2000 33.5 251 837 912 669.5 41.9 11.68 2907.04 11.52 40.0
40 Spark 1.0 x64 : 2759.43 2000 32.4 259 778 963 648.0 38.9 11.05 2907.26 11.53 40.0
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41 Zappa Mexico II x64 : 2757.73 2000 32.2 226 836 938 644.0 41.8 11.63 2907.31 11.52 40.0
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Move average : 176.77 / 88.385
White advantage : 33.75 +/- 1.31
Draw rate (equal opponents) : 53.71% +/- 0.30
Games : 41.000 (finished)
White Wins : 13.294 (32.4%)
Black Wins : 10.089 (24.6%)
Draws : 17.617 (43.0%)
Unfinished : 0
White Perf. : 53.9%
Black Perf. : 46.1%
ECO A = 7.255 games (17.7%)
ECO B = 10.323 games (25.2%)
ECO C = 8.265 games (20.2%)
ECO D = 8.021 games (19.6%)
ECO E = 7.133 games (17.4%)
cross-table!
TOP-40 on fast Hardware with longer time controls each one vs. each other 50 games. Information to playing styles, all games and so one can be found under:
http://www.amateurschach.de
which engine is stronger in the first, second playing phase or the third the endgame.
Also the links to the engines.
So in my opinion a lot missed!
Easy, all the engines have nice playing styles, are different and the average of the Group of TOP-40 is higher around 75 Elo higher the best human in the World have.
Have fun with all the material you can find in WWW and your engine-engine matches.
Best
Frank
PS: FCP Rating List is quiet boring for myself (to many of such games I saw ... in FCP and the SWCR Rating List Systems) and ended end of the last year ...
Since this time 9 of the TOP-41 engines are updated:
Have a look under:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_engines.htm
Now I am working on a opening book database, can be used for the most of engines and all the GUIs we have. Because such matches should start with equal positions. Have a look in the other messages I wrote today.
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Re: Best Computer Chess Program
Hey mate,rabbits23 wrote:I am a chess enthusiast and like to play programs against one another.
Currently I have all the Stockfish engines ( up to 8 ) Deep Hiarcs 13.2
Komodo 10 and Houdini 4.Am I missing out on anything?
Cheers Allan
Another Sydney-sider here (although I've been in China a while now).
Frank has given some good advice (sort of), but I think it's going to be a little confusing.
If your a chess enthusiast who likes to play programs against each other, this is (strangely) different to a program enthusiast who also likes chess.
That's a lot of what you'll find at TC.
Anyway, point is.
If you want to see the engines play beautiful chess, it might be even more exciting to use weaker engines than those which Frank is suggesting.
Find engines that have the most attractive STYLE and put them in sharp/interesting openings against each other.
This is really much more fun than putting the two strongest engines against each other (IMO), since you see more human-like mistakes and as a result tactical/intelligently strategic punishments.
Sometimes the 3200 ELO+ engines games are so deep, it's tough to even know what's going on...and I'm a player well over 2100+ ELO myself.
Here is a good start for finding which engines are most "fun" in their styles:
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=25494
Other nice engines are AnMon (Frank's old fav if I remember rightly), Phalanx, Romichess (the most human-like in terms of choosing positional moves), ZuriChess, Rodent, Prodeo, etc.
There's some stuff on my site about these "weaker" engines you can check if you have time.
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Re: Best Computer Chess Program
Brendan,
I like AnMon so much.
I have a new chess board (pieces from India) ... Looks very nice ... since a very short time.
After I have it ... directly I Plays games vs. AnMon. With the new board I am 100 Elo stronger ... no, no ... but I think so.
Phalanx is very nice ... my very old favorite.
Generally I like aggressive engines, ETChess is wonderful, also the old Aristarch is very nice. Spark and Hakkapeliitta from the newer programs, from Hakkapeliitta more the preview version ... version: 3.0 (not TCEC version, stronger but the older have a more nice style).
Junior is a very nice engine, often with absolutely genial moves in king attacking.
I remember on older times ... first Winboard times and the first tourneys. Zarkov is playing nice chess and Phalanx. I saw so many great attacking games from Phalanx.
But my old love is AnMon!
MTD, same do the SOS programmer ... Stefan Meyer-Kahlen says often: Rudolf Huber is the programmer with the most knowlege in programming. Rudolf, the SOS programmer helps for UCI protocol with Dieter Bürßner (Yace) too.
Very complicated I think MTD is for programmers.
For AnMon the programmer Christian Barreteau (France ... AnMon = half An -angel- and half Mon -demon-) have to get each year a special medal! My symbolic medal the programmer will get also in the year 2100.
AnMon try to play often moves like: g4 or b4 ... also on king size. For self playing interesting ... to try to find a way for a king attack. Same try AnMon all the time ... OK newer engine are clearly stornger in king attacks but for self playing AnMon is just fantastic.
In older DOS times ...
WChess and Kallisto
Best
Frank
I like AnMon so much.
I have a new chess board (pieces from India) ... Looks very nice ... since a very short time.
After I have it ... directly I Plays games vs. AnMon. With the new board I am 100 Elo stronger ... no, no ... but I think so.
Phalanx is very nice ... my very old favorite.
Generally I like aggressive engines, ETChess is wonderful, also the old Aristarch is very nice. Spark and Hakkapeliitta from the newer programs, from Hakkapeliitta more the preview version ... version: 3.0 (not TCEC version, stronger but the older have a more nice style).
Junior is a very nice engine, often with absolutely genial moves in king attacking.
I remember on older times ... first Winboard times and the first tourneys. Zarkov is playing nice chess and Phalanx. I saw so many great attacking games from Phalanx.
But my old love is AnMon!
MTD, same do the SOS programmer ... Stefan Meyer-Kahlen says often: Rudolf Huber is the programmer with the most knowlege in programming. Rudolf, the SOS programmer helps for UCI protocol with Dieter Bürßner (Yace) too.
Very complicated I think MTD is for programmers.
For AnMon the programmer Christian Barreteau (France ... AnMon = half An -angel- and half Mon -demon-) have to get each year a special medal! My symbolic medal the programmer will get also in the year 2100.
AnMon try to play often moves like: g4 or b4 ... also on king size. For self playing interesting ... to try to find a way for a king attack. Same try AnMon all the time ... OK newer engine are clearly stornger in king attacks but for self playing AnMon is just fantastic.
In older DOS times ...
WChess and Kallisto
Best
Frank
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hahaha fascinating.Frank Quisinsky wrote:Brendan,
I like AnMon so much.
I have a new chess board (pieces from India) ... Looks very nice ... since a very short time.
After I have it ... directly I Plays games vs. AnMon. With the new board I am 100 Elo stronger ... no, no ... but I think so.
Phalanx is very nice ... my very old favorite.
Generally I like aggressive engines, ETChess is wonderful, also the old Aristarch is very nice. Spark and Hakkapeliitta from the newer programs, from Hakkapeliitta more the preview version ... version: 3.0 (not TCEC version, stronger but the older have a more nice style).
Junior is a very nice engine, often with absolutely genial moves in king attacking.
I remember on older times ... first Winboard times and the first tourneys. Zarkov is playing nice chess and Phalanx. I saw so many great attacking games from Phalanx.
But my old love is AnMon!
MTD, same do the SOS programmer ... Stefan Meyer-Kahlen says often: Rudolf Huber is the programmer with the most knowlege in programming. Rudolf, the SOS programmer helps for UCI protocol with Dieter Bürßner (Yace) too.
Very complicated I think MTD is for programmers.
For AnMon the programmer Christian Barreteau (France ... AnMon = half An -angel- and half Mon -demon-) have to get each year a special medal! My symbolic medal the programmer will get also in the year 2100.
AnMon try to play often moves like: g4 or b4 ... also on king size. For self playing interesting ... to try to find a way for a king attack. Same try AnMon all the time ... OK newer engine are clearly stornger in king attacks but for self playing AnMon is just fantastic.
In older DOS times ...
WChess and Kallisto
Best
Frank
I'll have to have a look at ETChess.
Which version of AnMon woild you say has the nicest style?
Recently I've been looking at 5.53, 5.66 and 5.10.
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Re: Best Computer Chess Program
Version: 5.10, 5.12, 5.21 (I am using 5.21).
ETChess is Winboard!!
Absolutely great engine!
Best
Frank
ETChess is Winboard!!
Absolutely great engine!
Best
Frank
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Re: Download for older AnMon vers. in message included
Hi Brandan,
here my collection of AnMon engines.
I have the permisson to added it on webpage by Christian. So I can give it again.
Around 8Mb
http://www.amateurschach.de/download/anmon-versions.zip
Best
Frank
here my collection of AnMon engines.
I have the permisson to added it on webpage by Christian. So I can give it again.
Around 8Mb
http://www.amateurschach.de/download/anmon-versions.zip
Best
Frank
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Re: Download for older AnMon vers. in message included
Wow thanks Frank!Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi Brandan,
here my collection of AnMon engines.
I have the permisson to added it on webpage by Christian. So I can give it again.
Around 8Mb
http://www.amateurschach.de/download/anmon-versions.zip
Best
Frank
It's around 6.30pm here in China, but with this download...I feel I might have lost the rest of my evening.
BTW I played a great game against AnMon 5.53 recently.
I was absolutely crushing it on the black side of a Richter Rauzer Sicilian (in a 3 2 game amazingly!) and at one point +5.
I rejected several perpetual opportunities and went for more and...
lost.
*** it, let me show you.
[pgn][Event "3 2 Blitz"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2017.02.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "AnMon 5.53"]
[Black "Norman, Brendan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B67"]
[WhiteElo "2510"]
[PlyCount "77"]
[EventDate "2017.??.??"]
[EventCountry "CHN"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 Qb6 11. Bxf6 gxf6 12. Nb3 O-O-O 13. Be2 Kb8 14. Kb1 Be7 15. Bh5 Be8 16. Qe1 Rg8 17. Bf3 Rc8 18. Qh4 Na5 19. Nxa5 Qxa5 20. Qxh6 Rxc3 21. Qh7 Rf8 22. bxc3 d5 23. Rd3 Ba3 24. Ka1 Bb5 25. c4 dxc4 26. Rxa3 Qxa3 27.Rb1 Qc3+ 28. Rb2 Qe1+ 29. Rb1 Qc3+ 30. Rb2 a5 31. Qg7 Rd8 32. Qxf7 a4 33. a3 Qxa3+ 34. Kb1 Bc6 35. Qxf6 Rd2 36. Qe5+ Kc8 37. Qxe6+ Kb8 38. Qxc4 Qd6 39. e5 1-0[/pgn]
Not bad for a blitz game, but I probably should have taken the draw.
32...a4? is a silly move, but I couldn't come to grips psychologically that I'd already thrown away the win.
O well, maybe I can beat the older versions!
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Re: Download for older AnMon vers. in message included
China is great ... AnMon too.
But in this case better to visiable China.
On the other Hand ... a chessboard and a hotel room in China can be good too...
Joking!
Will replay the game today on my new board.
Have fun in China!
PS:
I visiting this week London.
Three new chess books from London Chess Centre (Baker Street). Nice what I saw here. I saw not many things from London ... Pizza in the near of Baker Street (Tizzi, Paddington Street) was interesting too. And my new books to scandinavish!
Please give the information not to the others, english people can read that. And on the end of the day I must read ... why you visiting not Buckingham or such things.
I like the English queen but the queen on chessboard is interesting too. And the scandinavian Queen on 2. ... Qxd5 is very interesting.
But in this case better to visiable China.
On the other Hand ... a chessboard and a hotel room in China can be good too...
Joking!
Will replay the game today on my new board.
Have fun in China!
PS:
I visiting this week London.
Three new chess books from London Chess Centre (Baker Street). Nice what I saw here. I saw not many things from London ... Pizza in the near of Baker Street (Tizzi, Paddington Street) was interesting too. And my new books to scandinavish!
Please give the information not to the others, english people can read that. And on the end of the day I must read ... why you visiting not Buckingham or such things.
I like the English queen but the queen on chessboard is interesting too. And the scandinavian Queen on 2. ... Qxd5 is very interesting.
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Re: Download for older AnMon vers. in message included
Frank...you....my friend....are an addict!Frank Quisinsky wrote:China is great ... AnMon too.
But in this case better to visiable China.
On the other Hand ... a chessboard and a hotel room in China can be good too...
Joking!
Will replay the game today on my new board.
Have fun in China!
PS:
I visiting this week London.
Three new chess books from London Chess Centre (Baker Street). Nice what I saw here. I saw not many things from London ... Pizza in the near of Baker Street (Tizzi, Paddington Street) was interesting too. And my new books to scandinavish!
Please give the information not to the others, english people can read that. And on the end of the day I must read ... why you visiting not Buckingham or such things.
I like the English queen but the queen on chessboard is interesting too. And the scandinavian Queen on 2. ... Qxd5 is very interesting.
By the way...a chess board and a hotel room in China CAN be good.
I have a lot of experience.
Enjoy London.