Is This The Future Of Chess?

[Sean Evans]

https://www.chess.com/article/view/is-t ... e-of-chess

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

[Sean Evans]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Chess programs are beating Super-GM's spotting them a pawn or minor piece! Carlsen would have no chance against a bot.

[Leto]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Carlsen would have a hard time drawing against Stockfish 8 even if he starts a knight up.

[Nordlandia]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Carlsen would have a hard time drawing against Stockfish 8 even if he starts a knight up.

Pure knight odds is similar to double exchange odds ->

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[Leto]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Carlsen would have a hard time drawing against Stockfish 8 even if he starts a knight up.

Pure knight odds is similar to double exchange odds ->

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Yes you recently posted a game in which SF9 dev beats Houdini 4 pro despite having this handicap:

Stockfish 160417 64 vs Houdini 4 Pro:
1. c4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 Nf6 4. Bg2 Kf8 5. Kf1 g6 6. e3 Kg7 7. d4 d6 8. d5 Ne5 9. b3 Ned7 10. Bb2 a6 11. a4 Ne5 12. h3 Qb6 13. Qc2 Rhe8 14. g4 h6 15. f4 Ned7 16. Nf3 Kh7 17. g5 hxg5 18. Nxg5 Kg7 19. Ne2 Rg8 20. e4 Qc7 21. Qc1 Qb8 22. Qe3 b5 23. e5 dxe5 24. fxe5 bxa4 25. d6 Qxb3 26. Qxb3 axb3 27. dxe7 Nxe5 28. Bxe5 Rab8 29. Nf4 b2 30. Be4 b1=R 31. Bxb1 Rxb1 32. Kf2 Rc1 33. Nd5 Re8 34. Bxf6 Kg8 35. Bc3 Rxe7 36. Nxe7 Kf8 37. Nd5 Rc2 38. Ke3 Ke8 39. Nf6 Kf8 40. Kd3 Rc1 41. Nfe4 Rd1 42. Kc2 Rg1 43. Bf6 Rg2 44. Kd3 Rg1 45. Nxc5 a5 46. h4 Kg8 47. Nge4 Rd1 Black resigns.

Houdini 4 is easily stronger than Carlsen.

[Dirt]

I think their reason for not wanting to go to Fischer Random Chess is lame. The old games will still be valid even though they will only a small part of the FRC opening theory.

The pros seem quite happy to play FRC. The real opposition to FRC comes from amateurs who rarely draw games. You can't leave your audience behind.

[Ras]

The real opposition to FRC comes from amateurs who rarely draw games.

It's not actually opposition, it's just lack of need because FRC fixes a problem that amateurs don't even have. That's because amateurs don't have the level of knowledge where things become worn-out and boring to GMs. At least, that's my amateur view.

[MikeB]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Chess programs are beating Super-GM's spotting them a pawn or minor piece! Carlsen would have no chance against a bot.

Mark this date down. April 18th , 2017 - I actually agree with Sean Evans at least for a match. One game anything can happen.

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

I would not agree with a lot of statements in the article, especially with the assertion any top program would handily beat Carlsen, no matter what its first move.

Of course, any top engine would have a very difficult time holding after 1.Nh3, or 1.g4 for example, or, when playing black, after 1.e4 f5, etc., not to mention that 1.e4 g5 even loses a pawn.

Chess programs are beating Super-GM's spotting them a pawn or minor piece! Carlsen would have no chance against a bot.

No matter how much, you, bunch of disbelievers, would hate it, under proper conditions(complete quiet), I would win every single match against any top engine out there!