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do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:11 am
by pilgrimdan
[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2017.4.19"]
[Round ""]
[White "Botv16"]
[Black "CM16"]
[TimeControl ""]
[Result "1-0"]

1.Nf3 d6 2.c3 Bd7 3.d4 e6 4.e4 Be7 5.Bd3 d5 6.O-O dxe4 7.Bxe4 Bc6 8.Bxc6+ Nxc6 9.Be3 Nf6 10.h3 Nd5 11.Re1 O-O 12.Qc2 Re8 13.a3 Bf6 14.Nbd2 Nxe3 15.Rxe3 Qd5 16.Rae1 Be7 17.Ne4 b5 18.h4 Qf5 19.Qe2 a6 20.Nfg5 Qg6 21.h5 Qf5

[d] r3r1k1/2p1bppp/p1n1p3/1p3qNP/3PN3/P1P1R3/1P2QPP1/4R1K1 w - - 0 22
22.Nxf7!
22.Rg3
22.Nh3

Qxf7 23.Rf3 Bf6 24.h6 Qe7 25.Nxf6+ gxf6 26.Qe4 f5 27.Qxc6 Qd6 28.Rg3+ Kh8 29.Qxd6 cxd6 30.Rge3 e5 31.dxe5 f4 32.Re4 dxe5 33.Rxe5 Rxe5 34.Rxe5 Rd8 35.f3 Kg8 36.Rg5+ Kf8 37.Rf5+ Ke7 38.Rxf4 Rd6 39.Rh4 Kf7 40.Kf1 Rd1+ 41.Ke2 Rb1 42.Rb4 Kg6 43.f4 Kxh6 44.a4 bxa4 45.g4 Kg7 46.Ke3 Ra1 47.Rb7+ Kg8 48.Ra7 a3 49.bxa3 Rxa3 50.Kd4 h6 51.f5 Ra2 52.Kd5 Rd2+ 53.Ke5 Re2+ 54.Kf6 Rg2 55.Rg7+ Kf8 56.Rc7 Kg8 57.Rc4 Kh7 58.Rd4 a5 59.c4 a4 60.c5 a3 61.Rd7+ Kg8 62.c6 a2 63.Ra7 Rc2 64.Kg6 Rxc6+ 65.f6 Rc8 66.Rxa2 Rd8 67.Ra7 Kf8 68.Rh7 Ke8 69.Rh8+ Kd7 70.Rxd8+ Kxd8 71.Kg7 Kd7 72.f7 Kc6 73.f8=Q Kd5 74.Qf5+ Kd4 75.Kxh6 Kc3 76.g5 Kd4 77.g6 Kc3 78.g7 Kd4 79.g8=Q Kc3 80.Qfg4 Kb2 81.Qd1 Kc3 82.Qgb3# 1-0

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:32 am
by royb
Stockfish does. I tested the development version of Stockfish from 2017-04-08 and it found Nxf7 in just under 1 second at depth 17 using a single core on my system (i7-4980HQ).

1 +1.01 22.g4 (0.03)
2 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 24.Qxe3 exf5 (0.03)
3 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 (0.03)
4 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 (0.04)
5 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 24.Qxe3 (0.04)
6 +1.94 22.g4 Qxg5 23.Nxg5 Bxg5 24.b4 Bxe3 (0.06)
7 +3.64 22.g4 Qxg5 23.Nxg5 Bxg5 24.Re4 h6 25.f3 (0.08)
8 +0.62 22.Nh3 a5 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qc4 25.Qxc4 bxc4 (0.15)
9 +0.62 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qc4 25.Qxc4 bxc4 26.d5 e5 (0.16)
10 +0.77 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qh7 24.Qf3 Bh4 25.Kg2 f5 26.Ng3 fxg4 27.Qxg4 (0.16)
11 +0.58 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Nd2 Rad8 27.Qf3 Qxf3 28.Nxf3 Bd6 (0.19)
12 +0.45 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Rf3 Rad8 27.Nd2 Qd7 28.b4 Qd5 (0.20)
13 +0.59 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Qf3 Rad8 27.Qg3 Bd6 28.Qg2 a5 29.Rh3 a4 30.f4 Be7 (0.23)
14 +0.71 22.g4 Qd5 23.Nh3 Na5 24.h6 Qa2 25.hxg7 Nc4 26.Rf3 Qxb2 27.Qxb2 Nxb2 28.Nhg5 Bxg5 29.Nxg5 (0.29)
15 +0.48 22.g4 Qd5 23.Nh3 h6 24.Nf4 Qd8 25.Nd3 a5 26.Qf3 b4 27.a4 Rb8 28.Qg2 bxc3 29.bxc3 Rf8 30.Rf3 Bh4 (0.43)
16 +0.45 22.Nh3 h6 23.Ng3 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qd7 25.Ne4 Rad8 26.Nd3 Qd5 27.g4 Na5 28.Nf4 Qc6 29.Rh3 Nb3 30.Nd3 a5 (0.55)
17 +1.20 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 Kg8 33.f4 Qd1 34.Re3 Rd8 35.Rc3 Rxd4 36.Rxc7 (0.89)
18 +1.32 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qd1+ 31.Kh2 Qc1 32.d5 Qh6 33.Rc2 Qd6 34.Qxd6 cxd6 35.Kg3 (0.99)
19 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 35.Qe4 b4 36.axb4 axb4 37.Rc2 Rd8 (1.13)
20 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 (1.17)
21 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 35.Qe4 b4 36.axb4 axb4 (1.33)
22 +1.24 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 c6 31.Re2 Qd1+ 32.Kf2 h6 33.Qe4 Rd8 34.Rc2 Rxd4 35.Qxc6 Rd2+ 36.Rxd2 Qxd2+ 37.Kg3 Qe2 38.Qxa6 Qxb2 39.Qc8+ Kh7 (1.60)
23 +1.29 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 Qd1 33.Kg3 c6 34.Kh2 Qc1 35.Qe4 Qf4+ 36.Qxf4 Rxf4 37.Re6 (1.88)
24 +1.29 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 c6 33.Qe7 Kg8 34.Qe4 Rd8 35.Rc2 Qd1 36.Rxc6 a5 37.Kg3 Qxd4 38.Qe2 Qd3 39.Qe5 Kh7 (2.27)
25 +1.26 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 c6 33.Qe7 Kg8 34.Qe4 Rd8 35.Rc2 Qd1 36.Rxc6 Qd2+ 37.Kg3 Qg5+ 38.Qg4 Qxg4+ 39.Kxg4 Rxd4+ 40.Kh3 Rd3 41.Rxa6 Rb3 42.Ra8+ Kh7 43.Kg3 Rxb2 44.Re8 (2.83)
26 +1.25 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 h6 25.Rxf8+ Rxf8 26.Nf3 Qxh5 27.Nc5 Bxc5 28.Qxe6+ Kh7 29.Qxc6 Bd6 30.Ne5 Qf5 31.f3 Qc2 32.Qe4+ Qxe4 33.Rxe4 h5 34.Kf2 Kh6 35.Ke2 Kg5 36.Kd3 Kf5 37.Nc6 g5 38.Nb4 Ra8 39.Nd5 Bg3 40.c4 bxc4+ 41.Kxc4 (4.97)
27 +1.32 22.Nxf7 (8.50)
27 +1.39 22.Nxf7 (9.37)
27 +1.32 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (10.24)
27 +1.37 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 e5 25.h6 Bxg5 26.Nxg5 Rxf3 27.Nxf3 exd4 28.Qd2 Rd8 29.hxg7 Kxg7 30.Ng5 Rd6 31.Qf4 h6 32.Ne4 Rg6 33.cxd4 Qf7 34.Qe3 Qe6 35.Nc5 Qxe3 36.fxe3 Ne7 37.e4 Kf7 38.Rf1+ Kg7 (10.56)
28 +1.45 22.Nxf7 (12.23)
28 +1.52 22.Nxf7 (13.69)
28 +1.45 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (15.77)
28 +1.54 22.Nxf7 (16.98)
28 +1.41 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (18.43)
28 +1.53 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Qe5 Qh6 29.Rxf8+ Rxf8 30.f3 c6 31.Kf2 Kg8 32.b4 Qf4 33.Re4 Qxe5 34.dxe5 Kf7 35.Rf4+ Ke7 36.Rxf8 Kxf8 37.f4 g6 38.hxg6 hxg6 39.g4 Kf7 40.f5 (19.42)
29 +1.60 22.Nxf7 (21.98)
29 +1.60 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 e5 25.h6 Bxg5 26.Nxg5 Rxf3 27.Nxf3 exd4 28.Qd3 gxh6 29.cxd4 Rf8 30.Re4 Qf5 31.Qe3 Rf6 32.Re8+ Kg7 33.Ra8 Re6 34.Qc1 Rg6 35.Qc3 Rf6 36.Rxa6 Qd5 37.Qe3 h5 38.Qe8 Rg6 39.Ra8 Qxf3 40.Qxg6+ Kxg6 (24.32)
30 +1.53 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (28.87)
30 +1.46 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (29.57)
30 +1.35 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (30.61)

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Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:58 am
by pilgrimdan
royb wrote:Stockfish does. I tested the development version of Stockfish from 2017-04-08 and it found Nxf7 in just under 1 second at depth 17 using a single core on my system (i7-4980HQ).

1 +1.01 22.g4 (0.03)
2 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 24.Qxe3 exf5 (0.03)
3 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 (0.03)
4 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 (0.04)
5 +3.92 22.g4 Bxg5 23.gxf5 Bxe3 24.Qxe3 (0.04)
6 +1.94 22.g4 Qxg5 23.Nxg5 Bxg5 24.b4 Bxe3 (0.06)
7 +3.64 22.g4 Qxg5 23.Nxg5 Bxg5 24.Re4 h6 25.f3 (0.08)
8 +0.62 22.Nh3 a5 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qc4 25.Qxc4 bxc4 (0.15)
9 +0.62 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qc4 25.Qxc4 bxc4 26.d5 e5 (0.16)
10 +0.77 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qh7 24.Qf3 Bh4 25.Kg2 f5 26.Ng3 fxg4 27.Qxg4 (0.16)
11 +0.58 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Nd2 Rad8 27.Qf3 Qxf3 28.Nxf3 Bd6 (0.19)
12 +0.45 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Rf3 Rad8 27.Nd2 Qd7 28.b4 Qd5 (0.20)
13 +0.59 22.Nh3 h6 23.g4 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qa2 25.Nd3 Qd5 26.Qf3 Rad8 27.Qg3 Bd6 28.Qg2 a5 29.Rh3 a4 30.f4 Be7 (0.23)
14 +0.71 22.g4 Qd5 23.Nh3 Na5 24.h6 Qa2 25.hxg7 Nc4 26.Rf3 Qxb2 27.Qxb2 Nxb2 28.Nhg5 Bxg5 29.Nxg5 (0.29)
15 +0.48 22.g4 Qd5 23.Nh3 h6 24.Nf4 Qd8 25.Nd3 a5 26.Qf3 b4 27.a4 Rb8 28.Qg2 bxc3 29.bxc3 Rf8 30.Rf3 Bh4 (0.43)
16 +0.45 22.Nh3 h6 23.Ng3 Qd5 24.Nf4 Qd7 25.Ne4 Rad8 26.Nd3 Qd5 27.g4 Na5 28.Nf4 Qc6 29.Rh3 Nb3 30.Nd3 a5 (0.55)
17 +1.20 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 Kg8 33.f4 Qd1 34.Re3 Rd8 35.Rc3 Rxd4 36.Rxc7 (0.89)
18 +1.32 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qd1+ 31.Kh2 Qc1 32.d5 Qh6 33.Rc2 Qd6 34.Qxd6 cxd6 35.Kg3 (0.99)
19 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 35.Qe4 b4 36.axb4 axb4 37.Rc2 Rd8 (1.13)
20 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 (1.17)
21 +1.22 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.Re2 Qc1+ 31.Kh2 h6 32.Kg3 c6 33.f3 a5 34.Kf2 Qd1 35.Qe4 b4 36.axb4 axb4 (1.33)
22 +1.24 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 c6 31.Re2 Qd1+ 32.Kf2 h6 33.Qe4 Rd8 34.Rc2 Rxd4 35.Qxc6 Rd2+ 36.Rxd2 Qxd2+ 37.Kg3 Qe2 38.Qxa6 Qxb2 39.Qc8+ Kh7 (1.60)
23 +1.29 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 Qd1 33.Kg3 c6 34.Kh2 Qc1 35.Qe4 Qf4+ 36.Qxf4 Rxf4 37.Re6 (1.88)
24 +1.29 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 c6 33.Qe7 Kg8 34.Qe4 Rd8 35.Rc2 Qd1 36.Rxc6 a5 37.Kg3 Qxd4 38.Qe2 Qd3 39.Qe5 Kh7 (2.27)
25 +1.26 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Rxf8+ Rxf8 28.Qxe6+ Kh8 29.Qe5 Qd2 30.f3 h6 31.Re2 Qc1+ 32.Kf2 c6 33.Qe7 Kg8 34.Qe4 Rd8 35.Rc2 Qd1 36.Rxc6 Qd2+ 37.Kg3 Qg5+ 38.Qg4 Qxg4+ 39.Kxg4 Rxd4+ 40.Kh3 Rd3 41.Rxa6 Rb3 42.Ra8+ Kh7 43.Kg3 Rxb2 44.Re8 (2.83)
26 +1.25 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Nfg5 h6 25.Rxf8+ Rxf8 26.Nf3 Qxh5 27.Nc5 Bxc5 28.Qxe6+ Kh7 29.Qxc6 Bd6 30.Ne5 Qf5 31.f3 Qc2 32.Qe4+ Qxe4 33.Rxe4 h5 34.Kf2 Kh6 35.Ke2 Kg5 36.Kd3 Kf5 37.Nc6 g5 38.Nb4 Ra8 39.Nd5 Bg3 40.c4 bxc4+ 41.Kxc4 (4.97)
27 +1.32 22.Nxf7 (8.50)
27 +1.39 22.Nxf7 (9.37)
27 +1.32 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (10.24)
27 +1.37 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 e5 25.h6 Bxg5 26.Nxg5 Rxf3 27.Nxf3 exd4 28.Qd2 Rd8 29.hxg7 Kxg7 30.Ng5 Rd6 31.Qf4 h6 32.Ne4 Rg6 33.cxd4 Qf7 34.Qe3 Qe6 35.Nc5 Qxe3 36.fxe3 Ne7 37.e4 Kf7 38.Rf1+ Kg7 (10.56)
28 +1.45 22.Nxf7 (12.23)
28 +1.52 22.Nxf7 (13.69)
28 +1.45 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (15.77)
28 +1.54 22.Nxf7 (16.98)
28 +1.41 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (18.43)
28 +1.53 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 Bxg5 25.Nxg5 Nxd4 26.cxd4 Qxg5 27.Qxe6+ Kh8 28.Qe5 Qh6 29.Rxf8+ Rxf8 30.f3 c6 31.Kf2 Kg8 32.b4 Qf4 33.Re4 Qxe5 34.dxe5 Kf7 35.Rf4+ Ke7 36.Rxf8 Kxf8 37.f4 g6 38.hxg6 hxg6 39.g4 Kf7 40.f5 (19.42)
29 +1.60 22.Nxf7 (21.98)
29 +1.60 22.Nxf7 Rf8 23.Rf3 Qd5 24.Neg5 e5 25.h6 Bxg5 26.Nxg5 Rxf3 27.Nxf3 exd4 28.Qd3 gxh6 29.cxd4 Rf8 30.Re4 Qf5 31.Qe3 Rf6 32.Re8+ Kg7 33.Ra8 Re6 34.Qc1 Rg6 35.Qc3 Rf6 36.Rxa6 Qd5 37.Qe3 h5 38.Qe8 Rg6 39.Ra8 Qxf3 40.Qxg6+ Kxg6 (24.32)
30 +1.53 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (28.87)
30 +1.46 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (29.57)
30 +1.35 22.Nxf7 Rf8 (30.61)

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here's the output for CM_9... Botvinnik personality...
3:57 5/14 0.44 22.Rf3
16:55 5/14 0.73 22.Nh3
25:50 5/14 1.33 22.Nxf7

thanks for the sf output...

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:01 am
by flok

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info depth 1 seldepth 7 score cp 20 time 1 nodes 110 pv e3f3
info depth 2 seldepth 7 score cp 20 time 1 nodes 435 pv e3f3 f5d5
info depth 3 seldepth 7 score cp 22 ebf 2.67 time 3 nodes 1221 pv e3f3 f5d5 g5f7 d5h5
info depth 4 seldepth 11 score cp 22 ebf 2.40 time 7 nodes 3088 pv e3f3 f5d5 g5f7 d5h5
info depth 5 seldepth 15 score cp 23 ebf 2.55 time 17 nodes 8194 pv e3f3 f5d5 g5f7 d5h5 e2c2
info depth 6 seldepth 16 score cp 16 ebf 2.93 time 48 nodes 24274 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2
info depth 7 seldepth 16 score cp 16 ebf 2.09 time 90 nodes 46618 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2
info depth 8 seldepth 21 score cp 93 ebf 3.03 time 460 nodes 194338 pv g5h3
info depth 8 seldepth 19 score cp 93 ebf 0.67 time 493 nodes 204508 pv g5h3
info depth 9 seldepth 20 score cp 18 ebf 0.80 time 779 nodes 300177 pv g5h3
info depth 9 seldepth 24 score cp 6 ebf 5.81 time 1749 nodes 643162 pv e3g3 f5d5 e2f3 f7f6 g5h3 f6f5 e4d2 a8d8 h3f4
info depth 10 seldepth 23 score cp 6 ebf 1.50 time 2131 nodes 858798 pv e3g3 f5d5 e2f3 f7f6 g5h3 f6f5 e4d2 a8d8 h3f4 d5d6
info depth 11 seldepth 28 score cp 5 ebf 1.67 time 3829 nodes 1818841 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5c4 e2f3 e7d6 g3e4 d6f4 f3f4
info depth 12 seldepth 27 score cp 6 ebf 1.89 time 5138 nodes 2590651 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5b3 g3e4 e7d6 f4d3 b3c4 e2f3 h7h6
info depth 13 seldepth 27 score cp 6 ebf 1.05 time 6876 nodes 3657959 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5b3 g3e4 e7d6 f4d3 b3c4 e2f3 h7h6 e1d1
info depth 14 seldepth 28 score cp 6 ebf 1.38 time 9217 nodes 5121375 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5b3 g3e4 e7d6 f4d3 b3c4 e2f3 c4d5 e1d1 h7h6
info depth 15 seldepth 31 score cp 5 ebf 1.67 time 13910 nodes 8087554 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5b3 g3e4 e7d6 f4d3 b3c4 e2f3 c4d5 e1d1 f7f5 e4d2
info depth 16 seldepth 31 score cp 5 ebf 2.04 time 23600 nodes 14166355 pv g5h3 e8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5b3 g3e4 e7d6 f4d3 h7h6 e4d6 d8d6 d3c5 b3c4 e2f3 c4d5
info depth 17 seldepth 35 score cp 5 ebf 1.81 time 38705 nodes 23844419 pv g5h3 a8d8 e4g3 f5d5 h3f4 d5c4 e2f3 e7d6 g3e4 d6f4 f3f4 c6e7 e4f6 g7f6 e3g3 e7g6 h5g6 h7g6 f4f6
info depth 18 seldepth 34 score cp 10 ebf 1.80 time 69913 nodes 43631387 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 d4d5 c6a5 e2e7 h7h6 g5f7 d8d5 f7e5 a5b3 e7e8 g8h7 e8e7
info depth 19 seldepth 36 score cp 7 ebf 1.43 time 100056 nodes 63381129 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 d4d5 c6a5 e2e7 h7h6 g5f7 d8d5 f7e5 a5b3 c3c4 d5d1 g1h2 b5c4 e7c7
info depth 20 seldepth 37 score cp 7 ebf 1.12 time 137713 nodes 88407990 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 d4d5 c6a5 e2e7 h7h6 g5f7 d8d5 f7e5 a5b3 c3c4 d5d1 g1h2 b5c4 e7c7
info depth 21 seldepth 38 score cp 8 ebf 1.65 time 217990 nodes 141940824 pv e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 d4d5 c6a5 e2e7 h7h6 g5f7 d8d5 f7e5 a5b3 c3c4 d5d1 g1h2 b5c4 e5c4 c7c5

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:28 am
by Maarten Claessens
WaDuuttie does (but I don't consider him to be a modern engine :) ):

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FEN: r3r1k1/2p1bppp/p1n1p3/1p3qNP/3PN3/P1P1R3/1P2QPP1/4R1K1 w - - 0 22 

WaDuuttie:
  13	00:00	     486,152	1,130,586	+0.58	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 g5f3 g8f8 g1f1 f7f6 e2e6 d8d6 e6e2
  14	00:01	   1,389,638	1,029,361	+0.54	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 g1f1 a6a5 g5f3 a5a4 h5h6 g7g6 f3e5 c6e5
  15	00:01	   1,645,174	1,034,700	+0.70	e3f3!
  15	00:02	   2,208,656	1,082,674	+0.82	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 a8d8 d4d5 f7f6 d5c6 f6g5 e2e7 d8c8 e7d7 g5g4 g1f1 f5f4
  16	00:03	   3,414,084	1,094,257	+0.70	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5f3 a8d8 f3h4 f5f4 h4f3 g8f8 e2e4 d8d5 e4f4 d5h5 g2g4
  17	00:06	   7,203,614	1,029,087	+0.66	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5f3 a8d8 f3h4 f5f4 e2e4 c6a5 e4f4 a5c4 b2b3 c4a3 f4e4
  18	00:09	   9,871,930	1,086,020	+0.78	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5h3 g8f8 h3f4 a8d8 g1f1 d8d6 f4d3 a6a5 d3c5 a5a4 f2f3 f8g8
  19	00:12	  14,372,948	1,129,948	+0.82	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5h3 g8f8 h3f4 a8d8 g1f1 d8d6 f4d3 a6a5 d3c5 a5a4 f2f3 g7g6 h5g6
  20	00:18	  21,124,510	1,144,959	+0.72	e3f3 e7g5 f3f5 e6f5 e4g5 e8e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5h3 g8f8 h3f4 a8e8 g1f1 e8e2 f1e2 f8e7 f4d3 e7d6 d3c5 a6a5 e2e3 a5a4 f2f3
  21	00:36	  42,244,119	1,152,950	+1.12	g5f7!
  21	01:16	  85,337,737	1,109,290	+1.64	g5f7 e8f8 e3f3 f5d5 e4g5 e7g5 f7g5 c6d4 c3d4 d5g5 f3f8 a8f8 e2e6 g8h8 e6f7 g5d8 f7e7 h7h6 b2b4 d8e7 e1e7 f8d8 e7c7 d8d4 g1f1 d4d3 f1e2
  22	01:31	 102,501,185	1,120,353	+1.64	g5f7 e8f8 e3f3 f5d5 e4g5 e7g5 f7g5 c6d4 c3d4 d5g5 f3f8 a8f8 e2e6 g8h8 e6f7 g5d8 f7e7 h7h6 b2b4 d8e7 e1e7 f8d8 e7c7 d8d4 g1f1 d4d3 f1e2 d3a3
  23	01:55	 131,058,377	1,138,153	+1.68	g5f7 e8f8 e3f3 f5d5 e4g5 e7g5 f7g5 c6d4 c3d4 d5g5 f3f8 a8f8 e2e6 g8h8 e6f7 g5d8 f7e7 h7h6 b2b4 h8g8 e7e6 g8h8 e6g4 d8f6 f2f3 h8g8 e1e6 f6f5
  24	02:24	 165,970,583	1,150,496	+1.68	g5f7 e8f8 e3f3 f5d5 e4g5 e7g5 f7g5 c6d4 c3d4 d5g5 f3f8 a8f8 e2e6 g8h8 e6f7 g5d8 f7e7 h7h6 b2b4 h8g8 e7e6 g8h8 e6g4 d8f6 f2f3 f8d8 e1e4 f6d6 g1f2


Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by AdminX
Komodo 10 sees it also. Interesting shot that I would have missed as human for sure. :lol:

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Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:04 am
by pilgrimdan
AdminX wrote:Komodo 10 sees it also. Interesting shot that I would have missed as human for sure. :lol:

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thanks for all the responses ... appreciate it ...

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:08 pm
by Martin Hertz
I've tested some DOS programs with your position. All programs running with maximum hash under real DOS at 3.3 GHz ,what is around 200 times faster than a 486 at 33 MHz:

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Socrates 3.0      11  00:01:27

M-Chess Pro 5.0   11  00:03:21

M-Chess Pro 6.0   12  00:04:02

WChess 1.05       14  00:06:43

Chess System Tal  13  00:09:50
These programs didn't find the move within 1.5 hours at depth:

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Fritz 3.05        17

Gideon Pro 1.0    14

Chess Genius 3.0  12

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:44 pm
by cdani
Andscacs 0.90 after 8 seconds:

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info depth 22 currmove g5f7 currmovenumber 14
info depth 22 seldepth 35 score cp 95 lowerbound nodes 7822002 nps 949502 tbhits 0 time 8238 pv g5f7
And my current dev, with threat evaluation rewritten and retuned, 4 seconds:

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Andscacs 0.90087
info depth 21 currmove g5f7 currmovenumber 37
info depth 21 seldepth 35 score cp 104 lowerbound nodes 3796740 nps 934927 tbhits 0 time 4061 pv g5f7

Re: do modern programs play 22.Nxf7 in this position...

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:39 pm
by pilgrimdan
Martin Hertz wrote:I've tested some DOS programs with your position. All programs running with maximum hash under real DOS at 3.3 GHz ,what is around 200 times faster than a 486 at 33 MHz:

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Socrates 3.0      11  00:01:27

M-Chess Pro 5.0   11  00:03:21

M-Chess Pro 6.0   12  00:04:02

WChess 1.05       14  00:06:43

Chess System Tal  13  00:09:50
These programs didn't find the move within 1.5 hours at depth:

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Fritz 3.05        17

Gideon Pro 1.0    14

Chess Genius 3.0  12
here's the output for CM_9... Botvinnik personality...
on a dell d830 laptop...
25 minutes to find Nxf7...

3:57 5/14 0.44 22.Rf3
16:55 5/14 0.73 22.Nh3
25:50 5/14 1.33 22.Nxf7