What happend to TCEC?

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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:17 pm

Kotlov wrote:CCRL, more than enough.

Graham Banks, thank you for your effort!
CCRL and CEGT do in fact tell us which engine is strongest.

But the ultimate chess on the ultimate hardware is another question.
If you want to see breathtaking moves that require absurd depths and nodecounts, then your choices are TCEC and correspondence chess.
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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:08 pm

+1
I like computer chess!

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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by leavenfish » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:48 pm

-1

"Correspondence Chess"...using that venerable old form of chess along with chess engine competition is sad.

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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:08 am

leavenfish wrote:-1

"Correspondence Chess"...using that venerable old form of chess along with chess engine competition is sad.
It is within the rules of most correspondence chess organizations.
You will find that the champions do not simply play engine moves by rote.
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Re: What happened to TCEC?

Post by Nelson Hernandez » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:41 pm

AKA Cato the Younger here.

I dropped Anton an email a couple of months ago inquiring about his plans. He promptly responded and assured me that he intended for there to be a TCEC Season 10. However he was unspecific concerning timing. Apparently TCEC's sources of funding are insufficient to cover the capital and labor expenses the tournament generates and this poses a challenge.

The lack of official communication is, obviously, not encouraging and does not help the brand. I refer you to Martin Thoresen's cri de cœur. I share many of his laments. But of course if the season happens I will serve in my customary role.

My biggest problem right now is that I forgot my ChatWing password to my TCEC VIP nick. Yikes.

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Re: What happened to TCEC?

Post by Paloma » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:36 pm

Thanks for the insight, Nelson

Hope now we will see a season 10

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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by Henk » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:49 pm

No money no TCEC.

I would almost say you have to pay people to watch computer chess games. Of course that may be different if it is your own engine that is playing.

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Re: What happened to TCEC?

Post by S.Taylor » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:09 pm

Nelson Hernandez wrote:AKA Cato the Younger here.

I dropped Anton an email a couple of months ago inquiring about his plans. He promptly responded and assured me that he intended for there to be a TCEC Season 10. However he was unspecific concerning timing. Apparently TCEC's sources of funding are insufficient to cover the capital and labor expenses the tournament generates and this poses a challenge.

The lack of official communication is, obviously, not encouraging and does not help the brand. I refer you to Martin Thoresen's cri de cœur. I share many of his laments. But of course if the season happens I will serve in my customary role.

My biggest problem right now is that I forgot my ChatWing password to my TCEC VIP nick. Yikes.
I was amazed at how much time you seemed to be spending every day moderating TCEC. If you and otherse were being paid for all that, then of course, that would rightly cost a lot!

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Re: What happend to TCEC?

Post by S.Taylor » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:10 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Kotlov wrote:CCRL, more than enough.

Graham Banks, thank you for your effort!
CCRL and CEGT do in fact tell us which engine is strongest.

But the ultimate chess on the ultimate hardware is another question.
If you want to see breathtaking moves that require absurd depths and nodecounts, then your choices are TCEC and correspondence chess.
+1

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Re: What happened to TCEC?

Post by mjlef » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:27 am

Nelson Hernandez wrote:AKA Cato the Younger here.

...

My biggest problem right now is that I forgot my ChatWing password to my TCEC VIP nick. Yikes.
There is this guy in Moscow by the name of, I think, V. Putin. He might be able to help!

Maybe Anton should setup a gofundme for TCEC. It could be a measure of how much entertainment people would get out of a new Season.

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