51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

[mehmet karaman]

The right link for the post of Mark Uniacke
http://www.hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic. ... ght=#75894

[Milos]

The Stockfish (28082015) benchmark of i7-6700k is 9726

The Stockfish (28082015) benchmark 2x Xeon E5-2695 v3 (28 core) is 33219

2x Xeon E5-2697 v3 is ~%15 faster than 2x Xeon E5-2695 v3
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... benchmarks

Adam Kostas has ES cpus which are more than 20% slower than real 2695v3 cpus (his 2695s run at 2.3GHz all cores turbo, real 2695s run at 2.8GHz all turbo, 2697s run 3.1GHz all turbo).
Proper dual E5-2697v3 SF bench would give way over 40knps.
In addition those benchmarks (28082015) are useless because at that time SF was not using LazySMP and didn't have NUMA support, which significantly reduced performance for multicore machines.
Next time inform yourself better.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Engin,

that's right, not thinking about it at first.

Nice to read you!

Regards
Frank

[BrendanJNorman]

Some ppl are here to enjoy computer chess, some other to earn money. The second kind I personally can't stand, while you obviously don't see the difference. It is understandable for ppl to pay for the best or even one of top 3 best chess programs. However, it is also natural that commercial chess engines that are much weaker struggle to sell their products and are trying in every way to advertise them. Commercial advertising is strictly forbidden by the charter of this forum. Then you have a grey zone when some ppl obviously with financial interest come and brag about their random and pretty unfair wins in some tournaments over top programs using this as obvious advertising strategy. The fact that you see this through the rose-coloured glasses doesn't make it less true.

This is a little confusing for me.

You personally can't stand people breaching the charters of the forum or making money?

For the former, there are mods for this and hence, no need to be furious about it (as a non-traffic cop shouldn't be furious about jaywalkers).

For the latter, why in this day and age do some people still have an issue with capitalism?

As a person who lives in China, I can attest that other forms of governance have devastated this country and they're only on the right track now after EMBRACING capitalism in 1989 (in their own indirect, face-saving way).

Somebody creates something that others perceive as valuable and exchange it for money? I don't see why this is such a big issue. Just choose not to buy and ignore it.

I also don't think people only want the strongest engines.

Didn't Topalov or somebody use Hiarcs to prepare for a World Championship match, despite that engines like Rybka were available?

Also myself for example, would be happy to pay for a new, stable Prodeo or Rodent or even a version of Thinker, MChess Pro or Socrates that is UCI and has Multi-PV analysis.

Why so salty about something on a chess forum that does nothing to hurt you? I don't get it.

P.S Hiarcs is a fantastic engine, and I've loved it ever since I was using Hiarcs 8 Bareev in 2001!

[tpoppins]

As a person who lives in China, I can attest that other forms of governance have devastated this country and they're only on the right track now after EMBRACING capitalism in 1989 (in their own indirect, face-saving way).

You are off by at least ten years - look up Deng Xiaoping. An odd mistake to make for someone who never seems to miss a chance to mention that he lives in China.

[BrendanJNorman]

As a person who lives in China, I can attest that other forms of governance have devastated this country and they're only on the right track now after EMBRACING capitalism in 1989 (in their own indirect, face-saving way).

You are off by at least ten years - look up Deng Xiaoping. An odd mistake to make for someone who never seems to miss a chance to mention that he lives in China.

Aren't you the snarky one. Must be a long-time TC member, huh?

With my comment, I was not talking about Deng Xiao Ping's economic reforms, his trips to the west of any of these changes he made prior to his retirement in 1989.

I was talking about when it actually started to MEAN something in China, i.e when several other socialist states imploded (yes...1989), the Chinese PEOPLE started to look differently (i.e more seriously) at capitalism as a system, and the Tiananmen Square "event" of the same year not only led hundreds of thousands to flee to the west (the Chinese people had thought capitalism automatically means democracy, but Deng corrected pointed out that the Chinese people are not ready for democracy), but those who stayed, yearned more seriously for western style governance.

What made you want to respond in a snarky way anyway? Got some grievance? Did I insult one of your boyfriends in the past?

[Harvey Williamson]

Didn't Topalov or somebody use Hiarcs to prepare for a World Championship match, despite that engines like Rybka were available?

It was Anand who used Hiarcs against Topalov who was aided by the Rybka cluster. Once again size does not matter,