Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
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Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
I have begun to look for a new system (>16 CPU) and figured the experts here would know or have an opinion. Just as a starting point, something like an Asus X99-M WS and Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 2.3GHz Eighteen Core 45MB 145W, there's likely better stuff out there though.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
If there is no budget restrictions, then why not go to an AMD EPYC system?
Having said that, if you value using several engines, then some will not scale so well with more threads, so maybe a system with less cores but more clock frequency may make sense.
So my suggestion is to wait a bit more and see.
Having said that, if you value using several engines, then some will not scale so well with more threads, so maybe a system with less cores but more clock frequency may make sense.
So my suggestion is to wait a bit more and see.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
Thanks. Perhaps the new AMD or Intel 10-cores might be better. I assume these programs still limit us to a single socket platform like the X99?
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
Detail what you'll do with the machine. If you'll analyize positions, which program will you use and how many positions will you be 'digging into' at at a given moment?ouachita wrote:I have begun to look for a new system (>16 CPU) and figured the experts here would know or have an opinion. Just as a starting point, something like an Asus X99-M WS and Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 2.3GHz Eighteen Core 45MB 145W, there's likely better stuff out there though.
I researched this a few months ago and the top machine was, and this was speculation only, an overclocked 6950. The proof would be a match between such a machine and a top of the line Xeon.
No one has organized such a match. It would require use of each machine for 12 hours. Easy to organize if nominal fees were paid to the machine owners.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
Why not rent a computer resources on the side?ouachita wrote:I have begun to look for a new system (>16 CPU) and figured the experts here would know or have an opinion. Just as a starting point, something like an Asus X99-M WS and Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 2.3GHz Eighteen Core 45MB 145W, there's likely better stuff out there though.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
Intel Flagship: Core i9-7980XE Extreme Edition 18 cores. Speed 4.5 GHz on i9.
AMD Flagship: Ryzen 9 Threadripper 1950X CPU 16 cores and 32 threads.
AMD Flagship: Ryzen 9 Threadripper 1950X CPU 16 cores and 32 threads.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
If by "these programs" you mean "cpus" I'm sure there will be both single and multi socket motherboards.ouachita wrote:Thanks. Perhaps the new AMD or Intel 10-cores might be better. I assume these programs still limit us to a single socket platform like the X99?
If you really mean "programs", I think stockfish is NUMA aware, but not many other engines will work well on NUMA systems.
I really think AMD threadripper will be a good option, but the new Intel i9s will be good too or better.
About AMD EPYC, please check the following link:
http://www.ipmanchess.yolasite.com/amd- ... -bench.php
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
86M NPS is not too shabby. Pay a pretty penny for it, though.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
You are definitely starting to look at the right time - two months after the i9's 7980xe's are out every single processor out there will be about 20-25% -lower (or more!) than where they are now and the top dog will be the 7980xeouachita wrote:I have begun to look for a new system (>16 CPU) and figured the experts here would know or have an opinion. Just as a starting point, something like an Asus X99-M WS and Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 2.3GHz Eighteen Core 45MB 145W, there's likely better stuff out there though.
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Re: Best Computer Chess System (no budget)
EPYC chips have more compute power than Threadripper. But they are really expensive.Leo wrote:Intel Flagship: Core i9-7980XE Extreme Edition 18 cores. Speed 4.5 GHz on i9.
AMD Flagship: Ryzen 9 Threadripper 1950X CPU 16 cores and 32 threads.
But if "no budget" means unlimited dollars, then one of the 2 x Epyc machines would probably offer the maximum horsepower.
A pair of Epyc 7601 will run $8000 just for the CPUs.
Configure away:
http://www.serversdirect.com/Servers/id ... 2023US-TR4
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