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MikeB
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find the winning move

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SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
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MikeGL
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Re: find the winning move

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MikeB wrote:SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
Strange position.
Critter1.6_32-bit sticks with Bh4 in less than 2 seconds, every time I clear the hash.
But it just gives 0.00 and all the other alternatives -0.43 and lower.
Critter finds Bh4 but won't consider it as win.
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Re: find the winning move

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Hi Mike!
MikeB wrote:SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
Was it built from Nikolic- Fischer 1968?

The winning move here is of the different colour's Bishop than Fischer won with then
:)
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Re: find the winning move

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Hi Mike!
MikeGL wrote:Critter finds Bh4 but won't consider it as win.
Try a recent Fish
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Re: find the winning move

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MikeB wrote:SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
P.S. komodo's fault isn't as bad neither maybe, cause its ...Qf5 yet could win too.

After this one (second best) move and some FW-BW,

44...Qf5 (?!):

2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/5q2/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Brainfish 061217 64 POPCNT:

45.Re1 Bd6 46.Qc2 Bxf4 47.Qf2 Bxg3+ 48.Kxg3 Qf3+ 49.Qxf3 gxf3 50.Rb2 Rg8+ 51.Kh2 Ra8 52.a4 Rxa4 53.Rc2 Ra3 54.Kg3 Kg7 55.Bb2 Rb3 56.Rg1 Kf7 57.Kf2 Rxb6 58.Rg4 Rb3 59.Rg5 Kf6 60.Rg1 Bc8 61.h4 Kf7 62.Ra1 Rb6 63.Ba3 Ra6 64.Rca2 Rg6 65.Rg1 Rxg1 66.Kxg1 Rxe3 67.Rc2 Rd3 68.Kf2 Kg6 69.Bc5 Kh5 70.Rc1 Kg4 71.Be3 Kxh4 72.Bh6 Kg4
-+ (-3.43) Depth: 33/56 00:00:47 1114MN, tb=62432

Yet after one ply more backward BF's evals rise with the best one over- 6 soon
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: find the winning move

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1/3rd of a second for Bh4.
If black does not force things, white has Rb5.

But only because I know there is winning move.
One of the most difficult things in chess is of purely psychological substance, to be able to adapt your expectations, having bearing on plans and candidate moves, as the game progresses, especially if there are sudden turnarounds.
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JVMerlino
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Re: find the winning move

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MikeB wrote:SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
Even Myrddin finds it in one second, so I'm not sure how hard it is. It doesn't see it as winning, though.

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 1     88      0           12 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 h2h3
 1     68      0           51 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 2     68      0          192 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 3     68      0          607 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 4     84      3        12234 g4h3? f4d3 (394 KNPS)
 4    100      3        21779 g4h3? f4d3 (702 KNPS)
 4     88      4        31053 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 h2h3 (660 KNPS)
 4     87      6        37578 d3e3 a4d7 c8b8 d7g4 e7a3 (606 KNPS)
 5    103      6        46495 d3e3? a4d7 (749 KNPS)
 5     84      7        56671 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d4 e5g7 d4g7 h8g7 h2h3 e7a3 (726 KNPS)
 6     84      9        76065 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d4 e5g7 d4g7 h8g7 h2h3 e7a3 (809 KNPS)
 7    100     12       123070 d3d1? a4d1 (984 KNPS)
 7    107     18       214716 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d7 c8b8 d7d4 e5d4 c3d4 (1148 KNPS)
 8    123     23       315633 d3d1? a4d1 (1348 KNPS)
 8    129     45       738332 d3d1 a4d1 c8g8 h3g4 e7a3 d1d4 e5d4 c3d4 g8g4 (1629 KNPS)
 9    138     68      1239843 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 a4d7 c8b8 d7h3 e5f6 d1d7 f6e5 (1804 KNPS)
 9    113    103      2034657 e7h4! f4d3 d3d1 b1d1 (1973 KNPS)
 9    103    114      2271920 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 d7b7 g3h3 h2g2 h3g3 g2h1 c8f8 g1g3 h4g3 (1991 KNPS)
10     87    137      2763930 e7h4! (2010 KNPS)
10     71    148      3035057 e7h4! (2045 KNPS)
10     59    167      3428446 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 c8f8 g3f4 f8f4 (2050 KNPS)
11     49    226      4712288 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 h2h1 c8g8 (2079 KNPS)
12     33    385      8095273 e7h4! (2097 KNPS)
12     17    457      9659327 e7h4! (2109 KNPS)
12     13    553     11717906 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 h2h1 e4e3 h1g1 e3e2 (2118 KNPS)
13     -3    810     17266773 e7h4! (2129 KNPS)
13    -10   1004     21379212 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 (2127 KNPS)
14      0   1434     30660399 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 d2d6 g2g3 d6d2 (2137 KNPS)
15    -16   2565     54509219 e7h4! (2124 KNPS)
15    -27   3287     69734299 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 a1b2 c8e8 (2121 KNPS)
16    -43   5615    116822033 e7h4! (2080 KNPS)
16    -11   6757    138533781 e7h4? d1g1 h4g3 (2049 KNPS)
16    -46  10771    213535874 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 b1d1 c8d8 a1b2 (1982 KNPS)
17    -49  14859    296910881 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7d4 h8g8 d4e3 f4g3 e3g3 h4g3 h2g3 g4h3 g3h3 c8d8 a1b2 e4e3 b1f1 (1998 KNPS)
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Re: find the winning move

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JVMerlino wrote:
MikeB wrote:SF finds it pretty fast K11.2.2. does not find it as fast..

[d]2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44
Even Myrddin finds it in one second, so I'm not sure how hard it is. It doesn't see it as winning, though.

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 1     88      0           12 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 h2h3
 1     68      0           51 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 2     68      0          192 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 3     68      0          607 g4h3 f4d3 e4d3 h2h3
 4     84      3        12234 g4h3? f4d3 (394 KNPS)
 4    100      3        21779 g4h3? f4d3 (702 KNPS)
 4     88      4        31053 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 h2h3 (660 KNPS)
 4     87      6        37578 d3e3 a4d7 c8b8 d7g4 e7a3 (606 KNPS)
 5    103      6        46495 d3e3? a4d7 (749 KNPS)
 5     84      7        56671 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d4 e5g7 d4g7 h8g7 h2h3 e7a3 (726 KNPS)
 6     84      9        76065 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d4 e5g7 d4g7 h8g7 h2h3 e7a3 (809 KNPS)
 7    100     12       123070 d3d1? a4d1 (984 KNPS)
 7    107     18       214716 d3d1 a4d1 g4h3 d1d7 c8b8 d7d4 e5d4 c3d4 (1148 KNPS)
 8    123     23       315633 d3d1? a4d1 (1348 KNPS)
 8    129     45       738332 d3d1 a4d1 c8g8 h3g4 e7a3 d1d4 e5d4 c3d4 g8g4 (1629 KNPS)
 9    138     68      1239843 d3d1 b1d1 g4h3 a4d7 c8b8 d7h3 e5f6 d1d7 f6e5 (1804 KNPS)
 9    113    103      2034657 e7h4! f4d3 d3d1 b1d1 (1973 KNPS)
 9    103    114      2271920 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 d7b7 g3h3 h2g2 h3g3 g2h1 c8f8 g1g3 h4g3 (1991 KNPS)
10     87    137      2763930 e7h4! (2010 KNPS)
10     71    148      3035057 e7h4! (2045 KNPS)
10     59    167      3428446 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 c8f8 g3f4 f8f4 (2050 KNPS)
11     49    226      4712288 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 h2h1 c8g8 (2079 KNPS)
12     33    385      8095273 e7h4! (2097 KNPS)
12     17    457      9659327 e7h4! (2109 KNPS)
12     13    553     11717906 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 h2h1 e4e3 h1g1 e3e2 (2118 KNPS)
13     -3    810     17266773 e7h4! (2129 KNPS)
13    -10   1004     21379212 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 (2127 KNPS)
14      0   1434     30660399 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 d2d6 g2g3 d6d2 (2137 KNPS)
15    -16   2565     54509219 e7h4! (2124 KNPS)
15    -27   3287     69734299 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 a1b2 c8e8 (2121 KNPS)
16    -43   5615    116822033 e7h4! (2080 KNPS)
16    -11   6757    138533781 e7h4? d1g1 h4g3 (2049 KNPS)
16    -46  10771    213535874 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7g4 h4g3 g4g3 f4d2 g3g2 e4e3 g2d2 e3d2 b1d1 c8d8 a1b2 (1982 KNPS)
17    -49  14859    296910881 e7h4 d1g1 d3e3 a4d7 e3g3 g1g3 e5f4 d7d4 h8g8 d4e3 f4g3 e3g3 h4g3 h2g3 g4h3 g3h3 c8d8 a1b2 e4e3 b1f1 (1998 KNPS)
It is winning alright:

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dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
 43	 -6.42 	5.00G	3:38.19	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Bc6 Bb2 Ba4 Rb1 d1=R Rxd1 Rxd1 b7 Rd8 Bc1 Bc6 Bg5 Rd3+ Kh2 Bxb7 Be7 Bc8 h4 Kg8 Bb4 Rh3+ Kg2 Rxh4 Kg3 Rh3+ Kg2 Rd3 Kh2 Bh3 Kg1 Bd7 Kh2 Kf7 Kg2 Bh3 
 42	 -6.28 	4.14G	3:02.03	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 a4 Rd8 Bb2 d1=Q Rxd1 Rxd1 Ba3 Ra1 Bd6 Rxa4 Kg3 Ra5 h4 Kg8 Bf4 Rb5 Be3 Rd5 Kf2 Rd3 Bd4 Rf3+ Ke1 Rh3 Kf2 Rxh4 Ke3 Rh3+ Kf4 Kf7 Kf5 Rh5+ Kf4 Rh4+ Ke3 Rh3+ Kf4 R 
 41	 -6.27 	3.72G	2:43.13	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Bb2 Rd8 a4 d1=Q Rxd1 Rxd1 Ba3 Ra1 Bd6 Rxa4 Kg3 Ra5 h4 Kg8 Bf4 Rb5 Be3 Rd5 Kf2 Rd3 Bd4 Rf3+ Ke1 Kf7 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc2 Rh3 Kb2 Rxh4 Kc1 Rh2 Bc5 Rh5 Bf2 Rh3 Kb2 Ke6  
 40	 -6.27 	3.30G	2:25.06	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Bc6 Bb2 Ba4 Rb1 d1=R Rxd1 Rxd1 b7 Rd8 Bc1 Bc6 Kf4 Bxb7 Be3 Kg8 h4 Rd5 Bb6 Rb5 Bf2 Rb3 Be1 Rxa3 Ke3 Kf7 Kd4 Ra1 Bf2 Ra2 Ke3 Bc6 Bg3 Rg2 Bf2 Bb7 Ke 
 39	 -6.27 	3.03G	2:13.00	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Bc6 Bb2 Ba4 Rb1 d1=R Rxd1 Rxd1 b7 Rd8 Bc1 Bc6 Kf4 Bxb7 Be3 Kg8 h4 Rd5 Bb6 Rb5 Bf2 Rb3 Be1 Rxa3 Ke3 Kf7 Kd4 Ra1 Bf2 Ra2 Ke3 Bc6 Bg3 Bd7 Kd4 Be6 Kc 
 39	 -6.07!	2.81G	2:03.00	Bh4! 
 39	 -5.73?	2.29G	1:41.10	Bh4 Rg1? 
 38	 -5.80 	2.05G	1:30.76	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 a4 Rd8 Bb2 d1=Q Rxd1 Rxd1 Ba3 Ra1 Bc5 Rxa4 Kg3 Kg8 Be3 Ra5 Kg4 Kf7 Bd4 Rd5 Kf4 Ke6 Ke3 Rf5 Bg7 Rf7 Bh8 Rf8 Bg7 Rg8 Bd4 Rg3+ Kd2 Rd3+ Kc1 Rxh3 Kb2 Rh4 Kc2 h5  
 38	 -5.55!	1.73G	1:17.18	Bh4! 
 38	 -4.90!	1.40G	1:03.17	Bh4! 
 38	 -4.39!	1.14G	0:51.79	Bh4! 
 38	 -4.00!	974.0M	0:44.45	Bh4! 
 37	 -3.61!	688.4M	0:31.33	Bh4! 
 36	 -3.25 	472.0M	0:21.42	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Kf7 Kf5 Ra3 Be5 Ra2 Bg3 Ra1 Bd6 Rf1+ Kg4 Rg1+ Kh4 Rd1 Bb4 
 35	 -3.23 	362.8M	0:16.56	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Kf7 Kf5 Ra3 Be5 Ra2 Bg3 Ra1 Bd6 Rd1 Be5 Rh1 Kg4 Kg6 Bd4 R 
 34	 -3.23!	289.4M	0:13.25	Bh4! 
 33	 -2.91 	211.8M	0:09.65	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Ra3 h4 Kf7 Kf5 Ra6 Bh8 Ra5+ Be5 Ra1 Kg4 Rd1 Kf5 Rd2 Bh8 R 
 32	 -2.91 	183.9M	0:08.47	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Ra3 h4 Kf7 Kg5 Ra6 Kf5 Ra2 Bh8 Ra5+ Be5 Ra1 Kg4 Rd1 Kf5 R 
 31	 -2.91 	157.4M	0:07.24	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Ra3 h4 Kf7 Kg5 Ra6 Kf5 Ra2 Bh8 Ra5+ Be5 Ra1 Kg4 Rd1 Kf5 R 
 30	 -2.84 	135.7M	0:06.25	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Ra3 h4 Kf7 Kh5 Ra6 Kg5 Rd6 Be5 Rd5 Kf5 Ra5 Ke4 Ra1 Kf5 Rd 
 29	 -2.84 	98.5M  	0:04.54	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 Kg4 Ra2 Bc5 Kf7 Bb4 Ra4 Bd6 Ra5 Bb4 Rd5 Kf3 Rb5 Kf4 Kg6 Ba3 
 28	 -2.67 	77.9M  	0:03.60	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Be3 Rb3 Bd4+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Kg4 Rxa4 Kf3 Kf7 Kg4 Ra2 Bc5 Rd2 Bb4 Rd5 Kf3 Rb5 Kf4 Kg6 Ba3 Rh5 Kg3  
 27	 -2.55 	57.6M  	0:02.70	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Bf6+ Kg8 a4 Ra3 Bd4 Rxa4 h4 Ra5 Kg4 Rd5 Kf4 Kf7 Ke4 Ra5 Kf3 
 26	 -2.21 	44.3M  	0:02.11	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Rb3 Ke4 Rxa3 Kd4 Ra4 h4 Kg7 Kc5 h6 Bf4 Ra6 Kb5 Rg6 h5 Rg4 
 25	 -1.69 	30.8M  	0:01.52	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bf4 Rb3 Ke4 Rxa3 Kd4 Kg7 h4 Ra4 Kc5 Ra5+ Kb4 Ra8 Bg5 Rc8 h5 Kf7 
 24	 -1.67 	27.9M  	0:01.38	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Rb1 Bg5 Kg7 Be7 Kg6 Kf4 Rf1+ Kg4 Rg1+ Kf4 Kh5 Bb4 Kh4 Ke4 Kxh3 Kd4 h5 Kxc4 h4 
 23	 -1.32 	18.9M  	0:00.96	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Kg3 Rf8 Rd1 Rf3+ Kg2 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Re6 Be3 Kg7 Bc5 Kg6 Kg4 Re4+ Kf3 Re1 Bb4 Kf5 a4 Rh1 Kg2 Ra1 
 22	 -1.24 	18.2M  	0:00.93	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd6 Bb2 Rxb6 Bc1 Re6 Be3 Kg7 Bc5 Kg6 a4 Ra6 Ke4 h6 Kd4 Rxa4 Bb4 Kf5 Kxc4 
 21	 -1.50 	14.3M  	0:00.74	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Kg3 Rd8 Rd1 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd1 a4 Rxa1 Ke3 Kg7 Kd4 Kf6 Kc5 Ra3 Kd5 Rxc3 a5 
 20	 -1.59 	12.7M  	0:00.66	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Kg3 Rf8 Rd1 Rf3+ Kg2 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd1 Bb2 Rb1 a4 Rxb2 a5 Kg7 
 19	 -1.33 	11.2M  	0:00.59	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Kg3 Rg8+ Kf2 Rf8+ Ke3 Rd8 Rd1 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd1 a4 Rxa1 Ke4 Rb1 a5 Rb5 Kd4 Rxa5 b7 Rb5 
 18	 -1.20 	10.7M  	0:00.56	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Kg3 Rf8 Rd1 Rf3+ Kg2 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd1 a4 Rxa1 Ke4 Kg7 
 17	 -1.03 	10.0M  	0:00.53	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Bf3 Rxd2 Rxd2+ Kxf3 Rd1 Ke3 Rb1 
 16	 -0.70 	6.77M  	0:00.36	Qf5 Re1 Rd2+ Kh1 gxh3 Rb2 Rd7 Kh2 Qg4 Qc2 Bxa3 Qe2 Qxe2+ Rbxe2 Rd6 Rb1 Bc5 Rb5 Kg8 Bb2 Rxb6 Rxb6 Bxb6 Kxh3 Ra8 
 15	 -0.56 	5.45M  	0:00.30	Qf5 Re1 Rd2+ Kh1 gxh3 Rb2 Rd7 Kh2 Qg4 Qc2 Bxa3 Qe2 Qxe2+ Rbxe2 Bc5 Rb1 Rd6 Kxh3 Rh6+ Kg2 
 14	 -0.14 	3.07M  	0:00.17	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd1 Rf3 Qd4 Qxd4 cxd4 Be7 d5+ c3 Rg2 Bxa3 hxg4 Bc5 Rc2 Bf2 Ne2 Bxd5 Bxc3+ Kg8 Rb5 
 13	 -0.21 	2.68M  	0:00.15	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd1 Rf3 Qd4 Qxd4 cxd4 Be7 Rgc1 Bxa3 Rc3 Bd6 hxg4 e3 Rc2 Bxf4 d5+ Kg8 gxf4 
 12	 -0.58 	1.45M  	0:00.08	Qf5 Rf1 Rd2+ Kh1 gxh3 Qb5 Bc5 Qxc4 Bxe3 Qe6 Qxe6 Nxe6 Kg8 c4 Bc5 
 11	 -0.14 	766867	0:00.04	Qf5 h4 Bd6 Bb2 Bxf4 exf4 Qc5 Qc2 Rf3 Rd2 Qxb6 Re2 
 10	 -0.06 	616464	0:00.04	Qf5 Bb2 gxh3 Ra1 Qg4 Qb5 Bc5 Rxd3 exd3 Qxc4 Qf3 Qb5 
  9	 -0.05 	357756	0:00.02	Qf5 h4 Bf6 h5 Be5 Rb5 Qd7 Nxd3 exd3 Qb4 
  8	+0.58 	94984  	0:00.01	Bc5 Qxc4 Rxd1 Rxd1 Bxe3 Qf1 Bxb6 hxg4 
  7	+0.30 	32092  	0:00.00	Bc5 Qa7 Qe7 hxg4 Rxe3 Nd5 Re2+ Kh3 
  6	 -0.07 	21296  	0:00.00	Bc5 Qa7 Qe7 hxg4 Rxe3 Rb5 
  5	+0.17 	16030  	0:00.00	Bc5 Qa7 Qe7 Nxd3 exd3 hxg4 
  4	 -1.20 	13115  	0:00.00	Qc5 Rb2 Qxe3 Nxd3 exd3 
  3	+0.81 	8013    	0:00.00	Bc5 Qxc4 Rxd1 
  2	 -2.16 	3618    	0:00.00	gxh3 Ne2 Rxe3 
  1	+0.66 	1421    	0:00.00	Rxe3 hxg4
I played Qf5 which will also win and I was able to win the game, but the game took longer

[pgn][Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date ""]
[Round "-"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "0-1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c3 c5 4. dxc5 e6 5. b4 a5 6. Qb3 b6 7. cxb6 Qxb6 8.
b5 a4 9. Qb2 Nbd7 10. e3 Be7 11. Be2 Bb7 12. O-O O-O 13. a3 Ne4 14. Nbd2
Nd6 15. Rd1 Qc7 16. Rb1 Bf6 17. Qa2 Nb6 18. Bb2 Rac8 19. Nd4 Rfd8 20. Ba1
Be7 21. h3 Qc5 22. Nc2 Ndc4 23. Nb4 Bd6 24. Nf3 Bb8 25. Bf1 e5 26. g3 f5
27. Bg2 Bd6 28. Nd2 Be7 29. Nxc4 Nxc4 30. Bf1 Kh8 31. Bg2 Kg8 32. Kh1 g6
33. Kh2 g5 34. b6 e4 35. Bf1 f4 36. Nc2 Rd6 37. Bxc4 dxc4 38. Nd4 Kh8 39.
Qb2 Qe5 40. Qb5 Rd5 41. Qxa4 fxg3+ 42. fxg3 g4 43. Ne2 Rd3 44. Nf4 Qf5 45.
Rb2 Bd6 46. Rf1 gxh3 47. Qb5 Rd2+ 48. Rxd2 Qxb5 49. Rxd6 Rg8 50. Re1 Qg5
51. Rg1 Qg4 52. Bb2 Qf3 53. Rd2 Qxe3 54. Bc1 Qf3 55. Ne6 h5 56. Nd4 Qxc3
57. Rc2 Qa5 58. Rf1 Qxb6 59. Be3 h4 60. Nf5 hxg3+ 61. Kxh3 Qc7 62. Kg2 Rg6
63. Nh4 Rg7 64. Nf5 Rh7 65. Nxg3 Rg7 66. Rf4 Rg6 67. Kf2 Qh7 68. Nf1 Qg7
69. Ke1 Qa1+ 70. Rc1 Qxa3 71. Rd1 Qa5+ 72. Kf2 c3 73. Rd7 Qa2+ 74. Ke1 Qb1+
75. Kf2 Qb2+ 76. Nd2 c2 77. Rf8+ Rg8 78. Rff7 Rg7 79. Rxg7 Qf6+ 80. Kg2
c1=Q 81. Rxb7 Qxg7+ 0-1[/pgn]
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Dicaste
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Re: find the winning move

Post by Dicaste »

It took 32 seconds for Alterego.

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FEN: 2r4k/1b2b2p/1P6/4q3/Q1p1pNp1/P1PrP1PP/7K/BR1R4 b - - 3 44

Alterego x64:
 8	00:00	 66k	846k	-0,55	gxh3 Qa7 Bc6 Nxh3 Rf8 b7 Qh5 b8Q Qe2+ Nf2 Qxf2+ Kh3
 8	00:00	 108k	862k	-0,91	Rcd8 hxg4 Qf6 Rxd3 exd3 Qa7 Qc6 e4 d2 Nd5
 9	00:00	 114k	811k	-1,01	Rcd8
 9	00:00	 118k	836k	-1,11	Rcd8
 9	00:00	 131k	843k	-1,31	Rcd8
 9	00:00	 141k	819k	-1,39	Rcd8 hxg4 Qf6 Rxd3 exd3 g5 Qe5 Qa7 Qe4 Rd1 d2
 10	00:00	 233k	830k	-1,49	Rcd8
 10	00:00	 254k	857k	-1,59	Rcd8
 10	00:00	 304k	846k	-1,79	Rcd8
 10	00:00	 378k	864k	-1,90	Rcd8 hxg4 Qf6 Rxd3 exd3 g5 Qxg5 Qa7 Rg8 Rg1 Qh6+ Nh3
 11	00:00	 532k	874k	-1,33	Rcd8 hxg4 Qf6 Rxd3 exd3 Qxc4 d2 Qc7 d1Q Rxd1 Rxd1 Qxb7 Rxa1
 12	00:00	 652k	888k	-1,43	Rcd8
 12	00:00	 694k	889k	-1,53	Rcd8
 12	00:00	 765k	906k	-1,73	Rcd8
 12	00:01	 1.008k	909k	-1,86	Rcd8 hxg4 Qc5 Kh3 Bd6 Qa7 Qxe3 Nh5 Rb8 a4 Qf3 Rxd3 cxd3
 13	00:01	 1.277k	908k	-1,43	Rcd8 hxg4 Qc5 Kh3 Bd6 Qa7 Qxe3 Nh5 Rd7 a4 Rf7 Rf1 Rd7
 14	00:01	 1.421k	910k	-1,53	Rcd8
 14	00:01	 1.481k	911k	-1,63	Rcd8
 14	00:01	 1.806k	911k	-1,36	Rcd8 hxg4 Qc5 Re1 Rd2+ Kg1 Ra2 Qa7 Qc6 Rb2 Rxa3 Ne6 Qxe6 Qxb7 Bf6
 15	00:02	 2.299k	914k	-1,46	Rcd8
 15	00:02	 2.342k	914k	-1,56	Rcd8
 15	00:02	 2.599k	909k	-1,30	Rcd8 hxg4 Qc5 Re1 Rd2+ Kg1 Ra2 Qa7 Qc6 Rb2 Rxa3 Ne6 Qxe6 Qxb7 Qe5 Rg2
 16	00:03	 3.474k	897k	-1,32	Rcd8 hxg4 Qc5 Re1 Rd2+ Kg1 Ra2 Qa7 Qc6 Rb2 Rxa3 Ne6 Qxe6 Qxb7 Qe5 Rf1 Qxg3+ Rg2 Qxe3+ Rgf2
 17	00:05	 4.888k	881k	-1,42	Rcd8
 17	00:06	 5.537k	877k	-1,52	Rcd8
 17	00:27	 21.906k	787k	-0,55	Rcd8 Rxd3 exd3 Qxc4 Qxe3 hxg4 Rd6 Qa2 Rh6+ Nh5 Re6 c4+ Kg8 Kh3 Qe2 Qxe2 dxe2 Re1 Bf3 Bd4 Re4 Nf6+ Bxf6 Bxf6 Rxc4
 17	00:32	 25.650k	778k	-1,77	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf4 Kg7 a4 Rf3+ Ke5
 18	00:40	 29.860k	741k	-1,53	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf4 Kg7 a4 Rf3+ Ke5 Rf2
 19	00:44	 32.662k	739k	-1,63	Bh4
 19	00:48	 35.913k	740k	-1,70	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Kg7 a4 Be4 a5 Rf3+ Ke2
 20	01:40	 70.345k	698k	-1,79	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qd4+ Kg8 Qe3 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Kg1 e3 Re1 Bf3 b7 Bxb7 Rxe3 h5 Re7 Bf3 hxg4 hxg4 a4 Qd1+ Qe1 Qxe1+ Rxe1
 21	02:13	 95.105k	711k	-1,88	Bh4 Rg1 Rxe3 Qd7 Rxg3 Rxg3 Qxf4 Qxg4 Bxg3+ Qxg3 Qd2+ Qg2 e3 Qxd2 exd2 Rd1 Rd8 Kg3 Rd3+ Kf2 Kg7 a4 Kf6 a5 Ke5 Bb2 Be4
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