Or, worse, there were repeats in the 28 wins. Even in the 10 games they showed some looked quite similar.acase wrote: I suspect they just cherry picked the 10 best games that their program played without showing the ones where it might have made some buffoonish moves.
In chess,AlphaZero outperformed Stockfish after just 4 hours
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A NN is filled with data driven by an algorithm with a goal, then when filled it is used by another algorithm to do the specific things the programmer had in mind.mjlef wrote: neural networks are like your brain.
We learn driven by intelligence, a NN is just stupid data -- without any intelligence -- the intelligence is of the programmer who created the data. No NN learns by intelligence.mjlef wrote:No one had to tell you piece square table values to play better chess. they learn from experience, finding and exploiting patterns in the data.
What facts?mjlef wrote:And why do polls on facts? Whether we believe or do not believe, a fact is a fact. If you feel google made it up, then ask for proof. Taking opinion polls on facts among people without the information to verify them or not is not getting us closer to truth. Maybe a poll about was the match fair?
It's a biased paper.
What people choose to believe aren't necessarily facts.
BTW, you are late moving in, maybe you can comment on some of my posts. And for the record - I am in follow_the_money_mode
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Perhaps 'intelligence' is just stupid data? But a lot of it?
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We had one of those. The membership was nearly equally divided, just as they are so far in this poll.mjlef wrote:Maybe a poll about was the match fair?
Deasil is the right way to go.
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Re: In chess,AlphaZero outperformed Stockfish after just 4 h
Werewolf wrote:Or, worse, there were repeats in the 28 wins. Even in the 10 games they showed some looked quite similar.acase wrote: I suspect they just cherry picked the 10 best games that their program played without showing the ones where it might have made some buffoonish moves.
Good point Carl, and one I didn't think about.