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Re: OpenTal is Like Cstal squared

Post by Michael Sherwin » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:28 pm

fern wrote:where I get last version of Romi? Pages I have seen are so old as 2013
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=40457
I hate if statements. Pawns demand if statements. Therefore I hate pawns.

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Re: OpenTal is Like Cstal squared

Post by fern » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:50 pm

gracias!!Thanks Merci grazie spaziba

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Re: OpenTal is Like Cstal squared

Post by fern » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:14 pm

send me you mail and i will send you a jewell at my cost...

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Re: The Sherwinator vs The Terminator

Post by BrendanJNorman » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:37 am

Michael Sherwin wrote:
fern wrote:I will.
Anything to kill opental regards
F
First try
No help
Mono e mono
Easy peasy oh so easy
Opental was like a little pussy cat :lol:
I saved Sarah Connor and now our child will save the world :D
Ok maybe I'm exaggerating a bit :oops:

4:50:29 left on my clock vs 1:30:01 for Opental

[pgn][Event "Skynet International"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.28"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mike Sherwin"]
[Black "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B05"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "15:56:18"]
[Variation "Modern, Main Line"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:40/7200:40/7200"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "180"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 dxe5 5. dxe5 Bg4 6. Be2 Nc6 7. O-O e6
8. Nbd2 Be7 9. b3 O-O 10. Bb2 Nf4 11. Nc4 Bh5 12. Re1 Bc5 13. Qxd8 Nxe2+
14. Kf1 Rfxd8 15. Kxe2 Ne7 16. Rad1 Nd5 17. a3 a5 18. Nd2 Bg6 19. Kf1 a4
20. b4 Nxb4 21. axb4 Bxb4 22. c3 a3 23. Ba1 Be7 24. Kg1 Rd3 25. Nf1 h5 26.
Rxd3 Bxd3 27. Rd1 Rd8 28. Ne1 Be4 29. Rxd8+ Bxd8 30. Nd2 Bh7 31. Nef3 h4
32. Kf1 Bd3+ 33. Ke1 b5 34. Kd1 h3 35. g3 Be7 36. Ne1 Bf5 37. Nb3 c5 38.
Nc2 Kh7 39. Ne3 Be4 40. Ke2 Kg8 41. f3 Bg6 42. Kd2 Kf8 43. Ng4 Bh5 44. Ke2
Bxg4 45. fxg4 Ke8 46. c4 b4 47. g5 g6 48. Kf3 Kd7 49. Kg4 Kc6 50. Kxh3 Bxg5
51. Kg4 Be7 52. h4 Kd7 53. Kf3 Kc7 54. Ke3 Kb6 55. Kd3 Kc6 56. Kc2 Kd7 57.
Nd2 Kc6 58. Kb3 Bf8 59. Ne4 Kd7 60. g4 Ke8 61. Nf6+ Kd8 62. h5 Bg7 63. Ne4
Bf8 64. h6 Bxh6 65. Nxc5 Be3 66. Kxb4 a2 67. Ne4 Kd7 68. Kb3 Kc6 69. Kxa2
Kd7 70. g5 Kc7 71. Bc3 Kc6 72. Kb3 Kd7 73. Kb4 Kc6 74. Ka5 Bf4 75. Bd4 Bc1
76. Ba7 Bf4 77. Bb8 Be3 78. Bd6 Bb6+ 79. Ka6 Be3 80. Be7 Bf4 81. Bf6 Bc1
82. Nd6 Kc5 83. Kb7 Bf4 84. Kc7 Kd4 85. Kb6 Be3 {Black resigns} 86. Kb5 Kd3
{Black resigns} 87. Nxf7 Ba7 {Black resigns} 88. Be7 Ke2 {Black resigns}
89. Bc5 Bb8 {Black resigns} 90. Bb6 Kd3 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

You played really well - well done! :wink:

My curiosity is killing me though...it seems you somehow, in your first attempt, got him to play a quiet form of Alekhine's Defense, instead of a sharp Sicilian which forms the large majority of his (Tal's) repertoire book.

How'd you get him to play Alekhine's? :shock:

And even better, an Alekhine's defense where the d-file opens up and a queen swap is basically inevitable - you lucky guy!

That's like getting me to play Scandinavian, I'd play like a moron in that opening (on either side) regardless of the objective merit of my position.

Also, what time control did you use? I wanna see if I can keep this guy under control under the same conditions :lol: :D

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Re: The Sherwinator vs The Terminator

Post by Michael Sherwin » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:54 am

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
fern wrote:I will.
Anything to kill opental regards
F
First try
No help
Mono e mono
Easy peasy oh so easy
Opental was like a little pussy cat :lol:
I saved Sarah Connor and now our child will save the world :D
Ok maybe I'm exaggerating a bit :oops:

4:50:29 left on my clock vs 1:30:01 for Opental

[pgn][Event "Skynet International"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.28"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mike Sherwin"]
[Black "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B05"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "15:56:18"]
[Variation "Modern, Main Line"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:40/7200:40/7200"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "180"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 dxe5 5. dxe5 Bg4 6. Be2 Nc6 7. O-O e6
8. Nbd2 Be7 9. b3 O-O 10. Bb2 Nf4 11. Nc4 Bh5 12. Re1 Bc5 13. Qxd8 Nxe2+
14. Kf1 Rfxd8 15. Kxe2 Ne7 16. Rad1 Nd5 17. a3 a5 18. Nd2 Bg6 19. Kf1 a4
20. b4 Nxb4 21. axb4 Bxb4 22. c3 a3 23. Ba1 Be7 24. Kg1 Rd3 25. Nf1 h5 26.
Rxd3 Bxd3 27. Rd1 Rd8 28. Ne1 Be4 29. Rxd8+ Bxd8 30. Nd2 Bh7 31. Nef3 h4
32. Kf1 Bd3+ 33. Ke1 b5 34. Kd1 h3 35. g3 Be7 36. Ne1 Bf5 37. Nb3 c5 38.
Nc2 Kh7 39. Ne3 Be4 40. Ke2 Kg8 41. f3 Bg6 42. Kd2 Kf8 43. Ng4 Bh5 44. Ke2
Bxg4 45. fxg4 Ke8 46. c4 b4 47. g5 g6 48. Kf3 Kd7 49. Kg4 Kc6 50. Kxh3 Bxg5
51. Kg4 Be7 52. h4 Kd7 53. Kf3 Kc7 54. Ke3 Kb6 55. Kd3 Kc6 56. Kc2 Kd7 57.
Nd2 Kc6 58. Kb3 Bf8 59. Ne4 Kd7 60. g4 Ke8 61. Nf6+ Kd8 62. h5 Bg7 63. Ne4
Bf8 64. h6 Bxh6 65. Nxc5 Be3 66. Kxb4 a2 67. Ne4 Kd7 68. Kb3 Kc6 69. Kxa2
Kd7 70. g5 Kc7 71. Bc3 Kc6 72. Kb3 Kd7 73. Kb4 Kc6 74. Ka5 Bf4 75. Bd4 Bc1
76. Ba7 Bf4 77. Bb8 Be3 78. Bd6 Bb6+ 79. Ka6 Be3 80. Be7 Bf4 81. Bf6 Bc1
82. Nd6 Kc5 83. Kb7 Bf4 84. Kc7 Kd4 85. Kb6 Be3 {Black resigns} 86. Kb5 Kd3
{Black resigns} 87. Nxf7 Ba7 {Black resigns} 88. Be7 Ke2 {Black resigns}
89. Bc5 Bb8 {Black resigns} 90. Bb6 Kd3 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

You played really well - well done! :wink:

My curiosity is killing me though...it seems you somehow, in your first attempt, got him to play a quiet form of Alekhine's Defense, instead of a sharp Sicilian which forms the large majority of his (Tal's) repertoire book.

How'd you get him to play Alekhine's? :shock:

And even better, an Alekhine's defense where the d-file opens up and a queen swap is basically inevitable - you lucky guy!

That's like getting me to play Scandinavian, I'd play like a moron in that opening (on either side) regardless of the objective merit of my position.

Also, what time control did you use? I wanna see if I can keep this guy under control under the same conditions :lol: :D
I don't know why he played the Alekhine but I admit that it was probably luck. :D The time control was 40 moves in 120 minutes repeating. I always play that time control when I play a strong engine incase I need to think.
I hate if statements. Pawns demand if statements. Therefore I hate pawns.

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Re: The Sherwinator vs The Terminator

Post by Michael Sherwin » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:01 am

Michael Sherwin wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
fern wrote:I will.
Anything to kill opental regards
F
First try
No help
Mono e mono
Easy peasy oh so easy
Opental was like a little pussy cat :lol:
I saved Sarah Connor and now our child will save the world :D
Ok maybe I'm exaggerating a bit :oops:

4:50:29 left on my clock vs 1:30:01 for Opental

[pgn][Event "Skynet International"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.28"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mike Sherwin"]
[Black "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B05"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "15:56:18"]
[Variation "Modern, Main Line"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:40/7200:40/7200"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "180"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 dxe5 5. dxe5 Bg4 6. Be2 Nc6 7. O-O e6
8. Nbd2 Be7 9. b3 O-O 10. Bb2 Nf4 11. Nc4 Bh5 12. Re1 Bc5 13. Qxd8 Nxe2+
14. Kf1 Rfxd8 15. Kxe2 Ne7 16. Rad1 Nd5 17. a3 a5 18. Nd2 Bg6 19. Kf1 a4
20. b4 Nxb4 21. axb4 Bxb4 22. c3 a3 23. Ba1 Be7 24. Kg1 Rd3 25. Nf1 h5 26.
Rxd3 Bxd3 27. Rd1 Rd8 28. Ne1 Be4 29. Rxd8+ Bxd8 30. Nd2 Bh7 31. Nef3 h4
32. Kf1 Bd3+ 33. Ke1 b5 34. Kd1 h3 35. g3 Be7 36. Ne1 Bf5 37. Nb3 c5 38.
Nc2 Kh7 39. Ne3 Be4 40. Ke2 Kg8 41. f3 Bg6 42. Kd2 Kf8 43. Ng4 Bh5 44. Ke2
Bxg4 45. fxg4 Ke8 46. c4 b4 47. g5 g6 48. Kf3 Kd7 49. Kg4 Kc6 50. Kxh3 Bxg5
51. Kg4 Be7 52. h4 Kd7 53. Kf3 Kc7 54. Ke3 Kb6 55. Kd3 Kc6 56. Kc2 Kd7 57.
Nd2 Kc6 58. Kb3 Bf8 59. Ne4 Kd7 60. g4 Ke8 61. Nf6+ Kd8 62. h5 Bg7 63. Ne4
Bf8 64. h6 Bxh6 65. Nxc5 Be3 66. Kxb4 a2 67. Ne4 Kd7 68. Kb3 Kc6 69. Kxa2
Kd7 70. g5 Kc7 71. Bc3 Kc6 72. Kb3 Kd7 73. Kb4 Kc6 74. Ka5 Bf4 75. Bd4 Bc1
76. Ba7 Bf4 77. Bb8 Be3 78. Bd6 Bb6+ 79. Ka6 Be3 80. Be7 Bf4 81. Bf6 Bc1
82. Nd6 Kc5 83. Kb7 Bf4 84. Kc7 Kd4 85. Kb6 Be3 {Black resigns} 86. Kb5 Kd3
{Black resigns} 87. Nxf7 Ba7 {Black resigns} 88. Be7 Ke2 {Black resigns}
89. Bc5 Bb8 {Black resigns} 90. Bb6 Kd3 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]

You played really well - well done! :wink:

My curiosity is killing me though...it seems you somehow, in your first attempt, got him to play a quiet form of Alekhine's Defense, instead of a sharp Sicilian which forms the large majority of his (Tal's) repertoire book.

How'd you get him to play Alekhine's? :shock:

And even better, an Alekhine's defense where the d-file opens up and a queen swap is basically inevitable - you lucky guy!

That's like getting me to play Scandinavian, I'd play like a moron in that opening (on either side) regardless of the objective merit of my position.

Also, what time control did you use? I wanna see if I can keep this guy under control under the same conditions :lol: :D
I don't know why he played the Alekhine but I admit that it was probably luck. :D The time control was 40 moves in 120 minutes repeating. I always play that time control when I play a strong engine incase I need to think.
I checked the tournament that the two Romi's and Opental are playing for some Alekhine defenses. Here is the first Alekhine. Romi actually won the first encounter.

[pgn][Event "FischerVsKarpov"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.28"]
[Round "15"]
[White "RomiChess64P3n2"]
[Black "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B04"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "15:20:14"]
[Variation "Modern, Larsen, 5.Nxe5 g6"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "40/120:40/120:40/120"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "120"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. c4 Nb6 5. Nf3 dxe5 6. Nxe5 c5 7. Qf3 f6 8.
Qh5+ g6 9. Nxg6 hxg6 10. Qxh8 Qxd4 11. Nc3 f5 12. Qxd4 cxd4 13. Nb5 Na6 14.
Bg5 e5 15. O-O-O Nc5 16. Nc7+ Kf7 17. Nxa8 Nxa8 18. Bd2 Ne4 19. Be1 Nb6 20.
f3 Nf6 21. Bg3 f4 22. Be1 Be6 23. b3 Nbd7 24. Kb2 b6 25. b4 a5 26. bxa5
bxa5 27. Bxa5 Be7 28. a3 Nc5 29. Bb4 Nfd7 30. Bxc5 Nxc5 31. Kc1 Bh4 32. Kc2
Bd7 33. Bd3 Bf2 34. Rb1 Be3 35. Rb5 Nxd3 36. Kxd3 Bf5+ 37. Ke2 d3+ 38. Ke1
Be6 39. Rb4 e4 40. fxe4 Kf6 41. c5 Ke5 42. c6 Kd6 43. Rb5 Kxc6 44. a4 g5
45. h3 Kd6 46. h4 d2+ 47. Kd1 g4 48. h5 f3 49. gxf3 g3 50. Ke2 g2 51. Rd1
Bf4 52. Kf2 g1=Q+ 53. Rxg1 Kc6 54. Rd1 Bf7 55. Rb2 Kc5 56. Rdxd2 Bb3 57. a5
Bc4 58. Rdc2 Be5 59. a6 Bxb2 60. Rxb2 Bxa6 {Arena Adjudication} 1-0[/pgn]

Romi lost some other Alekhine defenses. And here Romi played the Alekhine by transposition.
[pgn][Event "FischerVsKarpov"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.29"]
[Round "65"]
[White "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Black "RomiChess64P3n1"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B04"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "03:16:08"]
[Variation "Modern, Larsen, 5.Nxe5 g6 6.Bc4 c6 7.O-O"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "40/120:40/120:40/120"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 g6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Qe2 Bg7 5. e5 dxe5 6. dxe5 Nd5 7. Nf3 c6 8.
O-O Bg4 9. Nbd2 Nd7 10. h3 Be6 11. Nb3 Qc7 12. Re1 N7b6 13. Bd3 Nb4 14. Nc5
Bxa2 15. Rxa2 Nxa2 16. Bd2 Nd5 17. e6 f5 18. Bc4 Nab4 19. c3 Na6 20. Bxa6
bxa6 21. Nd7 Qb7 22. c4 Nc7 23. Bf4 O-O-O 24. Rd1 Qxb2 25. Qe3 Qb7 26. Kh2
a5 27. Nc5 Qb6 28. Rd7 Ne8 29. Ne5 Nd6 30. Rxe7 Bf6 31. Rd7 g5 32. Nf7 Nxf7
33. Bc7 Qb4 34. Rxf7 Bd4 35. Qxg5 Qxc5 36. Qf4 Rhe8 37. g3 Be3 38. Qxe3
Qxe3 39. fxe3 Rd2+ 40. Kg1 Rxe6 41. Bxa5 Ra2 42. Bb4 Rxe3 43. Rf8+ Kb7 44.
Rf7+ Kb6 45. Rxf5 Rxg3+ 46. Kf1 Rxh3 47. Bc5+ Ka6 48. Rf2 Rxf2+ 49. Kxf2
Rc3 50. Bd6 Rxc4 51. Bb8 Kb6 52. Ke3 a5 53. Bd6 Kb5 54. Be7 a4 55. Kd3 c5
56. Bf6 a3 57. Kd2 h5 58. Ke3 Rd4 {Arena Adjudication} 0-1[/pgn]

And here is an Alekhine that Opental won.

[pgn][Event "FischerVsKarpov"]
[Site "MASTER"]
[Date "2017.12.29"]
[Round "114"]
[White "RomiChess64P3n1"]
[Black "Opental_x64popcnt"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B04"]
[Opening "Alekhine"]
[Time "17:03:47"]
[Variation "Modern, Larsen, 5.Nxe5 g6 6.Bc4 c6 7.O-O"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "40/120:40/120:40/120"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "93"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 dxe5 5. Nxe5 g6 6. c4 Nb6 7. c5 N6d7 8.
Nf3 Bg7 9. Nc3 O-O 10. Bc4 a5 11. Bf4 a4 12. Nxa4 e5 13. dxe5 Nc6 14. e6
fxe6 15. Bg5 Qe8 16. O-O Rxf3 17. gxf3 Nde5 18. Be2 Nd4 19. Nc3 Nec6 20.
Be3 e5 21. Bc4+ Be6 22. Qd3 Nb4 23. Bxe6+ Qxe6 24. Qe4 Qh3 25. Bxd4 exd4
26. Qxb7 Rd8 27. Ne4 Nd5 28. Qb3 Be5 29. Ng3 Kg7 30. Kh1 Nf4 31. Rg1 d3 32.
Qc4 Rd4 33. Qb5 Kh6 34. Rae1 d2 35. Rd1 Nd3 36. Rg2 c6 37. Qb3 Rd5 38. Nf1
Bf4 39. Ne3 Bxe3 40. fxe3 Qxf3 41. Rxd2 Rxc5 42. h4 Qh3+ 43. Kg1 Qxe3+ 44.
Kh2 Rh5 45. Rxg6+ hxg6 46. Qxd3 Rxh4+ 47. Kg2 {White resigns} 0-1 [/pgn]

Opental does not seem to play as strong when playing the Alekhine. I can send you the learn file and the pgn when all 3000 games are finished if you like. And oh yeah thanks for the compliments on my game above.

:D
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