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Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:44 pm

There has been a boatload of highly beneficial patches in the last few days.

I expect that the new version will flex its muscles in the TCEC superfinal.
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Jouni » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:57 pm

NCM testing still shows +3 after SF9 - nothing spectacular so far :lol: .
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:07 am

Jouni wrote:NCM testing still shows +3 after SF9 - nothing spectacular so far :lol: .
Pohl already shows +8 from the February 9th version, and I expect more when he tests the latest version.

I am also not nearly so interested in an Elo gain as I am in a long term analysis gain. My gedankenexperiment about the current changes tells me that they are very good.
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Eelco de Groot » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:13 am

I find Komodo is also doing well in Clemens' 'Quo vadis' many threads tournament. It is also past Houdini at least in current standings which is a good thing even if you're Houdini fan :) Spurs on Houdart.
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Jouni » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:51 am

New maintainer Stephane Nicolet seems to work fulltime! Previously MC and JK usually only weekends. Now framework says:

ELO: 7.14 +-2.0 (95%) LOS: 100.0%

with this rate it's +80 in year :o
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Mike S. » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:51 am

I find Komodo is also doing well in Clemens' 'Quo vadis' many threads tournament.
Yes, but that is version 2016 and I wonder how big the difference to 2012 (at TCEC) is.

Except being four years :mrgreen:
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Ozymandias » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:56 am

Mike S. wrote:
I find Komodo is also doing well in Clemens' 'Quo vadis' many threads tournament.
Yes, but that is version 2016 and I wonder how big the difference to 2012 (at TCEC) is.

Except being four years :mrgreen:
Komodo 2016.00 64-bit t15 is the latest development version.

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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by pohl4711 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:38 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Jouni wrote:NCM testing still shows +3 after SF9 - nothing spectacular so far :lol: .
Pohl already shows +8 from the February 9th version, and I expect more when he tests the latest version.
Here my timeline for next weeks:

At the moment, the test of BrainFish 180227 is running (with Cerebellum_Light Release 167). After 800 of 5000 games, the score is incredible high...but we dont know, if the latest patches are that strong, or the Cerebellum-Library was so much improved on the HERT-openings (or perhaps both?!). The testrun should end next Wednesday. Then the testrun of latest Stockfish will start. And it should end in middle of March.
If all works correctly...

Stay tuned!

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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Norm Pollock » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:34 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:There has been a boatload of highly beneficial patches in the last few days.

I expect that the new version will flex its muscles in the TCEC superfinal.
I think the catalyst for this is the TCEC tournament. It brings out the faults, so authors have something to go after.
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Re: Someone lit a fire under the Stockfish team

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:57 pm

Eelco de Groot wrote:I find Komodo is also doing well in Clemens' 'Quo vadis' many threads tournament. It is also past Houdini at least in current standings which is a good thing even if you're Houdini fan :) Spurs on Houdart.
In TCEC, the old Houdini is performing better than Komodo(2012), and SF and H will most likely be in the final. However, I think no more update for Houdini and SF would be unstoppable.

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