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Werewolf
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by Werewolf » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:33 pm

duncan wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:18 am
duncan wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 pm
so elo 2552 on april 14th

now april 26 it is elo 2803. so a 251 elo gain in 12 days and 21 points a day gain. (including regression). To catch stockfish at 3563, another 760 points needed which should take about 5 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of June. just maybe.
3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.

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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by duncan » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:35 pm

Werewolf wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:33 pm
duncan wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:18 am
duncan wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:57 pm

so elo 2552 on april 14th

now april 26 it is elo 2803. so a 251 elo gain in 12 days and 21 points a day gain. (including regression). To catch stockfish at 3563, another 760 points needed which should take about 5 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of June. just maybe.
3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.
9 points a day is stalling. when has an alpha-beta program ever done that for even a week?

Werewolf
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by Werewolf » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:52 am

duncan wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:35 pm
Werewolf wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:33 pm
duncan wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:18 am


3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.
9 points a day is stalling. when has an alpha-beta program ever done that for even a week?
9 elo a day is incredible, granted. But I suppose the issue is whether it continues or if there is a trend towards no improvement.

yanquis1972
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by yanquis1972 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 am

why is that an issue if the trend projects to a 3600 elo engine within, say, a year?

Milton
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by Milton » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:43 pm

For the purposes of not starting another LCzero thread, I am posing my question here.

Can someone explain to me why LCzero refuses to use its time resource? I am using the GPU version of Leela. I have a Nvidea 1080 video card. I am using the Fritz 16 GUI. No matter how much time I allow LCzero in the GUI, Leela moves instantly, essentially playing bullet chess. Is there a setting I can change in the engine parameters which will cause it think longer? Thanks.

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