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LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:12 pm
by Leo
LCZero Elo poll.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:40 pm
by Werewolf
I think it would be more interesting to speculate if it will go over 3000 Elo. That’s where it will bite in my opinion
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:45 pm
by pferd
What are the comparables here? 3000 Elo corresponds to which engine on which rating list?
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:48 pm
by Dann Corbit
You need a reference.
Compared to random moves, the Elo is already 4230.
Hence, I assume you mean CCRL Elo or CEGT Elo or something along those lines.
Elo itself is a meaningless number. It is only in relationship to a pool of opponents that it has meaning.
Against a pool of random movers, the Elo is 4230. That is all we know right now.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:38 pm
by Leo
Compared to the top three engines.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:40 pm
by Leo
I want to play a random moving chess engine and take the results and make that my new Elo rating.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:49 pm
by Michel
Dann Corbit wrote:You need a reference.
Compared to random moves, the Elo is already 4230.
This is probably not true. The method by which this number is obtained is statistically flawed. But since it is a proxy for the true elo difference this is acceptable.
Some people are maintaining their own rating lists.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:45 am
by lucasart
For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:58 am
by CheckersGuy
lucasart wrote:For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Lc0 is beating TSCP now so I would say it's clearly above 1500
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:31 am
by lucasart
CheckersGuy wrote:lucasart wrote:For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Lc0 is beating TSCP now so I would say it's clearly above 1500
No it doesnt.
See here:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66945
It gets smashed by Zurichess rated 1800...
Even I can still beat LC0 (though I do lose more games than I win I must admit).