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Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:32 am
by Dann Corbit
lucasart wrote:CheckersGuy wrote:lucasart wrote:For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Lc0 is beating TSCP now so I would say it's clearly above 1500
No it doesnt.
See here:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66945
It gets smashed by Zurichess rated 1800...
Even I can still beat LC0 (though I do lose more games than I win I must admit).
This must be wrong then:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
They calculate 1806 Elo relative to stockfish variants of known strength.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:37 am
by CheckersGuy
lucasart wrote:CheckersGuy wrote:lucasart wrote:For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Lc0 is beating TSCP now so I would say it's clearly above 1500
No it doesnt.
See here:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66945
It gets smashed by Zurichess rated 1800...
Even I can still beat LC0 (though I do lose more games than I win I must admit).
Which version did you use ? The new v4 client with the latest net ?
The post is from the 28.3 which still used the old client. There was a major bug that was now fixed.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:40 am
by MonteCarlo
As Kai pointed out later in that post, his GPU is getting very, very low rollouts per second. The CPU version of Leela was much faster on his machine, and only performed about -119 rating to Zurichess.
Also, that was with network id 44, which is already substantially weaker than the strongest current one
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:44 am
by CheckersGuy
The new net + the new client was about 300 selfplay elo stronger than id 44. Since some ppl were still using the v3 and not the v4 client the elo graph is completly messed up and the elo difference of 55 vs 44. is much lower in the graph.
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:35 am
by MikeB
The second choice was a little too wide of a range ...400 points would have been a nice interval because a 400 point difference is significant...
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:42 am
by elpapa
Dann Corbit wrote:Against a pool of random movers
A pool of them? What possible difference could there be between one random mover and another?
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:43 am
by BrendanJNorman
elpapa wrote:Dann Corbit wrote:Against a pool of random movers
A pool of them? What possible difference could there be between one random mover and another?
Names
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:51 am
by CMCanavessi
lucasart wrote:For the moment, it's only ~1500 elo CCRL, and progress is starting to stall.
On the other hand, 12 months is a long time, and immense amount of resources are thrown at it. So perhaps 2000 is possible. But 3400, definitely not...
Stall?
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# PLAYER : RATING PLAYED W D L (%) D(%) OppAvg OppN OppDiv
184 Leela Chess Zero Gen 33 (ID 55) x64 : 1632.2 139 92 9 38 69 6 1441.8 25 24.9
200 Leela Chess Zero Gen 30 (ID 44) x64 : 1506.3 200 106 22 72 59 11 1427.0 25 25.0
208 Leela Chess Zero Gen 24 x64 : 1401.3 200 84 22 94 48 11 1427.0 25 25.0
213 Leela Chess Zero Gen 20 x64 : 1317.8 200 64 27 109 39 14 1427.0 25 25.0
226 Leela Chess Zero Gen 16 x64 : 1229.3 200 47 26 127 30 13 1427.0 25 25.0
228 Leela Chess Zero Gen 14 x64 : 1185.3 200 42 20 138 26 10 1427.0 25 25.0
232 Leela Chess Zero Gen 12 x64 : 1094.2 250 64 26 160 31 10 1278.6 49 40.8
244 Leela Chess Zero Gen 10 x64 : 860.1 92 53 11 28 64 12 654.5 23 23.0
247 Leela Chess Zero Gen 8 x64 : 791.6 92 45 17 30 58 18 654.5 23 23.0
252 Leela Chess Zero Gen 6 x64 : 597.4 92 31 18 43 43 20 654.5 23 23.0
256 Leela Chess Zero Gen 4 x64 : 369.0 150 43 18 89 35 12 623.1 15 15.0
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:42 am
by Werewolf
Carlos your progress is remarkable, keep going
Re: LCZero Elo
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:58 am
by lucasart
CheckersGuy wrote:The new net + the new client was about 300 selfplay elo stronger than id 44. Since some ppl were still using the v3 and not the v4 client the elo graph is completly messed up and the elo difference of 55 vs 44. is much lower in the graph.
What does the client version have to do with ELO ?